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Karunakar Gupta is referring to. But it wasn't simply a matter of removing "border undefined". There was refinement. For example, the colour wash seems to go all the way to
Shahidulla in the north but the 1954 border was along the Aghill-Mustagh-Karakash-Kuenline line that Narayan Rao mentions. Similarly the Demchok sector, Chumar sector (where the border was retracted from Chepzi), Kaurik area in HP, Neelang etc. in Uttarkhand etc. also got defined in the 1954 map. If India had extended its administration to any places that were not in India's jurisdiction earlier, there should have been complaints. But we don't see any. (Demchok, i.e., the
789:, returned from London where he had been studying the basis of India’s claims in British archives. Gopal thought that India had a sound historical case for Aksai Chin and conveyed it to Nehru; but it was only in February 1960 that Gopal took Nehru through all the evidence and finally convinced him that India’s claims to Aksai Chin were strong. The available evidence suggests that until this point Nehru was thinking of Aksai Chin as a bargaining counter. As R.K. Nehru recalled, “until 1960, we ourselves were not sure that the territory belonged to us and we were thinking in terms of giving up our claims as part of a satisfactory settlement.”
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752:. These assertions must remain speculative so long as independent scholars do not have ready access to the records of that period in Government of India archives. But scholarly opinion is supportive in a general way. Alastair Lamb, for example, reports that after World War I British-India emerged with an Ardagh-Johnson boundary so far as the Aksai Chin was concerned.
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help to acquire the northern border. It is possible that the eastern border was a surprise to him, because nobody would have ventured into that barren country before. But since it is barren country, the actual gain from it was very little. So, I can't understand how people can talk as if the
Maharaja had bribed Johnson to create an "extended boundary" for him.
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pressure of parliamentary and public opinion. At this juncture the director of the MEA’s historical division,Sarvepalli Gopal, returned from London where he had been studying the basis of India’s claims in
British archives ... The available evidence suggests that until this point Nehru was thinking of Aksai Chin as a bargaining counter.
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If he is talking about 1954 instead, why isn't it an acceptable explanation to regard the 1954 map as a cleaned-up version of 1947? It wasn't anything extraordinary. Practically all the maps of India we have available on the
Commons or elsewhere on the web include Aksai Chin. Why does any one need to
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Zhou insisted that the whole border had never been formally delimited, but indicated that China might accept its run in the east. In return, Nehru claimed that the McMahon Line followed the
Himalayan watershed, referred to treaties from the 19th century, and demanded a withdrawal of forces from Aksai
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So an article on Ardagh-Johnson has to squarely deal with the imperialist politics of the 19th and early 20th centuries, especially why
Shahidulla was given away etc. I really don't have an interest in doing that right now. The modern Indian history that I covered above can only be the postscript for
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Raghav Sharan Sharma who has actively taken part in militant kisan movements, has written and edited several books such as Indo-China
Rivalry; Naxal Movement; Collected Works of Swami Sahajanand; India's War of Independence through Kisan Documents, among others. He is at present President of the All
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To cap it all, the April 1960 visit of the
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Nehru’s proposals indicated a gradual hardening of India’s stance on Aksai Chin. Hitherto, he had openly voiced his doubts about the strength of India’s claims. After the clash at Kongka Pass, Nehru was disinclined to concede anything to China under duress. This attitude was bolstered by the growing
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This line is what is represented in independent India's border. Note the trailing "Kuen Lun", which means Aksai Chin was included in India. This line was developed in response to Ardagh's proposal (which I still can't figure out in precise detail). So I think
Hoffman is justified in summarising this
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Alastair Lamb was the first to rant about
Johnson and later it turned into an industry to rant about him. But there is nothing in reliable sources that shows anything. As far as I can see, he was just a regular old surveyor who did what he was told to do. His mandate was to survey up to the "Chinese
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May I suggest the following way to move forward: Let's delete all the dubious and uncertain content in this article, and only keep what we know to be reliable facts. Let's keep all the hoopla about Johnson to the absolute minimum, and focus on the Ardagh-Johnson line and its relevance or irrelevance
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about the 1954 border and he expected that it may need revision. Srinath Raghavan discusses this at length. "Not open to discussion with anybody" means precisely that he didn't regard it as bargaining position, but he was willing to revise it if the facts proved it wrong. In 1960, S. Gopal convince
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Parshotam Mehra's big point is that the MacDonald Line was a quid-pro-quo arrangement. The British were ceding the eastern part of Aksai Chin in return for China relinquishing suzerainty over Hunza. If that is so, then in the 1930s the British forced Hunza to snap all ties to China (ROC now). So we
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The problem for Lamb and company is not that he drew a line, but rather that the (British) Government of India accepted that line as the border. Since they can't rant about the Government, they rant about him. As far as I am concerned, even naming this line as a "Johnson Line" is POV. It was really
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is more troubling. Moorcroft travelled in Ladakh in 1820s when it was still independent, and he believed that Demchok "belongs to Gartok". So, this got reflected in the 1837 map, and despite the Boundary Commission including it in Ladakh, they removed it later. Far from being a precise and accurate
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It is bordered by the Changchenmo valley in the south (already surveyed by plenty of other teams including Johnson and Goodwin-Austen), and by the Kun Lun mountains in the north. Once these two are fixed, you have the Aksain Chin plains in the middle with a bunch of lakes, with streams flowing into
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By the way, right now, I am working on the Demchok sector, which is in my view, much more important than Aksai Chin. People live there, and it is the route to Kailas-Manasarovar. It has a thousand years of history. And all our maps don't even mark the line of control there. Nobody knows its status.
