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asked you to do more than once, but I will explain again), you will find that the most frequent editor, who has added scores of unsourced content, and who primarily only edits Art & Language, Château de Montsoreau-Museum of Contemporary Art where the permanent collection of Art & Language is held and where they had added a tremendous amount of puffery, Philippe Méaille the owner of the Art & Language collection and the president of the Chateau de Montsoreau museum which houses that collection, and whose other edits are to frequently add Art & Language content to other articles, as well as half of their article creations having to do with Art & Language, including the article on the building that houses the A&L collection (which was deleted four times before being accepted under another article name). As an experienced editor, that seems quite odd to me, and is clearly indicative of conflict of interest editing, or worse, UPE, undisclosed paid editing. And that they never responded to the message I left for them regarding COI, is a pattern I've seen before. There have also been numerous other single-purpose editors. I have already communicated this, please stop making demands for justification when I have already done so. The maintenance tags that you so vehemently object to are are a helpful way to alert the community that work is needed on a specific article. I will continue to clean. up the unsourced content and original research and the remainder of COI content, but I won't be doing it on your timeline as you are certainly not the boss of me. I have other priorities on the encyclopedia and in real life. As previously suggested, please try to cultivate patience. Thank you and goodbye.
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find it very rude, and would like an explanation, and preferably an apology. I do not understand your POV problem with lists of galleries or affiliated artists being added to this article years ago by someone with an interest, since your complaint seems to be about formatting and use of references, rather than the accuracy or notability of the information. I do not understand your NPOV point about the article "promote and raise the profile of A&L". Are you suggesting that this very short and almost empty article is too big for England's only conceptual art group? Do you want me to wait until you add NPOV with sourced descriptions of the artist as unimportant, insignificant, irrelevant before removing the COI tag? Are you, as an American, qualified to judge the importance of this article to English art history? Regarding "promotional links" surely the Artist's representative gallery deserves a link, and it was a mistake to remove this link. Please reinstate it, or provide a rationale for omitting it.
1094:*The Coen Brothers is an excellent example for NOT merging. Art & Language was a collaborative group of individuals - that is parallel to the Coen Brothers. Art-Language is a thing - a print publication. And that publication was only associated with Art & Language the colab group for 7 of its 20 year run. The other 13 years it was edited and run by people outside of the A&L group. So to compare this situation to the Coen Brothers is like saying "merge the Quay Brothers into the Film Magazine article" (if there were one). It simply does not make sense. The majority of the years A-L was published, it was NOT a project of A&L. What may be confusing to the OP is that the names are similar. Both articles can be cleaned up but that is not a reason to merge. 1961:- please explain your complaint. If you look at policy it clearly states that tags should not be used as a badge of shame. For many years the article had 3 tags pointing out the obvious, with repetition. I do not understand, or appreciate, why quoting wikipedia policy makes you suspect a COI, nor do I understand why thinking that the article is short and bad, and adding all the available images from wikicommons should make you suspect it. I have been editing subjects including art and terrorism for over 10 years. I have consistently asked for an understandable justification for maintaining the tag, and I think you owe me an apology because, rather than explain your reason for keeping the tag, you attack me. As far as I can understand you are an admin." 1824:- please explain your complaint. If you look at policy it clearly states that tags should not be used as a badge of shame. For many years the article had 3 tags pointing out the obvious, with repetition. I do not understand, or appreciate, why quoting wikipedia policy makes you suspect a COI, nor do I understand why thinking that the article is short and bad, and adding all the available images from wikicommons should make you suspect it. I have been editing subjects including art and terrorism for over 10 years. I have consistently asked for an understandable justification for maintaining the tag, and I think you owe me an apology because, rather than explain your reason for keeping the tag, you attack me. As far as I can understand you are an admin. 586:
important as Paul Dirac. I'm not comparing Art Language's contribution to that of quantum mechanics or cricket. Nor am I comparing Michael Baldwin, Mel Ramsden and Charles Harrison to Paul Dirac. Rather (if this isn't too big a word for you) it was a metaphor, serving to highlight the absurd skew in the article. The thinly veiled - and moderately juvenile - attempts to radicalize and politicize the ex-members reeks of a desperate need to make them sound more important than they really are. I'm sorry for whoever you are, but please stop editing this article, and find a more constructive way to make yourself feel important, and please contain your slightly priapic relationship with Jerry Saltz's crtiticism.
