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and sand) is classic primary source, rejected in secondary sources of the modern era. Thus, treaty of Hasan-Muawiya and primary sources relating to the event can be discussed in secondary sources per Doctrine of Repugnancy in view of conflicts and wars between Ali & Muawiya and our stance of silence with respect to events of that time was force meajure. Battle of Karbala is the final proof under retrospective doctrine of history which also validates our strategy for avoidance of bloodshed and provision of guidance with no greed for dominance. In this scinerio a number of events were recorded as primary source, many of these events contradict to each other, which is a bone of contest in our secondary sources.
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research on these matters with no other justification given than a shallow claim that the author is "wahabi" or a Jew. It's sad because Imam al-Qasim (rah) is one of our earliest sources detailing the character of 'Ali, predating any written material even by the Twelvers concerning him. All our other information about him comes generally from Shi'ite Twelver sources since mention of him is scarce outside of these as having actually done anything. And on the basis of that naturally polemical material, this whole article has been crafted, to the exclusion of anything from outside these sources that would threaten said set of beliefs (though to be fair, it's seen a lot of improvement from two years ago...)
492: 471: 85: 403: 382: 1739:, I have added some content from new sources (Wardrop, Pierce, Sachedina, Hussain, etc.) and also new content from the existing sources to the article. I think the coverage in Death is fairly comprehensive already but it could be improved further if Islamica (Persian) has something to add there (just in case you have access to it and have time for it). Otherwise, please have a look at the article. We can submit it for review when you feel happy with it. 502: 5156:, thank you very much for the new comments. I think they have all been addressed in the current version of the article. GOCE could be a good idea and we'll probably try it for our next article. The downside is their huge backlog, and I'm a bit skeptical about the quality of edits by someone entirely unfamiliar with the topic. But I guess one could also argue that this unfamiliarity could be a good thing. Let's find out next time! 337: 21: 2674: 2649: 2623: 2590: 2564: 2535: 2513: 2482: 2456: 2434: 2412: 2375: 2333: 76: 136: 118: 317: 5444: 1574: 642: 4423:(862) and was consequently banned by al-Hadi from receiving alms on his behalf. He continued to do so, however, without forwarding them to al-Hadi, who excommunicated Faris in 250 AH (864) for embezzling religious dues. Later when Faris continued to openly incite against al-Hadi, the latter called for his death, and he was indeed assassinated during the imamate of Hasan al-Askari. 2693: 5087: 5075: 5064: 5053: 5042: 5031: 4992: 4863: 4823: 4812: 580: 1549:. The added section covers a modern controversy related to a major religious figure in an objective and verifiable manner. I am not endorsing or promoting such topics, I am merely describing them. While I understand that Imam Naghi (a.s.) is sacred to you and your fellow Shia, Knowledge articles are not supposed to be edited from any explicit religious viewpoint. Best regards. 251: 1862:"invoking a divine curse" is different from "insulting" which is not accepted. Shia imams never insulted and never advised it to their followers. Even in the Ziyarat Ashura, we cannot see an explicit curse against the the companions or wive of Muhammad. We see only the names of Abu Sufyan, Mu'wiya and Yazid, none of whom could be considered as companions of Muhammad. 865:). I believe the best thing to do is perhaps include that these two figures are stating it, as well as that these two figure's backgrounds. So for example, "Zaidi scholar al-Kasim states," and so forth. On Knowledge we can't really argue about the validity of those statements unless the source is downright polemic (as the first one is, however the second one is a 241: 206: 884:, reveals a character who seems to be a serious individual within the scholarly establishment. Also, on second thought, we cannot really state the background of the person stating it (but their name is fine) unless we can cite a source noting that his scholarship is controversial because of his background, as long as we're careful not to break 2203: 1370:. Why it is considered necessary to place a full stop after mentioning three sons. Therefore it is necessary to evaluate the reliability of reference being emphasized with the availability of an ISBN # and its publishing in English language by a foreign expert (his dignity is recognized, but critical view is our right). In my discussion 900:
very strong among scholors. Probably Abrahamov's work is an extended translation of Kasim's work with footnotes, enhancements, explations and views of Abrahamov. I still insist that we should also look for excerpts of his work quoted here to compare exact nature of what is stated in source and what is mentioned here on this article. --