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So, if the perception is that 'Johnson proposed something stupid, and independent India blindly adopted that', or 'India used so-and-so line to fix its border', then this is the place to state the facts that India did not base its border upon this line, and that India's border is different from the
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Between the 1947 and 1954 maps displayed here, there was another issued in 1950, which was similar to the 1947 map, but had "boundary undefined" written for the western and middle sectors, and arrow marks indicating undemarcated (possibly) for some of the places in the eastern sector. This is what
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to independent India's border claim. I am not at all interested in propagating any neo-imperialist views, but these views do exist in readers' minds, and we have to deal with them. By saying 'deal with them', I mean that we have to state the correct facts which may be counter to popular perception.
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Since 1945, however, though the North and Eastern boundary of Kashmir were shown as 'Undefined', an attempt was made by means of a colour-wash to convey a vague idea of the North and Eastern boundaries of Kashmir, more or less in conformity with the Ardagh line in the region east of the Karakoram
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The Survey of India maps published in the 1920s and 1930s did not indicate any boundary alignment or show any color difference in this area, and wide spaces between Kashmir and Xinjiang and between Kashmir and Tibet were shown blank. In 1945, under the guidance of Olaf Caroe, Foreign Secretary of
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Secondly, Shahidulla, which is at the foot of Kun Lun mountains was already under the control of Kashmir. According to Parshotam Mehra, the Dogras took control of Shahidulla as soon as they conquered Ladakh (even before the British were involved). So, the Maharaja of Kashmir didn't need Johnson's
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It seems to me that there are two strategies to proceed with: one is that we remove all the problematic content from all the articles and bring them here and trim and work on them. This would require more effort. The second is that we build from scratch and keep only good, well-sourced content on
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In 1938. the British and Chinese representatives discussed the border incidents in Kashgar. Chinese representative General Jiang was said to mention the 1899 boundary proposal, and he did not recognize the proposed line as a valid border definition. However, he indicated that the Chinese did not
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I can agree only if the content is drastically improved. It is one thing for lousy content to be buried somewhere in a humongous article, and it is another thing to highlight it as an independent article on its own. That is why I recommend draftifying it and improving it before putting it up for
1870:, where Nehru was clear about his position. Trading eastern Aksai Chin for Tawang was eminently reasonable, and I don't think that would have escaped his mind. But Karunakar Gupta is stretching the point by suggesting that it was included just to facilitate such a trade. Aksai Chin got included
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To the south of Changchenmo, it seems that he was told where he had to survey up to. In other words, somebody higher up decided the border and gave instructions. His map and the SoI map show exactly the same border for these regions. In most cases, they moved in the negative direction. In other
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The Macartney-MacDonald Line is based on a different principle, which is to use the water-parting line of the Indus waters and the Tarim basin waters. On the face of it, there is nothing unreasonable about this line either. The choice between the two boils down to a political issue. Just as the
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Look, Johnson is entirely irrelevant. India never claimed that it was using Johnson Line or any other line. India only said, "these are our borders" based on the local knowledge they had. Had Britain established an agreed border with China, India would have stuck to it. If they hadn't, whatever
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Moreover, you have copied here the same dubious content that I had tagged as being POV based unreliable sources (like Gurswamy, Calvin etc.) We don't want problematic content copied and duplicated all over Knowledge (XXG). I suggest you draftify it and work on improving the content using better
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and then have to read that lousy content. The understanding of what I think is the vast majority of people, is that Johnson proposed some 'absurd' boundary, and independent India claims that same boundary as it's border. That, of course, is far from the truth, but I don't think that one could
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Pass. (This change was apparently made at the initiative of Olaf Caroe...)In the new map of India issued in July 1954, the words 'Boundary Undefined' were erased, and by this simple process, the Survey of India maps laid claim to a boundary alignment of Kashmir east of the Karakoram Pass
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A few in mainstream press have opined of Johnson and Maharaja to have engaged in some kind of nexus (Johnson was a colorful character, about which little is mentioned in our article - probably because they need to be sourced to primary reports) but that seems quite unlikely to me.