1077:. They don't discuss the Coen brothers and the overlap between the biographical article and the movie article is minimal. Now have a look at these two articles. Both are relatively short (not something you can say about the Coen brothers bio and the articles on their movies) and their is a huge overlap in content. That the magazine and the movement somewhat split ways is not a problem, the article on the brothers also discusses their solo work. The question here is not whether the magazine or the group are notable or not. It's whether it is useful to have two separate articles on subjects that are intricately intertwined and hugely overlap (and that overlap cannot be reduced either). -- 1741:. Extensive lists of permanent collections and affiliated artists serves to promote and raise the profile of A&L, which is not what this project is for. The tag is not a badge of shame, it's showing that the issues have not been addressed and is something the reader should be aware of. When they finish their cleanup, Netherzone or other unaffiliated editors may opt to remove the tag. If you have a conflict of interest with regard to A&L, you really need to disclose it @ 995:(didn't I sit behind you in homeroom?). I'm not an expert on these topic, but upon skimming the pages the magazine seems quite notable, as does the group. If the lede of the magazine page is to be believed then its influence is historically important and seemingly worthy of its own article. Yes, on a quick read I can see that both articles need work, and will help putter around in them now and then in the short-run, if just to get a mental map of the subjects. 1799:). I have done nothing that merits issuing you an apology. There are no expert editors and every single one of us is qualified to provide an opinion on an article, it's contents and its sourcing. Your conduct, persistent interest in removing what you believe to be a "badge of shame", concern about the size makes me think yes, you have a conflict here. I'm going to be offline for several hours but will come back to this later today. 1513:
these should be sourced for verification. The COI template should remain until that specific matter is fully resolved. BTW, I have been familiar with the works of Art & Language since the 1970s and it is a shame this article has been in such dismal shape since at least 2009. Moving forward, please only add content that is sourced to secondary, verifiable, reliable sources that are fully independent of the subject. Thank you.
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removing the tag. You still haven't explained them properly. What do you want changed in the article to remove the tag? You have already added "unsourced content", and "insufficient references" - how does this tag help? As far as I can see it is simply duplication, and I'm not sure it is true or relevant - when did this happen? What BLP violations are you talking about?
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that already has commercial issues only because they represent the artist makes little sense, if any at all. It seems, L'Origine du monde, that you might need to do more research before making any more suggestions of this nature and you should seriously rethink the way you interact with other editors. The way you're arguing here is the opposite of
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production in 19 numbers and to compare with the Coen brothers wikipedia should have one article dedicated to each number of the journal as every single one is a significant release of a significant artist work. I am interested to know where you did read on wikipedia that the length of an article was a quality criteria? --
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I cannot see the redacted edits, and I don't have time right now to go further back through article history, but feel strongly that it is not necessary to add this information about Lisson Gallery since there is a clear financial link between Lisson Gallery and Art & Language and their associated
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please explain what BLP violations you are talking about, and what exactly you want changed to remove the COI tag, with no information from you about that here it is impossible to understand your desires. Judging from your comments on my talk page, the editor in question last edited this page 3 years
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I clearly stated in my edit summary "Removed COI tag because not properly explained on talk page - no editor identified, and editor who added the tag is not discussing his addition." There is no information on this page to support your claims, and I asked you to explain them, and waited a week before
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I have faith in any editor to make changes to the article without my supervision. Make sure that the material you are putting in is properly sourced, be bold and have at it. If you don't know how to use the inline references to reference items, you can either stop by my talk page and I can give you
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Syrthiss: could you please tell me how to go about making serious, constructive changes to this article? Do I really need to list the problems one by one, or can I provide a new, more accurate text? While I am willing, if I absolutely have to, to go through each of the problems with you, there are so
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you have not explained how NPOV has been violated. Please explain what POV you think has been promoted by COI editors and what work is needed. The tag is basically useless without a clear description of problems with the article, and I do not understand why you won't give one other than past members
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COI: the article has been heavily edited by single purpose editors, editors who never responded to COI inquiries nor made a disclosure, editors adding COPYVIO material, SPA editor adding huge listings of works held by the collector and who owns the museum whose primary function is to house Art &
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are these the same blocks of text that have been tagged with citation needed tags? Guidelines clearly say "Redundant issues: Please do not insert tags that are too similar to or redundant with each other. " Why do you want to add another tag? Please explain above what changes you want to the article
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It is indeed an excellent example for Not merging. We already went through this as a discussion and you are very welcome to expand both of them. The fact is that Art & Language is an artist group and Art-Language is a body of work produced by Art & Language. The journal span over 20 years of
