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Yeah, need to think about what citations are right here. Essentially, a lot of writers (understandably) copied this information which turned out to be false, and you see it on a lot of websites and books. So I wanted to really throw in every relevant citation I could here in case I dropped dead and
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I've described all of them as 'historians', which I think is an acceptable basic summary, although they have different primary professions: Schumacher-Gebler is primarily a printer, Kupferschmid a professor of graphic design and
Reynolds a font designer with a doctorate in history (specifically of
716:, thank you so much, this is great feedback. I'm going to think about the intro-I think I may add a section called "etymology" at the top as "Akzidenz" doesn't neatly translate into English. I'm going to comment under each of your suggestions as a checklist of resolving each issue.
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I couldn't find an obvious single citation for this, but effectively it's just a preview of sections 7-8, especially 8.2: that a lot of people have created digital fonts based on
Akzidenz-Grotesk since it's popular and public domain. I've put "as discussed below" to make that
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Duplinks – Günter
Gerhard Lange (Akzidenz-Grotesk Buch, Akzidenz-Grotesk Old Face; also don't take the full name once the person has been mentioned by the full name earlier), Helvetica (Akzidenz-Grotesk Buch), Futura and blackletter style (Akzidenz-Grotesk Schulbuch)
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manufacture of metal type (which was done from
Gutenberg up to, say, the 1950s, with use of metal type continuing into the 1980s or so without significant further product development). But as that's a mouthful I've simply linked to
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Per the above point this should actually go into the first mention. Actually take the full name on first mention and introduce the person.. take just the last name in later mentions.
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Yes, we're a bit lucky here for pictures: this style of minimal poster isn't considered eligible for copyright, so I wanted to throw a few pictures in. I think it's the best option
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some well-meaning person reading the article decided it needed to be "fixed" to correct the "mistake". I've now rephrased the section to make it a bit clearer, too.
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Resolved, I hope, although I don't think the names of all the versions could be practically fitted into the lead. I've added an etymology section.
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font design). None have
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This is quite an important detail, especially as the name might look strange to many readers. This should not be mentioned just in the lead.
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Berthold is not mentioned since the lead. It should be mentioned by the full name on first mention in the main text.
799:, yes, sorry, I've been a bit sidetracked by other things this week. I plan on getting the rewrites done tomorrow.
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Not sure if big blanks are ok in an article to accommodate pics, though I personally don't see any issue in it
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Akzidenz-Grotesk Schulbuch and the last part of Akzidenz-Grotesk Next need inline citations
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An etymology section sounds great. Take your time with the writing but keep updating this page. Cheers,
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I find this interesting and well-written at first glance. Will post my comments soon. Cheers,
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Akzidenz indicates its intended use ... for sans-serif typefaces at the time.
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That's all from me. A comprehensive, well-written article :)
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could be of good use here and wherever we have German terms.
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As is normal in typefaces cut during the metal type period
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Hi, no activity here since a week.. any update? Cheers,
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Duplinks – Helvetica, Univers, Folio, Erik Spiekermann
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Rephrased. What I meant was that this is standard in
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383:Duplicate link. Also 'Bauer foundry of Frankfurt'
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508:Duplinks: Helvetica, apertures
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295:metal type
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48:Authorship
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