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After the Chinese built the road through Aksai Chin in 1957 or so, it definitely became a bargaining counter, because the strategic value of the area to China was now enormously more than anything India could possibly do with it. But we can't put the cart before the horse. --
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the MacDonald Line was the border. This is not explicitly stated by anyone other than Karackattu (2017). There exists enough evidence that cartographic presentations in publications, which were vetted by the government, were similar to the Macdonald line. Till Zhou Enlai's
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The first edition of the Survery of India map (which you find on the cover of Gardner's book) was made in 1938. Since this map didn't show any border, we have to say that the British hadn't committed to the MacDonald Line. But nevertheless, the MacDonald Line was now the
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In terms of the British Indian government thinking, the key is the fate of the MacDonald line. This line was alive till 1912 (it was being modified till then). The 1914 Simla Convention map suggests that the British still had it in play (even though the Qing dynasty was
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1837 was just three years after Zorawar Singh's first campaign to Ladakh, when they were still part of the Sikh Empire. The British were no where in Kashmir by then. As far as I know this is the first time Kashmir had appeared in British maps. Two things worth noting:
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That same year the government of India revised its official maps that showed “undemarcated” or “undefined” borders in Ladakh to draw a definite border, a composite of the Johnson Line of 1865 and the 1899 Macartney–MacDonald Line, based on no additional surveying or
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I am afraid I was wrong about this. This was map drawn in 1908 about the purported situation in 1837. So it incorporates the knowledge and decisions made until 1908, in particular the exclusion of Demchok. Aksai Chin would have been "terra incognita" in 1837. --
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So the British implicitly knew that the northern border was along the Kuen Lun range, and also knew that Aksai Chin was part of Ladakh. This puts paid to Alastair Lamb's contentions that the Johnson added thousands of square miles to the Maharaja's territory.
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On the other hand, even though India did not base its border in this area upon the Ardagh-Johnson line, understanding the basis behind and the development of this line is still important in order to understand how independent India fixed it's border in this
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can expect that the ROC now assumed the MacDonald Line to be the border. Indeed, that is what the ROC maps show from 1930 onwards. Moreover, ROC also made plans to lay the Aksai Chin road through there (even though they didn't have the resources to do it).
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No, it doesn't work like that. The above discussion only goes to show that India's border is not Ardagh-Johnson, at least it does not derive from Ardagh-Johnson. You cannot write an article based on what something is not. You can only write it based on
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So the two parts of the border were treated differently. Where there was an agreed border (McMahon Line), India followed it. In other places, it didn't. Only after India convinced itself of the "long usage and custom" in Ladakh did it fix the border.
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I don't think Hoffman is well-versed in history (e.g., the decision to give up Shahidulla was sealed by 1892, not 1927), but he is at least able to present Lamb's historical observations filtering out the "neo-imperialist" polemics that go with them.
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even the BI Govt.? He made out his case that it was not Ardagh which came to be accepted by Independent India but a version derived from MacDonald. The BI Govt. had tried to go back to Ardagh in the 1910s with some zeal but they remained unexecuted
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British gave away Shahidulla on political grounds, they were also prepared to give away the northern Aksai Chin. If the Chinese negotiated in good faith, there is a good chance that Indians would have agreed to it. G. F. Hudson writes:
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is an academic publisher and quite reputed at that. It is not hard to speculate that they employed suitable peer-reviewers, on deciding to co-publish Sharma's work with Manohar. Which is another publication-house of national repute.
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An Indian scholar who helped devise the official view of the Nehru government after independence has argued that, during the last two decades of British-India, a version of the Ardagh-Johnson line came to be accepted as a matter of
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imperialist ruminations they might have had were entirely irrelevant to India. You are just madly chasing neo-imperialist commentators, who are annoyed that India didn't follow their imperialist policies. You need to junk them. --
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Kautilya3, I agree with your comments above. The only thing I would add is that even though the modern Indian border is not central to this article, I think that it's important to mention and clarify that to a reasonable
811:, thank you for your commitment to accuracy and to resist any distortion of history. This excellent explanation that you have presented in your reply above is part of what I think we must try to explain in this article.