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few miraculous accounts in the bio are not totally out of place. On a more personal note, I don't find many of these attributed miracles difficult to believe, like occasionally predicting the future, speaking multiple languages, or showing a certain vision to others. Similar deeds are commonly attributed to
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Her view (very roughly) is that it was probably difficult for Shias to see their imam defenseless against the tyrant of his time and so some historical accounts were probably embellished with miraculous details to show that the tyrant gets his fair share already in this world. That is to say that the
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Before nominating, I'd suggest going through the points raised in the GA review for al-Jawad: clear prose with a view to the non-expert reader, implementing NPOV as to his position as imam, editorial issues like clear distinction of AH and CE dates or appropriate introduction and contextualization of
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It's true Kasim's work is controversial, but if a respectable scholar chooses to use his work, it makes the situation much different (we aren't in a place to criticize a respectable scholar for their sources). But sure, we should see if we can get excerpts of that work, it could very possibly be in a
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Faris ibn Hatim ibn Mahawayh al-Qazvini was initially a representative of al-Hadi and his intermediary with the Imamites living in the Jibal (lit. 'mountains'), the region encompassing the central and western parts of modern-day Iran. Faris was involved in a dispute with Ali ibn Ja'far around 248 AH
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At the same time, some followers of Faris ibn Hatim claimed that the successor of al-Hadi was his son Muhammad, who appointed his brother as the next Imam before his death during the lifetime of al-Hadi. They accordingly accepted the imamate of Ja'far instead of al-Askari. This was apparently an act
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Most of these miracles are mentioned earlier, under the biographical section (e.g. the foretelling of Mutawakkil's death or the soldiers not killing him). Since I think we can agree that these are stories reported after the fact to highlight his divine inspiration, I strongly recommend removing them
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It was during the caliphate of al-Mutawakkil that the governor of Medina, Abd Allah ibn Muhammad, wrote to the caliph and warned him about the subversive activities of al-Hadi, claiming that he had concealed arms and books for his followers. Alternatively, the Ithbat attributes the affair to Burahya
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According to general rule, no primary source can be deleted. Acceptance or rejection is discussed in secondary source and comments/explanations provided therein are evaluated by groups and schools. However a primary sources may or may not be a truth e.g. the theory of 04 elements (air, water, fire
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I think this is irrationale & illogical argument, neverthless I'm not the sort of aggresive editor whose aggrisivenes makes him vandal thats the reason I have not even touched the section of article being discussed but varily I think I'm free to express my discontent atleast on talk page so that
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Satisfied with changes/responses, passing now. On the GOCE, you may have to wait a couple of months, it is true. And yes, the unfamiliarity is a double-edged sword, but usually it leads to improvements that make the article more understandable to the average reader. Once again, well done to you and
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The lede is bit short for an article of this size. Some sections, e.g. 'Designation' or 'Miracles' are not covered at all. Please ensure that the lede provides a summary of the article body; facts may be selectively expanded upon or summarized depending on importance, but a reader should be able to
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I think once the distinction between CE and AH dates is made clear, it is not necessary to repeat CE constantly, especially since it is assumed that in an English-language encyclopedia, any date without a marker will be a CE date, as e.g. the regnal dates or death dates (conversely, all Hijri dates
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al-Mutawakkil temporarily forbade his staff from serving al-Hadi, advised by a relative nicknamed Harisa, who warned the caliph about the good name of al-Hadi in the court. The report has a miraculous ending with the caliph abandoning his policy after an unexpected breeze blew the curtains open for
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case for example we read "Al-Sadiq also played no role in the Abbasid overthrow of the Umayyads. His response to a request for help from Abu Muslim, the Khorasani rebel leader, was to burn his letter, saying, " Al-Sadiq also played no role in the Abbasid overthrow of the Umayyads. His response to a
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or if he is neither a Mujtahid nor a follower (Muqallid), he should act on such precaution which should assure him that he has fulfilled his religious obligation. For example, if some Mujtahids consider an act to be haraam, while others say that it is not, he should not perform that act. Similarly,
