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made national news for weeks, but the fact remains that I've done a lot of searches in lots of date ranges, and there just aren't any negative comments about the article that I can find. Even the Netflix show received as close to universal acclaim as TV shows ever get, and it would be cherry-picking
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No, the way conservative media respond to cases like this are by ignoring their existence. I checked Breitbart for a laugh and even its coverage of the Netflix show is one brief unopinionated description. I have a lot of my own opinions about the indignity of how liberal and conservative media alike
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Yeah, okay. I was thinking it would be the other way around, that knowing the situation would then establish more meaning to e.g. the parts about interviewing Marie, but looking again I think it's fine either way. I've switched the order because my preference on this wasn't strong; if there's
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Only forces mentioned by name are the Lynnwood Police Department and Westminster Police Department—not quite sure how the U.S. works but there's no precinct numbers or other names described for them. I can put these in if you want but I thought they were a bit redundant to the mention of the
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we solicited the input of women, those who were familiar with the story and those without any inkling of it. With only one exception, the women voted for the more detailed account. Our brilliant copy editor, a woman who had edited other stories about rape, cinched it for us
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I think it's not an unreasonable guess that some conservative media were less keen on this article than the ones you've cited. I admittedly could not find any, but you know the source material better than I do; are there no bad reviews worth giving weight to?
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Everything looks good, passing this shortly. One suggestion, which I'm not going to hold this up over; if the book based on this article is not independently notable, then a decent case could be made for a NFUR for its cover as an illustration here, I think.
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Ah, interesting point. I think the book might be independently notable and suitably distinct to warrant a standalone article, but I'll bear this in mind if it turns out that it isn't. Thanks for the review—the comments were very useful! —
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Ah, because it's a mistake. The article and sources about it use "Marie" only as the pseudonym. "Adler" was the invention of the TV program, which needed a surname for its main character. Changed to:
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You're not consistent in whether a comma is used after "City, State". I find using a comma more natural, but if it's a stylistic thing, should it not be consistent? Or is the variation deliberate?
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I can see why you don't want to repeat "States" in the first sentence of the article, but I don't think an abbreviation is good style in the first sentence either; can you rephrase?
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I would find the section title "summary" somewhat more intuitive than "article content"; somehow with the latter I expect analysis, rather than summary, but maybe that's just me...
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I would strongly prefer the background section be moved to before "article contents". It does a lot with respect to establishing context that helps understand the contents.
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Apologies for taking a while. I'm mostly done, though I'll try to do some spotchecks tomorrow; I would expect to pass this after the few comments have been addressed.
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An external report by Sergeant Gregg Rinta, who worked for the Snohomish County Sheriff's Office as a sex crimes supervisor, condemned ...
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the team ensured that they consulted various women, some with knowledge of the case and some without, particularly in regards to
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I think it would be helpful to state what police forces the various policepeople belonged to, if that information is available.
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I'd switch paragraphs three and four of "research and writing"; that seems both chronologically and thematically smoother.
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Alright, I've replied to some of these points and quietly addressed the rest of them. Thanks for the comments so far. —
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Removed: I think I found this early when looking for secondary response to the article, but later found better stuff.
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Now moved, but I think you're right that it sort of implies a lack of connection to the case: changed to
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Apologies for taking a while to get to this...feel free to revert and discuss any copy edits I make.
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I'm not sure I like the use of the Fast Company source, given that it's a single-sentence review
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neglected almost all mention of this story prior to the Netflix series, when aspersions cast on
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Other women, including Danis and a copy editor and various others with unspecified credentials:
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A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
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anything in "Background" which you think now needs to be introduced better then let me know.
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Given the topic, I don't think I'm going to hold this up over images, but see comment below
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but let me know if you think that implies Marie is a real name rather than a pseudonym.
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It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
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Might I offer "related media" as a section title in place of "subsequent media"?
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The variation is a mistake. They should now consistently have a comma afterwards.
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A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
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The abbreviation "FBI" is linked and defined much after it's first used.
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The perpetrator of the serial rapes, Marc O'Leary, was also interviewed.
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It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing
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The surname "Adler" is only used in the very last section; why?
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to mention one of the very, very few overall negative reviews.
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registered to army veteran Marc Patrick O'Leary, who lived in
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Earwig's tool highlights quotes; spotchecks are clear
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