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No, Hoffmann is not misinterpreting him. He says he "no longer believes" that the Ardagh-Johnson line was followed by British India. The citation he gives is an interview in 1989. So this is not based on Lamb's public
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is applicable. In a highly controversial domain, where there are multiple conflicting schools of thought, we cannot ignore random scholars (Gupta, Maxwell and others) simply because they are contradicted by
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No, I don't think this topic exists. Johnson's was an early survey (with significant limitations), which basically said this is where Kashmir's boundaries are. Even calling it a "Johnson Line" is a misnomer.
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but it preferred to present India with a fait accompli by surreptitious construction of the road and after the inevitable disclosure to behave with a peremptory arrogance incompatible with any peaceful
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Before the British left India, the British-Indian government had shown no boundary at all in that area on its official maps. In Volume XIl of Aitchison's Treaties published in 1931, it was stated that
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Was he right about this? Nobody knows. As Hoffman remarks, those records are not available to the independent scholars yet. So, Liu, Karunakar Gupta and Noorani all go into the "speculative" camp. --
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Johnson line. Otherwise, a reader would read the section about the Johnson line in any other article and go away without being wisened to the fact that this is not really the basis of India's border.
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How is that relevant? "Cartographic aggression" is a commonly (ab)used term and it does not necessarily include setting up posts on claimed areas. On a related issue, there has been scholarship on
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In international disputes of this kind, all kinds of views would be floating around. We need to stick to facts first, and use views sparingly when they are useful for summarising information.
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McMahon. The latter was a no-go territory. If you are considering the 1960 summit, Nehru was already convinced by S. Gopal and PRC had lost all trust of Delhi. Raghavan (2010; p.260) notes
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agree to negotiate the 1899 border proposal, mainly because they did not want to accept the British annexation of Hunza, not because they disagreed with the proposed boundary alignment.
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The study of Survey of India maps published in the early 1930s reveals that: (1) All political maps of India before 1954 showed the Northern Boundary extending from Kashmir to Nepal as
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have the same sizeable section about the Johnson Line but I feel that they still didn't do justice to the topic. For instance, here are some aspects that are not explained properly:
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Alastair Lamb is not right in asserting that ‘at the end’ of the First World War British India emerged with the Ardagh boundary, as defined in the 1912 telegram quoted above, "
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up to which alone de facto occupation now extended and to the south of which the Chinese had been unable to encroach ever since the adoption of their forward policy in 1890.
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PRC also acted as if the MacDonald Line was the border. Their 1956 claim line is effectively the MacDonald Line (though it advanced to Kongka La in the Chang Chenmo Valley).
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them from the Kun Lun mountains and other little hills and mountains within Aksai Chin. Johnson put his boundary on the watershed of these streams. This is perfectly the
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And also, for anybody that knows the history of Ladakh, it is as plain as white snow that Ladakh's northern border has always been the Kuen Lun rang. See the new page on
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If you agree, what I propose is, that we can remove all the duplicated and dubious content related to the Johnson-Ardagh Line from articles (I think that it's mainly in
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The importance of Shahidulla (and one or two adjacent factors) need to be discussed in depth. To situate the context in which Akshai Chin was marked.
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any surveyor would do. So, all this criticism of Johnson, which even D. K. Palit parrots, is just politically motivated mumbo-jumbo.
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At the end of the First World War, therefore, India emerged not with the Ardagh line as Lamb (p. 110) has supposed but with the
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This is what I found to be misinterpreted by Hoffmann in his 1987 paper. More later.
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Further, you are robbing Raghavan of much nuance. Raghavan (2006; p. 3889) notes
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Where does Narayana Rao state that Ardagh was accepted by China/ROI
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I have no problem with renaming the article as 'Johnson–Ardagh Line'
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I don't really find him to be stretching the point.
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892:discovering
30:Start-class
2317:Categories
2305:, pp. 84–.
2260:References
2240:frontier "
1948:as well as
1473:commentary
1404:References
1338:References
1243:Shahidulla
994:References
965:settlement
854:what it is
692:Aksai Chin
656:Sanju Pass
652:Shahidulla
601:References
554:Aksai Chin
483:Aksai Chin
304:South Asia
299:South Asia
271:South Asia
2286:, p. 160.
2246:Kautilya3
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2099:Routledge
2074:Kautilya3
2070:WP:HISTRS
2039:undefined
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1993:Kautilya3
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2274:, p. 13.
2238:northern
1826:I think
1586:de facto
1299:negative
1088:25203193
1041:, p. 235
615:, p. 12.
535:sources.
1387:Gardner
909:extent.
829:region.
748:policy.
436:on the
331:on the
246:on the
141:on the
1617:plans.
1576:gone).
1524:notes
945:Maryul
888:Maryul
633:entire
477:Hello
36:scale.
2072:? --
1633:as if
1520:Hmm.
1085:JSTOR
872:. --
219:China
210:China
166:China
114:India
103:India
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