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To a certain extent, the article misses the point. Alisa became a cult figure mostly because of the films where her part was played by
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I agree with the fact that the article covers the character on an unsatisfactory level. But don't forget that its “golden age” was during the Cold War, and it would be not widely known to the
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Now that I look at that book more closely, it's not an original book, but rather a collection of stories - Девочка, с которой ничего не случится, Настоящее кино, Это ты, Алиса?, Ржавый фельдмаршал, Путешествие Алисы, and Сто лет тому вперед. Now I can rest
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There is a series of books with Alice in them. I remember having a collection of 7 or 8 of them before 1994, but the plot of this one does not seem familiar. I will try to see if I still have the books in my possession and if this is one of the ones I own.
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