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1009:"The Andromeda and Milky Way galaxies also have a shared destiny: in about five billion years, the two will begin a massive gravitational interaction - also called a "collision" - that will spark extensive new star formation" - this part is cool, but the way it reads sounds like it will definitely happen. You should add "predicted" somewhere in there. ("the two are predicted to begin", something like that). The shared destiny part sounds a bit dramatic, IMO.
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192:"Andromeda is a constellation in the northern sky." - there could probably be a better opening sentence. It doesn't really say anything. Is it truly northern from wherever you look at it on Earth? Is it only visible from the northern hemisphere? Is there anything you could say to draw the reader in a bit more?
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Persideae and I feel like there should be an article for the Oracle of Ammon. There are a bunch of sources I could find with just a Google search. However, I don't really have the time to take that on. I could definitely link it to the Cult section in
287:"Andromeda is prominent in the northern sky during the fall" - if you keep the current opening sentence, then this clause is redundant (sans the fall part). Given there is ambiguity about "fall" referring to verb or an action or a season, perhaps you should use Autumn?
462:"In the myth, Cassiopeia, the queen of Ethiopia, bragged that her daughter was more beautiful than the Nereids, sea nymphs blessed with incredible beauty." - the last clause could use clarification, such as "...Nereids, which are sea nymphs", or something.
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Hm, well, I kind of assumed that it was, but if you as a reader disagree, I'll change that. I figure clarity for non-astronomy people is paramount, especially in the lead. Is there a general wording that would help? I'm not quite sure how to change it.
577:"Part of Andromeda and most of Lacerta were taken in 1787" - how could it be taken? It sounds like territorial, but they're stars.... Again, this is why some explanation of what a constellation is (instead of just wikilinking it), could be helpful.
919:"The Great Galaxy" - I notice this a few times. Is that the official nickname? You mention it in "Deep-sky objects" as if you had established what it was, but it's left there with some ambiguity. Could you explain it in the article?
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Andromeda and most of the stars in Lacerta were combined in 1787". Would some writing earlier about how constellations are now also defined as specific regions of the sky, not just figures, help?
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Ehh, it's cool, but "shared destiny" doesn't seem terribly appropriate for Wiki. It's a bit too much astrofangirlism. What about "The futures of the Milky Way and
Andromeda are expected to be interlinked." Or something? ♫
972:" It is an enormous barred spiral galaxy - 192.4 by 62.2 arcminutes - much like the Milky Way" - I'm confused what part is like the Milky Way. The previous sentence said that the galaxy is twice the size of the Milky Way.
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545:"is currently officially recognized by the International Astronomical Union" - this could be better (the currently officially). Would you be opposed to switching "currently" to "now officially", or something? --♫
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similar in form to the Milky Way, and at an approximate magnitude of 3.5, is one of the brightest deep-sky objects in the northern sky." I think it's still a bit awkward, any suggestions?
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Oh, I completely agree it's worth having in the lede. I wasn't a fan of how it was the first important sentence of the lede, but it's much better given the new opening sentence. ♫
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Well, I found the third sentence (bit about one of 48 Ptolemy constellations). That is much more interesting, and it gives it more definition than what is currently there. --♫
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Andromeda is not in our galaxy. I think that should be mentioned sooner, as that's more important than what it's named after.
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Yea, that'd better if you add something earlier. And not to nitpick, but I don't see that new sentence in the article... lose something in the edit window? ;) --♫
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is a gravitationally-bound collection of stars, gas, and other random objects that is all at the same general distance from the Earth. Does that help?
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Nah, it's no problem leaving them there. I just wanted to make sure there could be an article made on them at some point. --♫ **
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I'm a total fangirl, what can I say? Rewritten to say "The futures of the
Andromeda and Milky Way galaxies may be interlinked"
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Sweet. And given that you have the sub-article already on "stars in
Andromeda constellation", it's fine you removed n And. --♫
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Little nitpick, but it being called the Great Galaxy is sourced, right? ♫
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I'll take care of more comments later once you address some of these. --♫
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Part Two: The Return of the Editing (rated PG for pretty good... so far)
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I shuffled things around, could you give it another look-see?
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K, just a few small things and I'll be happy to pass it! ♫
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Thanks for your review! I look forward to more comments.
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Nah, that puts a good touch on that section, thanks. --♫
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392:- makes this much clearer. --♫
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