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is a huge source for most of our articles on Islam), so we must investigate the stature of his writings within the scholarly community. I think however the information itself is notable enough for inclusion about this individual, but I'd like to further probe into Abrahamov's stature in scholarship
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The article refers to two persons named Ishaq ibn Ibrahim. One is the governor of Baghdad and the other is the governor of an area in central or western Iran. It's not clear from the corresponding sources if these two are the same person. I thought I'd bring this to your attention just in case you
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Unfortunately no, I couldn't find anything about this. But I suspect that they are two different individuals: the Tahirid was governor of Baghdad, whereas Saymara was a fairly unimportant locality, and above all, the Tahirid is not known to have been dismissed from office (and I doubt anyone with
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About those certain subgroups of the Ja'farites, it seems that they were not part of the Muhammadite movement. They apparently believed that Muhammad was the true successor of al-Hadi during his lifetime and that the former (rather than the latter) appointed Ja'far as his successor before he died
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Regarding an Author's description on a website which sells his book I think no website/shop will say that the author of book for sale is of controversial background. But primary reason of believing this source as weak is that Abrahamov's work is based on Kasim's work & Kasim's standing is not
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Abu Mohammad al-Qasim ibn Ibrahim Taba (ibn Ismail ibn Ibrahim ibn al-Hasan al-Muthanna ibn al-Hasan ibn Abi Talib ) was one of the leaders of Zaidiyyah, and his brand of Zaidiyyah was called Al-Qasimiyyah. He was born in 169/785(AH/AD) and died in 246/860(AH/AD). Following are the sources about
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Bihar reports that al-Mutawakkil temporarily forbade his staff from serving al-Hadi, advised by a relative nicknamed Harisa, who warned the caliph that this was boosting the political image of al-Hadi among people. The report has a miraculous ending with the caliph abandoning his policy after an
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For the first one, I have revised it to "Bihar reports that al-Mutawakkil temporarily forbade his staff from serving al-Hadi, advised by a relative nicknamed Harisa, who warned the caliph that this was boosting the image of al-Hadi among people. The report has a miraculous ending with the caliph
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I have done my best to clarify this. The paragraph repeatedly (excessively, really) uses phrases like 'Shia sources' or 'Twelver sources' and emphasizes repeatedly that what's given is the image of al-Hadi as portrayed in Shia sources. Following your comment, I checked the sources and made some
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An account in Ithbat from this period might show the political awareness of the young Ali, even though it has been given a miraculous aspect in some other sources. This account is dated 232 AH (846-7) and narrated by a servant in the court of al-Wathiq, named Khayran al-Khadim, whom Ali al-Hadi
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Because it is not clear how serving Hadi will raise his good name. This report from wiki-Farsi seems more plausible: "al-Hadi managed to answer all of Yahya's questions. It was after that that Yahya asked Mutawakkul to refrain from asking more questions from Hadi, because this would reveal his
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I added that reference a long time ago, I have the book in published form (not from the Berlin MS) in 'Arabic as well as the secondary references I used from Benyamin and Madledung. I don't edit wikipedia anymore because of the ease with which religious apologists are able to remove recognized
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Also dated 861, the biographical al-Khara'ij by the Twelver scholar Qutb al-Din al-Rawandi (d. 1178) similarly reports a house arrest of al-Hadi under Sa'id al-Hajib, who was allegedly ordered to kill the Imam. This time a visitor finds al-Hadi seated next to an open grave in his house but is
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Fine for now. But I would suggest that whether voluntary or enforced, quietism is the same political choice, especially since the lack of support never bothered the various Zaydi imams. The Imamite leaders may have awaited more favourable opportunities, but in the meantime they accommodated
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if some Mujtahid consider an act to be obligatory (Wajib) while others consider it to be recommended (Mustahab), he should perform it. Therefore, it is obligatory upon those persons who are neither Mujta hids, nor able to act on precautionary measures (Ihtiyat), to follow a Mujtahid.
