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I understand the focus of the article, and I agree about setting each flag in its proper period in time. I'm grateful, though, that the star-tricolor does appear later in the article, with an explanation about its source. I'm sure anyone looking up this topic would want to know its origin, since it
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The first paragraph ends with "yep it was sad we all know that if you think it is sad clap your hands" - the history shows
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Here's an odd situation: There doesn't seem to be a standardization in
Knowledge about the spelling of LeBorgne. I see it entered as Le Borgne, Leborgne and LeBorgne. Before I write a bio for this Acadian player, I'd like others' opinions. I favor 'LeBorgne', as a common usage. I would also go
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While I agree the title French and Indian War is problematic for the reasons cited, the French and Indian War wiki article is the only one that provides the context of what was happening in Acadia (e.g., Siege of
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I would like to see the naming of the war changed back to Seven Years' War from French and Indian War. The former is the term actually used in the
Acadian region, while the latter reflects the American viewpoint exclusivly. Any comments? If there are no objections I will eventually get around to
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At least as long as as search for "Acadia" directs here, the tricolor with the star should probably be displayed. If this is directly found by a search for the historic colony rather than the present day region, that would be different. At present, most people looking for Acadia probably care about
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I came to this article hoping to find an analogue to "Cajun
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The main problem with WP's coverage of New France is that there is little continuity between the different locales. Americans editors have made the
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Atlantic coast, roughly between the 40th and 46th parallels. ", so the north latitude at least we kinda "know" would be 43 N. How to work out the longitude beats me....eyeballing the map (which
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Acadia came about with the merging of French and English colonists together. Of that which is true, Acadia - at the time of its geographical existence - was separate from the Canadian province now known as Quebec, though there was a spillage of Acadians migrating into Quebec eventually with time
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I don't understand -- if the territory (i.e. Colony of Acadia) eventually formed parts of Canadian provinces *and* US states (Maine?) - doesn't it straddle the line so that both sets of nomenclature should appear early in the article and be explained in that manner? How is this a purely Canadian
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Well, a friend told me that my reply to your first answer was not worded very nicely. Now this probably applies. Indeed, I was quite angry about the fact that you have treated me like an usual vandal. We do not share the same convictions, but if I have attacked you personally, it was not my
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Due to many of the French colonists not being able to fare well with the English colonists and Native Indians (MicMacs, Iroquois, Algonquins, Hurons, Mohawks - just to name a few), these ones migrated more to the south and thereby formed what is now termed as the Quebec Province of Canada.
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If you ask me the main problem is that this whole article is written backwards. It's focused on the colonial history rather than the modern day region and culture. I think this article would be more correctly called the History of Acadia, and a new article more focused on the modern
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I totally agree. The Seven Years' War is a more accurate representation of the war under discussion. Just as Queen Anne's War and the War of Austrian Succession were their own troubles, so, too, was the French & Indian War a unique event in time/space. (And I'm an American,
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This was my first, unsuccessful foray into editting an article. I saw that the first footnote in the Geography section said that the reference was gone. The History section also stated that the colonists left Port Royal in 1608. I added the citation of Faragher's
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If one listens closely to the Acadian dialect, one will notice how the languages of French and English have blended and inter-mixed. In essence, the Acadian culture is the offspring child of both France and England, having formed a very unique culture of its own.
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Should the article for Acadia automatically refer to an historical article? Acadia is an existing, vibrant, heavily recognized cultural region in Atlantic Canada. I feel it should probably take precedence over the historic definition. It's a living culture.
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This is what we did on the French Knowledge: an article for the French colony, and an article for the current area. Only writting about the past of Acadia is somewhat missing the point, just like writting only about it's current situation would be untrue.
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The map given here of Acadia neglects to include most of Maine, to the Kennebec river, which was also oonsidered part of Acadia. Is there someone who could put in another map - indicating the contested terrain involved most of Maine and New Brunswick?
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further to edit other instances of Emmanuel's name. More contemporary LeBorgnes may have chosen to spell thier names differently, so I wouldn't presume to edit those names. As a side-note, the etymology is from an old nickname meaning 'one-eyed'.
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North American Atlantic seaboard possessions of France in the 17th and 18th centuries. Centred in what is now Nova Scotia, Acadia was probably intended to include the other present Maritime Provinces of Canada as well as parts of Maine and Quebec.
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get a better understanding of how New France was organized. I proposed this new Navbox template. The first section I am committed to and eventually I want to see it on this page regardless. The rest is open to debate and change.
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Interesting. I thought the park should be directly included in the article. It is my guess ANP was named after Acadia or Acadians. ANP is one of the largest or most visited parks. Might be worth adding directly to the article.
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I was wondering whether it would be possible for someone to find old french maps or create a map (or maps) based on them, of the territory in question - though it is explained in the article, a picture is a thousand words...
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At the time France set out to explore, so did England. Jacques Cartier (France) was the first to have come down through the St. John Valley river, but soon explorers from England arrived shortly thereafter.
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Acadia is also a current day cultural region. The term should not necessarily automatically refer to an historical article. There should be a full article for the modern day cultural region of Acadia.
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Why not include both flags in the article, properly identified of course? The historic flag to illustrate 17th-18th century colonial Acadie, and also the tricolor with star to illustrate modern Acadie.
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1: When the French colonists arrived through the inlet of the St. John Valley River, along the shores they planted a Cross on my grandmother's brother's property, which to this day is there still.
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To 2nd: Acadia was a French colonial territory, indeed. But without an own flag. Tell me, why the english flag is not used in the article
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