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yes, as you can see from my successful un-block request on my talk page, or my edits over the last 14 years, I am interested in this article. I don't understand why it is so hard to edit it. Do you accept the two sources I gave above? Could you reinstate the information about their gallery based on
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I believe tags need to be justified if challenged, and not used as a badge of shame - do you disagree? I clearly explained that I removed the tags because they were unexplained and unjustified. What are ELs, and how do artist lists relate to NPOV? Neither you nor Netherzone have explained what POV
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who added large amounts of unsourced content failed to ever respond to the COI notification on their user page, thus the COI issues are NOT resolved. If you examine the article history, you will see that I have extensively worked on the article, and have cleaned up some, but not all of the problems
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has pushed this inclusion without providing any further background, when in fact they could have put together some potentially valuable edits about exhibitions of Art&Language at Lisson held during the 1970s and 1980s to help expand the article. But inserting gallery name name into the article
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fix the issue is to add properly formatted citations to reliable sources (like the museum collection entries themselves. I've started to do those searches at my own reasonable pace. The maintenance tag should not be removed until all the entries are sourced, and if some of them are not verifiable,
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I see no justification for the tag in that text. Please can you make your reasoning more transparent. I do not understand your, or Netherzone's unpleasant suggestions that I am doing "promotional editing" or have some undisclosed COI. What exactly leads you to making this unpleasant insinuation? I
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I have already provided justifications several times on the Art & Language article talk page and in my edit summaries. Just because you don't agree with those justifications is not a reason for you to bludgeon the process. If you would kindly look through the article history (which I have also
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In the spirit of encouraging dialogue: IP address, I don't understand why you think Baldwin and Ramsden are excluded in the article. They are mentioned throughout. You say there are absurdities in the article. Please state here on the talkpage what specifically you want changed and we can consider
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please explain what problems you have identified with the very short text other than "citations needed" for the sections on "Past members and associates", and "Permanent collections" these should be sourced for verification ". I can't see any NPOV issues in the text - please explain why you have
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I have removed the unsourced content and/or original research that has been unsourced for years, and removed the maintenance tags for footnotes and original research. I added two inline hatnotes for "citations needed" for the sections on "Past members and associates", and "Permanent collections"
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As a person with an interest in art history I have problems with this page: it is utterly incoherent, and it is totally inaccurate. For example, there is a less than subtle attempt to exclude the founding member, Michael Baldwin, and the current member, Mel Ramsden. This is merely to serve as an
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the article has been heavily edited by single purpose editors, editors who never responded to COI inquiries nor made a disclosure, editors adding COPYVIO material, SPA editor adding huge listings of works held by the collector and who owns the museum whose primary function is to house Art &
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they are represented by Lisson Gallery. This is true, and important, and the link is to their official page on that gallery's website, as discussed in the previous section links to official websites are allowed. Why are you opposed to the article mentioning that there is a clear financial link
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I would like to wade in with an opinion on this confusion, even if it is two years too late. The entire article reads like a discussion of Australian cricket in the thirties which is desperate to ignore Donald Bradman; it's like a description of quantum mechanics acknowledging Enrico Fermi as
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you're edit warring, and because you think you're "right" doesn't give you license to do so. I'm not going to template warn you as you've been here long enough to know better than this. Speaking as someone who edits in art related articles, this one needs a major haircut to even approach NPOV
1470:, please stop removing the COI maintenance tag without resolving the issuesit has been removed three times now. The last time you did so, you stated that there was no justification for it, this is incorrect. The COI issues are not resolved, the justification is above on this talk page stating 1362:
that's a start. Please explain what exactly is wrong with the article now, and ideally fix it. Which major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject, and which edits? Presumably the copyvio stuff isn't there any more? Where do you get the info about
1150:- The articles should remain as two distinct articles. After 1972 the group Art & Language was no longer so directly involved with the publication Art-Language. It was primarily a stand-alone publication from 1972 to 1985 when publication ceased. That is 13 years of its 20-year run. 937:. Both articles have a lot of overlap in contents, even using the same image. The difference between the two (& vs -) is a bit too subtle for me, and also for the average reader, I assume. Merging the two will provide for a more complete and coherent article than the current two. -- 1959:" I do not understand your problem with lists of galleries or affiliated artists being added to this article years ago by someone with an interest, since your complaint seems to be about formatting and use of references, rather than the accuracy or notability of the information." 1822:" I do not understand your problem with lists of galleries or affiliated artists being added to this article years ago by someone with an interest, since your complaint seems to be about formatting and use of references, rather than the accuracy or notability of the information." 569:
While I appreciate your grasp of big words, if you can cite specific examples where the text is wrong...with references to why it is wrong...I'm sure that the article can be improved. Otherwise I expect the wall of text will continue to be reverted for the referenced text.
