Talk:Ashleigh Barty/Archive 1

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post-graduate degree in areas that qualify me to have a stronger formal opinion I have SOME but not all of the understanding of the issue I am not a self-identified person in this case. I don't profess to understand the issue from their perspective in full. What I DO understand is that the NEUTRAL term for an Indigenous, Aboriginal, Torres Strait Islander or South Sea Islander is all of the aforementioned. As a self-identified Indigenous person Ash Barty SHOULD be identified as such in this article and any other construct is open racism. There is also no "part." The two qualifications that are legally bound in Australia for Indigenous status are self identification and acceptance of self identification by the local indigenous identity grouping in the area. --

4782:? How good is ridiculing my edit with pancake comparisons and still not responding to any of my questions? So be it. Pillar one: wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a sporting almanac. This means that sporting prowess is not the only notable feature. In this case, there are 800,000 Indigenous Australians and they've had two WTA no 1s, there are 4,500,000,000 Asian people and they've had one. Cue all the ridicule and jokey extrapolations of that you can muster, but the fact remains it is a very notable feature, given nobody has yet responded to why Naomi Osaka's Asian heritage is in her 3rd sentence. So kindly please revert to Sportsfan77777's last edit as a compromise, or I will when I can get to a computer. Later... 3177:

Indigenous Australian and the second line says she is an Aboriginal Actress. Ms Dhu is described an Australian Aboriginal woman in the first line - so I am pretty sure you are making up protocols to suit here. Indigenous identity is mentioned in the first line of many - Albert Namatjira, Eddie Mabo, Harold Thomas.. and that is 2 minutes of googling. We are talking about someone's ethnic / cultural identity here - if it is appropriate to call someone Australian then it is equally appropriate to call someone Indigenous Australian. AND AGAIN - IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR NON INDIGENOUS PEOPLE TO POLICE HOW INDIGENOUS PEOPLE IDENTIFY. Do you not understand what I am saying here?

5684:. My counts limit the search to Google's news tab, and "intitle:" ensures it's not just a passing mention. Without intitle it is 3.2:1.4 million Ashleigh:Ash. Your counts aren't limited to news sites, so any blog, forum, etc. is included, which is out of the scope of the initial claim. Limiting to .com.au sites does show that "Ash" is more commonly used in Australia, but that doesn't say much given that using nicknames for everyone (and especially sportspeople) is part of Australian culture. Knowledge is a global encyclopedia, so we should use the 2:1 globally preferred name, not a locally favoured diminutive. It is not similar to 3369:. I think the term "Australian" represents the presiding government. It too could be omitted. But once again I wouldn't favor that. Omitting the term "Australian" from the first sentence of the lede is not utterly unacceptable but I don't recommend it. This is a biography of an accomplished person. If that person takes pride in their Ngarigo identity I think that identity should be prominently stated. But the first sentence of the lede is for such things as reason for notability, date of birth, and the prevailing governmental entity, which in this case is Australia. Also, I've taken the liberty of changing the section heading. 2015:

actually change in the interim period. If a player retires their ranking will be immediately removed and all other players rankings will move accordingly. Drug suspensions can have the same affect. Any other ranking site other than the WTA/ATP/ITF is not official, it would be an unofficial projection. Plus when people start updating before then often the number of weeks they are ranked gets all skewed up by the next person who edits who didn't realize someone updated the rankings prematurely. That is why it makes the most sense to go with the official results. It's easier for everyone.

3277:: Nowhere on the page is she referred to as an Indigenous Australian. If you were an Aboriginal person or sensitive to the issues of Aboriginal Australia you would understand it's notability. But again, you seem to be comfortable making determinations about how Indigenous people should and shouldn't be described. I have opened a dispute over this. I have only just ventured into the world of Knowledge but have learned very quickly that Aboriginal voices are not very important here and that editors have no concept of what is culturally appropriate and are not interested in hearing. ( 4468:

of Barty's indigeneity. This has not been discussed before, if you claim it has please would you show me where? You are a single editor. You do not have consensus on the exact placement of the word 'indigenous' in the article. Objecting to all proposed compromise to raise prominence is not consensus. Knowledge is being pilloried in Australia because of this. Seeing as you have created the comparison with Goolagong Cawley as the benchmark and so far have made nil response to my constructive commentary, I will edit this article similarly to Goolagong Cawley's. Many thanks

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and this is the level of "tribal" association indigenous people have been trying to avoid since Captain Cook got here. Unfortunately, there is no equivalent, I can't just say "you're just a white" to an Anglo-Australian. They won't get it. It's not (generally) offensive. Unfortunately, if you start saying you're just an indigenous person, it can be offensive. But it also depends on the choice of the person of how they identify. So when I see someone say "part" indigenous, I assume a deliberately offensive statement that brings up the