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You are doing a very good job at it, don't get me wrong. But we have a subject where the details are provided almost exclusively by his partisans and are correspondingly hagiographic, whereas the other sources are relatively silent, so this has to be repeated every now and then for
757: 766: 747: 1474:, Madelung's article is not based on a single source. Beside do you think someone like you and me could analyse all primary sources about the conditions of Hasan-Muawiya treaty for example to realize which one tell the truth and which one is false. Look at chapter 6 of 926:
There may be case that this excerpt has been quoted by Abrahamov followed by his views/commentry which may be contrary to quote. But I still maintain my stand that as base work is controversial so any subsequent work is liable to be weak despite credebility of scholar.
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but I removed the link because of a comment I received from Ghazaalch to the effect that there is evidence the Shia Imams didn't revolt because they didn't have enough support. That is, they were forced to withdraw from politics rather than the article's description
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Some of the reports in the article seems to be incomplete such as the report about the Indian who arranged for the loaves of bread to move away when al-Hadi reached for them. These kinds of reports generally ends with miraculous responses of the Shia Imams in the
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As an important destination for Shia pilgrimage, the shrine was bombed in February 2006 and badly damaged. Another attack on 13 June 2007 destroyed the two minarets of the shrine. Iraqi authorities hold the Sunni extremist group al-Qaeda responsible for both
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inquires about the caliph's health. Khayran tells him that al-Wathiq is dying, adding that the general view is that he would be succeeded by his son. Ali, however, correctly predicts the accession of the caliph's brother Ja'far al-Mutawakkil (r. 847–861).
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Hmmm, I would recommend a slight rewrite in this section to emphasize that all these stories are told by later, and mostly partisan, sources about him. We don't actually know his personal traits, only what his followers wanted us to know (or invented
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are these the same as the Muhammadites? Even if not, should this not be mentioned along with them, rather than here? The whole episode of Fari's challenge to al-Hadi is also something that might be mentioned as an episode of its own earlier in the
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A very comprehensive article, very well referenced and well written. I worry a bit about overloading the proverbial 'average reader' with information, but I cannot fault your effort here, the transformation of this article is spectacular.
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These were introduced by our sources and so they are 'noteworthy' in that sense. Wardrop also has an index of key figures at the end of her thesis that lists some (all?) of these agents. If the list is too long, then we can remove some of
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To avoid the repetition, perhaps '...and, according to the early historian Abu al-Faraj al-Isfahani (d. 967), stipends were given to the Alids, the descendants of Ali ibn Abi Talib (d. 661)...'? Also, add here that Ali was the first Shia
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For the Muslim jurist and academic Hoessin Modarresi, the account of his succession suggests that the seniority of Ali over his brother was not sufficient and the Shia community had to be convinced that Ali was directly appointed by his
4646:, thank you again for the excellent feedback. Our point-by-point response (in blue and turquoise) is added above. In nearly all cases, we followed your suggestions as it's clear that they improve the article. A couple of general notes: 3094:
Would recommend merging this into the previous sentence: 'As for his birthplace, the Ithbat al-wassiya, a collective biography of the Shia imams attributed to the historian al-Mas'udi (d. 956), differs from the prevalent view...' or
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I agree on the first source being both invalid because in MOS:Islam we avoid ancient sources, and second because it is polemical and not reliable scholarship. Someone's Israeli Jewish background does not make their scholarship invalid
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No excerpts of his work quoted in this article are available, probabily the person who first provided this source owns hardcopy of the book and used it is source; in that case we can ask for his collbration & contribution on this
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You're very likely correct. However, the source (Wardrop) doesn't describe him as the governor, but rather as the guy in charge of prayer and war. As an alternative solution, I removed the sentence altogether. This part now reads as
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The Shia community was relatively free in this period, and the early historian Abu al-Faraj al-Isfahani (d. 967) reports that stipends were given to the Alids, that is, the descendants of Ali ibn Abi Talib (d. 661), the first Shia
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never lost their full ground in India due to tolerance in India (e.g. Ahamadis/Qadiyanis practice freely in India having their Mosques/institutions). Yes they never got into main-stream. Although most of Indians in principle are
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might not be exact. Because keeping aloof from politics cannot be considered as a principle in the life of Shia imams. I think they didn't revolt because they didn't find enough honest followers to work for the revolution. In
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In view of above discussion the section which provides explanation to the confusion in numbering and names of sons should remain in the main article for research and reference, in terms of EN-WP being the tertiary source.
