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What are you citing with source 1 in the sentence beginning "As the detective commander for
Brooklyn, he once oversaw an investigation of a shooting death..." That source doesn't support the "proceeded to find the guilty party by picking at place on the map at random" claim. You should use source 4
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I've taken most of that out ... it has been added in the past by
Seedman's family, who have been a little bitter over us having deleted the first version of the article that they started themselves after his death, so I haven't been too militant otherwise in enforcing this.
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I can't find anything about the BLA in source 1, beyond "Three pairs of police officers were shot — four of the officers were killed and two grievously wounded — in ambushes by the Black
Liberation Army" What source are you using for the claims you make about the
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Why is there a cite after "rising through the ranks" in the middle of the sentence? Cites should come after punctuation. I can't find mention of him being promoted to detective (rather than chief of detectives) in either source 3 or
628:(well, a book excerpt really) that tells this all in more detail and updates. They have subsequently identified and prosecuted some of the suspects. So I expanded this portion of the article and updated it accordingly.
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All look good, but you credit source 24 to Albert
Seedman even though he died in 2013. And is there a better source for his appearance in 'The Irishman'? A personal Facebook page doesn't screma RELIABLE to
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in recognition of his military service there during World War II." Seedman posted that ... Albert
Seedman. Can you word this better? Reminds me of the kind of third-person statements used by wrestlers!
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for either Arabic ones or, in this case, alphanumerics, usually with "X", that reflect the order in which they joined whatever congregation it was (so saith the note in the intro of
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External links "should not normally be placed in the body of an article" Can you add the link to
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I added something about that ... it does seem from the article like his oversight did something important there.
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601:"in one, no suspects have ever been identified" How do we know this attack was related to the BLA in that case?
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in there because it links to a photo of the letter in question from the French government,
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Has this been taken out by someone else since this review started? I can't find it.
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OK, I've gone through this punchlist and addressed everything ... how do you feel?
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Maybe link "the tube" to television. The term isn't in common usage anymore.
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I decided to just cut this sentence; in context it's really unnecessary.
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I appreciate you can't talk about every case, but his involvment in the
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Congrats and thanks for introducing me to this guy!
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