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1193:: 1. “However, this is rarely taken as a literal definition: many modern-day Jungian practitioners believe that every person has both an anima and an animus;” and, 2. “Jung stated that the anima and animus act as guides to the unconscious unified Self, and that forming an awareness and a connection with the anima or animus is one of the most difficult and rewarding steps in psychological growth. Jung reported that he identified his anima as she spoke to him, as an inner voice, unexpectedly one day.” These sentences were exact copies of the information in this citation I added. It would be helpful if editors can also verify the content if they have access to sources and paraphrase accordingly if similar incidents occur. Thanks. 276:: I don't have the technical expertise to address this substantively, but my understanding of academics generally is that in any field finer and finer distinctions are made: natural philosophy yields biology yields botany yields mycology, etc. As the field extends beyond Jung, the phrase "Jungian psychology" will become more and more historically specific, and suspect that the Jungian article should stay focussed on Jung and that this article should develop sub-sections as distinctions and schools within the discipline warrant it. 31: 498:...can someone explain and expand the relationship between Freud and Jung more in detail? I'm still trying to figure out what they differ on, and this article hasn't really helped. How is analytical psychology different from Freudian psychology? Or is that section dealt with in some other article like 1169:
This article has a few pretty long quotes that I feel should be explained more and also from what I understand Knowledge is a place that is more about describing the work rather than posting quotes from the author. There are also many points through the article that other have added a citation needed
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really surprised to find all this matter about Jung and his psychology without even a brief reference to the fact that most clinical psychologists today consider the man to have been a mystical nutter and his school of thought completely pseudoscientific. Jungianism is an occult movement, not part of
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I would like to create an article on depth psychology, but Knowledge already has in place a redirect straight into Analytical Psychology, with an incorrect statement that depth psychology is another term for AP. I hold a PhD in depth psych, and AP is really only one branch of it. I will correct the
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I don't know if it's just me, but I've read the article and it seems there is a bias toward Jung in this article? Especially the criticism bit. It lacks mention of the lack of empirical evidence for Jungian Psychology despite it being so old. I'll admit that I'm not an experienced editor, but the
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As a specific request, would someone mind rewriting the introductory paragraph? It seems rather awkward. The paragraph starts with a sentence about the creator, then his followers, moves on to what Analytical psychology is NOT, and concludes with a more complex than necessary set of sentences.
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This article needs a lot of work. An extensive rewrite for a more encyclopedic style, organization and elaboration. I'm willing to contribute. I have tagged the article as I thought the overall quality was quite poor. I think that the only way we could do this is by including only referenced
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Is it the role of an encyclopedia to push a pure positives paradigm of the social sciences? I would imagine that pointing out his ontological, epistemological and methodological assumptions would be the most encyclopedic and NPOV manner in which to handle questions of difference in theory.
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The following sentence in the article's "Shadow" section 1) inaccurately characterizes what the source says and 2) is not a complete sentence. I don't have time right now to fix this sentence, so this is a placemarker for later work. Anyone else feel free to fix this sentence. Thanks.
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I realize that this is an article about a specialty within a field and that it can't be expected to be all at the layman's level. However, even having read quite a bit about psychology the lead is nearly meaningless even after reading the leads of the articles it is linked to.
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Having begun drawing on the French wikipedia article (deemed "article de qualité") on this topic, I intend to continue, as time allows, inserting English language sources as appropriate. This should not prevent other bilingual editors from joining
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article, the archetype is an "ancient or archaic images that derive from the collective unconscious". As far as I know, only collective aspects of unconscious can be refered as archetypes. If it is individual, it is not an archetype by definition.
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The shadow may also concern great figures in the history of human thought or even spiritual masters, who became great just because their shadows or their possibility of living shadows, namely, their unconscious faults, in full, without repressing
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talk page in response to the Carl Jung/Jungian Psych merge suggestion. it seems like a more appropriate suggestion to merge analytical and jungian psych, so i thought i'd see where the discussion went on this idea. i will also post this on the
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A man who acts aggressively and never cries still acts irrationaly, thus he has an Anima, but of course, wouldn't be in contact with it. If he wasn't in contact wih the Anima, wouldn't that state he'd be rational and responsible all the time?
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is a good example of this where diverse articles were created and then had to be united after the fact. In general, I suspect the time to split is when the table of contents exceeds a dozen items or the text is 20K or larger. -
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Is it appropriate to have a photo of a couch (just below the portrait of Jung) in this article, when Jung (unlike Freud) preferred to have people sit on chairs so that he could talk to them face-to-face?
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While trying to add citations to unsourced information, I found that there are parts that have exact wordings from texts. For instance, there are the cases of these unquoted texts in the
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This article needs lots of references, can the editors pls consider adding the same... when I get sometime, I will definitely add them, but busy for now... Keep up the good work.
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I use Jung's work on this frequently, to good effect, in "Secure Units". I can witness to the value of his work here. I did not notice his work on it in the article page?
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Hi. Why is this article illustrated with a photo of the Freud's museum? I'd suggest to change it to something Jung-related. (Haven't figured out the photo editing yet)
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This has nothing to do with science at all- I suggest that this article is deleted or rewritten as a whole, because it contains no empirical information whatsover
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The removal of large sections, mostly unsubstantiated, is both necessary as it was highly misleading and is in preparation for accurate editing of this material.--
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Each article appears to have been written by editors w/out knowledge of the other. At least some X-ref & show relationship/develoment or possibly merge. --
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certain. I'll look more closely at this when I have time and see if I can help. I have some knowledge of this area and some good books I can refer to. --
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so those should be looked into and either given a reference or removed. The references should also be checked to make sure they are all correct.
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It would be far better, and truer to an Encyclopaedia, to have another article page on the other types of psychology or epistomology.
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Someone who actually understands the subject better than I would be greatly thanked if they rewrote the opening sentence in the form:
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Is it possible to rephrase much of the lead section to be understandable to people without a background in the subject?
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it looks like this has been discussed some already with ambiguous results, but it was brought up a couple times on the
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AP article, but is there any way to get around the redirect so I can create a new article on depth psych? Thx --
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Is it ok to talk about an "individual archetype"? Or about creating an archetype? According to the
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is being nominated for a rename to Category:Analytical psychology. Comments are welcome at its
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shouldn't articles across wikipedia about jung respectfully spell extraversion the way he did?
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But then further states that Animus is the rational mind and Anima is the irrational.
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There was one question I wished to ask when reading about the Animus and Anima.
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One line says: "(e.g. a man who acts aggressively and never cries)"
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article seems to be a little biased to defend Jungian Psychology.
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Is it appropriate to have a photograph of a couch in this article?
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How about a section of criticisms of analytical psychology? --
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Well I think he wrote that in German and not in English?
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I feel it bears some contradiction in it's explanation.
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Talk:Analytical psychology
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