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According to who? What you're saying is if Walker uploads a song to SoundCloud it's "unofficially released" as well, which makes no sense. Anything released by the artist himself is official, it doesn't have to be released under a label or made available for purchase and streaming. You don't need to
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Sure they are. Distribution includes digital consumption. It is impossible for recorded music to actually get into the hands of consumers aside from CD and vinyls and such so iterally what you're saying is every song in history that wasn't released on CD and was only available for streaming and
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Not an easy choice, but my two cents on this: If a "remix" (sometimes the artist might call it a bootleg) is published by a specific artist in mind, albeit released through a label or self-published on
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No. Again, this is an opinion not a fact. I can remix somebody's song and put it on SoundCloud and call it a remix, you don't need permission from the original artist or label. Yes, they are not official remixes, but they are still remixes, and are released by Walker himself. Remixes are not
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dig through my comments and find flaws to back up your argument. When I said he isn't notable under Dotcom, I was saying that I'm against the idea of making a separate page and discography for Dotcom, I didn't really read what he wrote at the end.
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digital download doesn't count as an official release. Stop citing these random articles as if they must be right, you're just using them because they fit your argument. I'm tired of this back and forth just go for a RfC.
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Self-published music is unofficially released unless made available with distribution. The remixes listed here are not made available anywhere but on YouTube. DJ Walkzz is a non-notable alias of Walker and you once
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