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I don't understand why you claim that. If you look at a musical artist their label is normally mentioned. The artists are represented by the gallery, and reliable sources support that. Their official site is hosted by the gallery- do you agree that it should be linked
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I have removed the tag, because as far as I can see there is now nothing wrong with the article in terms of NPOV or BLP, and everything seems sourced. Please do not reinstate the tag without an explanation of what is now biased in the article/wrong with it because of
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Maintenance tags were boldly removed without resolving the underlying issues. The tags were then restored and were removed again in an edit-war manner without starting a discussion here nor resolving the issues; additionally more unsourced material was added.
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I have turned the long list of artists into a short paragraph, and collapsed the list of collections that holds the work. Please can we now remove the tag, or explain to me why it is important that some of the collections that do hold the work are not properly
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the tag you added said "It may require cleanup to comply with Knowledge's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page" please can you explain what clean up is needed, and how the article now deviates from
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The Coen brothers is indeed a great example against the merging as each one of their films have a separate article. Art & Language is the name of the artists (Coen brothers) and Art-Language is the name of a work of them (The Big Lebowsky for
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many that we are likely to be here for a very long time indeed. It seems odd to me that you would view a text as in some way 'superior' or appropriate - or indeed more coherently encyclopedic - simply because it was posted on here first.
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It is indeed an excellent example, but for merging. Have a look at the actual articles. The article on the Coen brothers mentions their movies, but doesn't give much detail on those. The individual movies have detailed articles
1233:- The journal is a monumental work of art for the conceptual art, therefore the article should be kept. Anyway, what the two articles describe are two distinct things (artist group & journal), just with the similar names.-- 1668:
added this tag saying " It may require cleanup to comply with Knowledge's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page". It isn't needed if there are no problems with the text.
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While there is nothing fundamentally wrong with mentioning gallery representation of a contemporary artist, any such inclusion should make sense within the context of the article and contribute to encyclopedic purpose as
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Ethicoaestheticist: I am already tired of trying to correct your text. I have no desire to list its absurd misapprehensions, omissions and oversights. It is simultaneously provincial and tendentious. In a word: goofy.
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They are important, but they work in the system, and make money too, and it seems strange to want to point out that the gallery is editing the article, but avoid naming the gallery. Official links are allowed.
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I have changed my position on this and think the two articles can successfully be merged. I misunderstood something I read about the magazine editorial staff changes, and retract my previous comments on this.
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is being pushed in the article, and I can't see a POV reading the article, please explain it to me in words. Do you also see the BLP issues that netherzone identified, but refuses to explain. Best wishes
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Re: the short paragraph of associated members - I think the short paragraph works very well however the formatting needs adjusting: the citations should go after the punctuation (commas), not before.
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Both articles are currently in a deplorable state. If some of the fluff is cut away, I don't see why the magazine, the movement's mouthpiece, could not be a section in the article on the movement. --
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regardless of whether the editors at issue are still actively editing. Among the issues I see, unsourced and red linked artist lists and ELs mixed in where there should be reliable references.