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Forgot to add that I have commented out "Political context" for the time being. It does seem somewhat repetitive as it stands (details given there are scattered in the section "Life") but I could be convinced otherwise :)
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As for 'Shiite', Google Dictionary defines 'Shia' as both a noun (to describe an adherent) and an adjective. I highly prefer 'Shia' over 'Shiite' for obvious reasons and the former is becoming increasingly more common on
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if any user refers here he can get to see some debate and views about article & its sections. I'll try to find some support on my point meanwhile, but it seems I'll be little busy next 15 days due to Muharram. --
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hmmm, perhaps 'towards the Shia'? It might also be worth (but completely optional) distinguishing throughout the article between 'the Shia' as a movement and 'Shiites' (rather than 'Shias') as adherents of the
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As with his father, Ali al-Hadi was still a minor when he succeeded to the imamate at the age of about seven. Thanks to the precedent of al-Jawad, however, the imamate of Ali was widely accepted without much
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good. If you agree, I think this article (Ali al-Hadi) could be the next good article. I added some new information to it and reorganized it. Do you have any ideas on how to improve it before nominating it?
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Usually people don't take this path as it is little tricky & requires some research & findings but I prefer this one than following without thought, and surely Almighty Allah mentions in Qur'an that
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who is commonly known by the title al-Askari (lit. 'military') on account of his almost life-long detention under close surveillance in the garrison town of Samarra, after moving there with his father as a
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abandoning his policy after an unexpected breeze blew the curtains open for al-Hadi instead of the guards." The report that you mention would have been a good fit had it not been for its unreliable source.
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To address your comment, I've changed the sentence in question to "The caliph is said to have imposed the penalty of death by flagellation on anyone who defamed the companions or the wives of the prophet."
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I am pretty certain that this is simply a poetic description of the governor's office. An amir was primarily a military commander, and leading the community to prayer was his most important public/ritual
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The caliph also created a new army, known as Shakiriyya, which recruited from anti-Alid areas, such as Syria, al-Jazira (Upper Mesopotamia), al-Jabal, Hejaz, and from the Abna, a pro-Abbasid ethnic group.
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An account by Ibrahim ibn Mahziyar al-Ahwazi describes a visit to Ali al-Hadi in 228 AH (842-3) to deliver some goods, accompanied by his brother Ali. The two brothers were trusted associates of al-Jawad.
4202:...both about occultation, which is the Twelver belief that al-Askari has a son Muhammad, who has been concealed from the public since 874 and would return as the eschatological Mahdi at the end of time. 3721:
missing context here. Who was this and what is the relationship to al-Hadi? It is mentioned after, but it makes for puzzlement until one gets there. Generally there is a tendency to contextualize things
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As for his birthplace, the Shia-leaning historian al-Mas'udi (d. 956) differs from the prevalent view. Ithbat al-wassiya, a collective biography of the Shia Imams attributed to him, reports that...
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To address this comment, I have updated the text as "In the presence of al-Mutawakkil, al-Hadi miraculously debunked the claim of a woman who pretended to be Zaynab, daughter of Ali ibn Abi Talib."
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suggestion to remove 'Imamite' here, if you haven't used it before, as it is a new and unknown term for the average reader. Simply 'religious affairs of the Shia community' or 'of his followers'.
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New enough, long enough. ALT1 short enough and sourced (as is every paragraph). No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found, no maintenance templates found. QPQ done. Good to go.
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Also in Egypt, a follower of al-Hadi by the name of Muhammad ibn Hajar was killed and the estate of another follower, Saif ibn al-Layth, was confiscated by the ruler, according to al-Kulayni.
1711:, thanks for expanding this article. I'll be happy to work on it in the coming days, though it might take me a bit longer this time. I'll also keep in mind the above comments by Constantine. 2715:, concerning calligraphic representations of names; the consensus is that unless these are images with some inherent notability (e.g. the panels in the Hagia Sophia), they should be removed. 1347:. Many thanks for your recent edit on this article which is much better now. Do you think we could nominate this article as a Good Article now or you think it needs some more changes? Best 2993:
He was also known as al-Mutawakkil (Arabic: المتوكل على الله, lit. 'he who relies on God'), but this title was perhaps rarely used to avoid confusion with the Abbasid caliph al-Mutawakkil.
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In contrast, similar to his father and his grandfather, al-Sadiq adopted a quiescent attitude and kept aloof from politics. He viewed the imamate and caliphate as separate institutions
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At the same time, some followers of Faris ibn Hatim ibn Mahawayh al-Qazvini claimed that Muhammad ibn Ali al-Hadi was the successor of al-Hadi, even though he died before his father.
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If we want to keep the miraculous reports in bio section (i.e. they cannot be separated from bio section), I think we should emphasize that the reports are attributed to Shia belief.
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The caliph is said to have imposed the penalty of death by flagellation on anyone who defamed the companions or the wives of the prophet, some of whom are viewed negatively in Shia.
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is awkward; e.g. 'According to the Islamicist Shona F. Wardrop, this may be an indication of the young Ali beginning to renew links with the loyal followers of his father, al-Jawad'
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That's it. There's a couple of minor issues outstanding, but I am satisfied that the article fulfils the GA criteria. Once the minor issues are done, I will promote it. Cheers,
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More recently, the complex was rebuilt in 1868-9 at the request of Naser al-Din Shah Qajar (r. 1848–1896), ruler of Persia and a Twelver, and the golden dome was added in 1905.
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The above nomination may imply that al-Hadi himself abandoned the leadership of the Shia community which is not correct. Perhaps the following is a more accurate alternative:
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of defiance to al-Askari, who had sided with his father al-Hadi when he excommunicated his erstwhile agent Faris for embezzling religious dues and openly inciting against him.
4258:) But I also have to disagree with the proposal that the miraculous reports are fabricated. True, some of them are exaggerated. Still, they can't be ignored. From our article: 2140:
and I have been working on this article for some time and we finally feel that it's ready now for the nomination. We also carefully took into account your earlier comments on
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When al-Hadi approached Baghdad, people gathered to see him and he was received warmly by the governor, Ishaq ibn Ibrahim al-Tahiri, who rode out of the city to welcome him.
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Still, some considered al-Hadi to be the last Imam, and Hasan is said to have written to Imamite figures across the Abbasid empire to dispel their doubts about his imamate.
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but the last author believes that al-Hadi sent and received his messages with secrecy, and that the caliph had his house searched for any evidence of seditious activities.
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Ok, this is a reasonable argument. In that case, I've removed the less relevant character from the text. His only appearance is now replaced with the following sentence.
2095:, thanks for the comments. Please have a look at the responses above. I'll submit this tomorrow for review (unless you have any follow-up comments). Fingers crossed! :) 2312: 1183:
I've noticed lots of Neo-Akhbarism! Why is this happening? I heard Akhbarism lasted in India longer than it did in other places, but Usulism eventually defeated it. --
5560: 4127:! I reworded a few sentences and added back Faris who later shows up again in the article. Hopefully, we'll later get to expand the new articles about these figures. 5520: 2363: 2241: 297: 32: 3589:...but requested that he with his family relocate to the new Abbasid capital of Samarra, a garrison town where the Turkish guards were stationed, north of Baghdad. 5470: 3565:
al-Abbasi, the leader of prayers in Medina, who may have advised the caliph to remove al-Hadi from the city because he was allegedly agitating against the caliph.
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The following sentence is not in context and has nothing to do with shia being under pressure, because al-Hadi's true shias did not insulted the companions:
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Do we have any reason to doubt that this source is valid? I've Googled the source, and it seems prominent and is used elsewhere aside from Knowledge. --
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changes to the paragraph. It is also important to note that persecution and oppression by the Sunni majority is the ever-present theme in Shia history.
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As with most of his predecessors, he kept aloof from politics until he was summoned from his hometown of Medina around 848 CE to the capital Samarra...
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Family tree starting from Imam Ali Naqi is called as NAQVI family which can be largely found in India, Pakistan, Iran & Iraq. Regards Shadab Naqvi
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Some of the agents could have their own article and we could include a summary/ part of the article that is more relevant to the life of al-Hadi here.
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request for help from Abu Muslim, the Khorasani rebel leader, was to burn his letter, saying, "This man is not one of my men, this time is not mine.""