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IMO, the referenced and wiki'ed version is superior. There's been no mention of the sources for the current, and no communication from the new accounts who changed it so I'm going to revert.
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Sorry, I see that past members and collections lack citations. I do not see how this violates NPOV - please explain. I don't think that justifies keeping the COI- please explain why it does.
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yet. The unsourced content added by the COI SPA involves living persons and is thus also a BLP violation. Please stop edit warring over the maintenance tag, and try to develop patience.
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Based on the syntax, I am not certain if Philip Pilkington and David Rushton are both from Coventry, or Phillip is the only one. Also, a link to what Coventry is would be appreciated.
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Template:More footnotes needed instead of Citations needed for verification. This is the template that was there before, and seems appropriate given number of references and OR tag.
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are you sure that COI is the right maintenence tag for this situation? I don't think that it is intended to for this, and it doesn't read as though it is intended for it either.
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artists. This seems like promotional and possible COI editing. I think the edit about Lisson Gallery should be removed because the encyclopedia is not a venue for advertising.
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where the links tell nothing about A&L's significance. They should be wiki linked to the institution and verified to their collection via proper referencing, such as NZ
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example of the absurdities which are, unfortunately, persistent throughout the article (there are countless and less trivial examples)... I hope they will be addressed.
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why not? Are you claiming it isn't notable? Lisson has been their gallery for a long time. The gallery has their official website which should certainly be linked to.
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need to include a free advertisment for their gallery. The encyclopedic importance of their work is their art historical signifcance, that is why they are notable -
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there are multiple claims, statements, and “facts” throughout the article, including multiple paragraphs, lists of artists and collections without proper sourcing.
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They look possible, but not required unless they report with significant coverage, it just looks like spam, Knowledge doesn't usually mention galleries like this.
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some examples or you can just place whatever reference text in parenthesis after the text it is supporting and someone can fix the markup later. Hope this helps.
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is a key policy of the encyclopedia. Shuttering unsourced material within a collapsed container does not fix the issue that the collections are unsourced. What
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You appear to be heavily invested in this article, if you have a reliable, independent source then it could be added, but I don't see it as being essential.
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I have explained it will take time to go through several years of edits by connected editors. Do not remove the template again without fixing the issues.
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Art & Language stands on its art historical importance as a key conceptual art collective of the late 20th century. Their Knowledge article does
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I agree with your actions here. If an independent reliable source discussed Lisson's representation of A&L, it might make sense.
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This is an encyclopedia article. References good. Dumping exhaustive lists of exhibitions/awards etc. and removing references bad.--
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This is true, and important, so I added it to the lede. I think their gallery's website is a reasonable source for this info.
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Today User:L’Origine du monde added, “They are represented by the Lisson Gallery” with a link to the gallery website.
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them? Do you agree that there should be a link to their gallery's official page about them at the end of the article?
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please reply. As I wrote 2 days ago, "Surely that is an official link therefore allowed by the policy you linked to
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ago, but perhaps I am mistaken. It is not clear from looking at the edit history what you mean, please elaborate.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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because you had pinged me in multiple venues despite my asking you not to do that. Here is what I wrote there:
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COI tag removed, since you failed to justify it, and there is no other mention of it on this talk page.
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merge on the grounds of independent notability and distinct scope, but to disambiguate with hatnotes.
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The gallery may be notable but the fact they represent Art & Language isn't necessarily notable.
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The maintenance tags will be restored. Please do not remove them again without resolving the issues.
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this is obvious per the two issues above - have removed due to being obvious per the other two tags.
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what is important is their art historical value, not their market value or where to buy their work.
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to remove the COI tag you added earlier. Remember that a tag is not intended as a badge of shame.
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and I both believe you're heavily invested in this article and yet you have not disclosed.
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Oh well, guess I'll be back by on monday to revert from your unformatted mess. Cheerio.
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and collections lack citations- the significance of which to NPOV I don't understand.
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You have removed it four times in a little over a week without resolving the issues.
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Surely that is an official link therefore allowed by the policy you linked to
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To include a link to their commercial-market showplace is promotionalism.
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I am proposing to merge the current article with the one on the magazine,
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Contemporary Art
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Visual arts
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