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With that in mind, I found no instances in the article where the distinction between 'Shia' (as the religion) and 'Shias' (its adherents) is unclear.
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from the prior section; a short note to the effect that many miracles are attributed to him during e.g. during his confinement in Samarra is enough.
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this can be omitted entirely IMO, or shortened to '...who are also known by the name Abu al-Hasan'. The numbering is pretty clear from the sequence.
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One of the many such accounts about al-Hadi is narrated by Ibrahim ibn Mahziyar, who describes a meeting with a young al-Hadi in 228 AH (842-3)...
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Oh. Thanks for the link. I suspect this is one of the rules more honoured in the breach than in the observance, though, as I see this very often.
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accounts; I would recommend including this here, since 'reliable' according to Shia view is not necessarily reliable according to everyone else.
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hmmm, the latter part at least is directly attributed to al-Masudi, and the house searches are repeated in several locations in the article (
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Ali al-Hadi is also credited in Twelver sources with predicting the death of al-Mutawakkil, who had either imprisoned or humiliated al-Hadi.
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After the death of his father, the young Ali was likely kept by the Abbasids under the guardianship of caretakers hostile to the Shia cause.
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The caliph is said to have imposed the penalty of death by flagellation on anyone who insulted the companions or the wives of the prophet.
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The caliph also dismissed officials suspected of Shia sympathies, including the governor of Saymara and Sirawan in the province of Jibal.
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Following your suggestion, these instances were replaced by 'Muslim academic'. I think it is to be contrasted with 'Western Islamicist'.
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The account of al-Mas'udi adds that this escort searched the residence of al-Hadi in Medina, without finding any evidence of subversion
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is the conjecture here that this might be the reason why Hasan wrote these letters, or that he may have written letters to that effect?
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His full name is apparently Abd Allah ibn Muhammad ibn Dawud Hashemi, according to Madelung. A (red) link was added for this full name.
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I think "Internet Meme" section should not be placed in the page in order to avoid like stories whether retrospective or prospective.
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Apologies for the delay in responding and doing the spotcheck, was unexpectedly away from any decent internet connection for a while.
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I assume that here it is meant in the original sense as 'government', rather than the royal title? Then I would translate it as such.
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As pointed out above, try to split up the large blocks of text into paragraphs. The article is already very dense with information.
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Apparently no one claimed responsibility for the attack but the Iraqi officials blamed al-Qaeda. This part now reads as follows.
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or if he is not a Mujtahid himself, he should follow one, i.e. he should act accordi ng to the verdicts (Fatwa) of the Mujtahid;
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I will try to move some of this information to "Notes" section or their own articles. It would take me a day or two hopefully.
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Wardrop stresses that, while many of these reports might be exaggerated, they are likely based on truth and unwise to ignore .
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Among others, multiple accounts in Ithbat and Dala'il al-im'ama show Ali supernaturally alert the very moment his father died.
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but it's still possible that we have missed some things. (In that case, sorry!) We hope that you would be available to review
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but the last author believes that al-Hadi sent and received his messages with secrecy under the watchful eyes of the caliph.
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The only overlap between the bio and 'Miracles' seems to be #2 above in the bio, a summary of which appears in 'Miracles' (
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themselves to the Abbasid status quo (perhaps most notably in al-Ridha's case) in a way the Zaydis or the Ismailis did not.
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To save time, I will be doing some minor copyedits straight away. Feel free to challenge them if they appear unreasonable.
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The source is silent but it's probably meant as 'Muslim ruler' here. In the revision, 'sultan' was replaced with 'ruler'.
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decapitalize throughout, unless you refer to the Twelve Imams as a group, or to 'the Imam' as an alternative to 'al-Hadi'
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It is, but when dealing with religious personalities, 'ascension' has other connotations and I would prefer avoiding it.
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decide to remove some of the less important agents (maybe on the basis of their appearance elsewhere in the article).
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To address your comment about moving up the material about Faris, I've added a new bullet to the list of his agents:
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prevented Alids from answering to religious inquiries or accepting charitable gifts, thus pushing them into poverty.
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Elsewhere in the article, there are currently no instances where 'Imam' does not refer to one of the Twelve Imams.
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Is there a special significance to the name Abu'l-Hasan apart from being his kunya? Then this should be explained
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either be a Mujtahid (jurist) himself, capable of inferring and deducing from the religious sources and evidence;
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Several localities are mentioned here which will be unknown to most readers. May I suggest including a map like
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In the next five years, Ali al-Hadi successfully established contact with representatives from several regions.
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communicating with his followers. The part about house search was removed and the rest was changed as follows.
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After reshuffling the content in the lede (as suggested in the next comment), this change is now unnecessary.
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Ithbat is an early collective biography of the Shia Imams, but its attribution to al-Mas'udi is not certain
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Binyamin Abrahamov is professor of Islamic Theology and Quranic Studies at Bar-Ilan University in Israel.
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This is a good idea. This map and a more detailed map of the area near Samarra were added to the article.
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has already been repeated in the beginning, and is not that relevant here. What is noteworthy is that
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per above, this is not sufficient introduction (e.g. Iranian jurist or Iranian expert on Islamic law)
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I suggest breaking up the large paragraphs into smaller ones. Walls of text do not encourage readers.
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To address your comment, we merged the sentence in question with its previous sentences as follows.
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Good point. This was changed as follows and we also added a citation for the new claim at the end.
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he is famous enough that 'named' can be omitted; as a rule of thumb, if somebody is not just an
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Don't know what I intended to write with 'What is noteworthy is that...', so just ignore it ;).
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To address your comment, this was revised after consulting the source. Now it reads as follows.
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Regarding prominency - I want to say that any thing which is prominent may not be just/correct.
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as an aside, and unrelated to this GA process, you might want to submit your articles to the
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The funeral prayer is said to have been led by al-Muwaffaq (d. 891), a brother of the caliph.
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for example to see how a new historian do this job. See also how these information has been
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the section title is unwieldy, recommend something shorter, perhaps 'Later yeas (861–868)'?
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Was Ibrahim ibn Mahziyar al-Ahwazi a Shia partisan? In what capacity did he visit al-Hadi?
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with the note that he calls Ali 'Ali al-Talhin' rather than 'Ali b. Talhi' as does Hussain
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probably have based his work on Ḳāsim's work so Abrahamov's work fall under same category.
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From a quick look, it looks like another amazing piece of work. Would love to review it!
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I managed to successfully remove the footnote by adding just one word to the main text.
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In addition to al-Hadi, the shrine also houses the tombs of his son, Hasan al-Askari...
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reassured by him that he would not be harmed because al-Mutawakkil would die shortly.
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That's it. Thank you again for your good work and good luck with this new nomination.
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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More specifically, his residence was in the center of the city on Abi Ahmad street.
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per above, either 'to the Shia' or 'to Shias/Shiites', depending on what is meant
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It's the latter. To address your comment, this part is now rewritten as follows.
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A similar tradition is ascribed to al-Rida, the eighth of the Twelve Imams,...
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and most of the people know about it (even Imam-e-Juma of few mosques who are
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In response, the caliph assured al-Hadi of his highest regard for him but...
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I guess that the Abna mentioned here is most likely not a locality, but the
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I probably wanted to convey that the last author doesn't think al-Hadi was
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All are high quality RS, and a consistent and clear citation format is used
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unexpected breeze blew the curtains open for al-Hadi instead of the guards.
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for the average reader, the relevance of this to al-Hadi won't be apparent.
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I'm sure he does :) but the source doesn't bother with it. He is probably
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By the way, there is no Islamica article concerning al-Hadi in Persian.
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al-Irshad, which is considered reliable and unexaggerated by most Shias.
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We followed your suggestion here (but probably 'ascension' is also ok).
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again, 'accession', and clarigy Mutawakkil's relationship to Wathiq
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etc.). So, in general Indians can not be considered as very strict
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knowledge and strengthen the Rafizi (Shiites) among the people."
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process. It can do wonders for prose quality, style, and tone.
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anyone who defamed the companions or the wives of the prophet.
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Your proposal is correct and we agree with you. In this case,
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The solution arrived at works very well, thanks to you both.
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Nice. It makes sense :) The sentence was changed as follows.
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and some other short texts are ascribed to al-Hadi...
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though an exception is al-Shaykh al-Mufid (d. 1022)
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