4274:], by saying "I really don't know" you concede the argument. ] offers further examples. I appreciate that there are a lot of specialist tennis editors claiming authority over this article, but the fact is that Ash Barty's notability in Australia is as an indigenous sports star and Aboriginal icon, and the article should reflect that. The cultural erasure of Barty by Knowledge is making national news media at the moment and making Knowledge ridiculous. As a temporary compromise I suggest at the very least adding | ethnicity = 4646:

she is Australian. It's like saying Serena Williams is the 4th black American player to win a Major. That would be fine in her heritage section but in the lead it makes it sound funky. I look at her as American. Maybe Australia is different and they like to enhance the fact that some people are Australians and some are Indigenous Australians. I certainly don't know every country's idiosyncrasies. When she was given her ambassadorship it seemed appropriate for the lead, but otherwise it just seems a little off for me.

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identity which can be different to background or heritage. I have Viking heritage but I don't identify as Viking. She does not need to be recognised by white people as an activist to legitimise this descriptor. The Aboriginal community sees this edit war as blatant racism. It is one word, it is an accurate description of her identity. The people taking it out need to consider why they are so fragile and triggered by it.

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and shared struggles because of their both having native blood, yet that appears unlikely to be the case in reality, both due to the difference in the percentage of native blood and the very long span of years that elapsed since EGC was involved in the sport and the drastic shift in thoughts and attitudes pertaining to race that have occurred over that very long time.

5659:'s counts, when you restrict it to intitle and .com.au, there are 2800 for Ash and 700 for Ashleigh. It's not "just a nickname," it's literally her preferred name, as per her own social media sites. As per the guideline "Knowledge does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used". 2367:

added one. But then to continue talking about the number of children "Tennis NT" hopes to reach and the percentage of the population that's indigenous in the NT, is a bit much imho. That is something for the source to tell us and perhaps a new Knowledge article on the Tennis NT program. I removed this new addition pending discussion. Any other thoughts on this?

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born in the USA. This is one of many examples of indigenous disputed nationhood being recognised as notable by Knowledge editors. I suggest Ash Barty be described as Indigenous Australian in the first sentence or two. Who agrees? Please state your agreement to reverse the false and unrepresentative 'consensus' which is claimed to exist in this matter.

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with the way things are according to Australian conventions as Knowledge does or start a new one through the process I mentioned above. As I have now helped you, I wish you all the success in the world in having your grievances heard but as I said above, but you failed to either see or ignored. My part in this discussion is now closed. --

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Nations people. Australia is just the funny name we came up with for this place we now reside in and what its referenced as by the commonwealth. However their common usage name is recognised by law and by principle in this country and if you want to edit in this space you will submit yourself to the common vernacular of this country.

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Serbian-Canadian type articles around, and it is often a case-by-case type of thing. Because Barty has very recently become the sport's Australian Indigenous Tennis Ambassador, that fact became important to the lead section and was added. Otherwise the details would have remained in the background section.

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She is overwhelmingly referred to as just Ash Barty in the press, and she has made it plain that she prefers Ash to Ashleigh, as is the case with Stan Wawrinka, Coco Gauff, and Dan Evans. However: her name on the ITF and WTA website is still listed as Ashleigh Barty, so that throws a spanner into the

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So it's beyond comprehension how this whole race thing connected to AB is such a big deal when it's unlikely to have affected her life in any way other than positively. For racism (as a minority race) to be a factor in somebody's life, if they physically resemble the majority race, they would have to

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For example it would have been an amazing (and no doubt very mixed emotion) thing for EGC to have been declared an "honorary white" when playing in South Africa in 1972, something that AB would never have experienced anything like, and nor would she have been required or thought of in that regard had

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Again, why shouldn't it be on the first line? Nowhere on the page does it describe her as an Indigenous Australian. Her Nationality is described as Australian. It says her Dad is an Indigenous Australian but that she only has Indigenous heritage. Compare this to Deborah Mailman who is described as an

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to edit here in this space. You also continue to use a highly racialised term. Once again, there is no "part" when describing an Indigenous, Aboriginal, Torres Strait or South Sea Islander self-identifying person and this is both a legal and academic fact. Your failure to address the true and correct

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What the heck does this have to do with the price of eggs? This topic is about the amount of trivial detail on her ambassadorship, not whether she is indigenous. The indigenous fact is in the article multiple times so I have no idea why this is being brought up. Rant somewhere else and keep things on

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Being an indigenous Australian is being an activist. Activism is not a choice for marginalised people. Being a leader is what she is doing - she is a leader on a world stage making an enormous contribution. It is not correct to cite the Sharapova example because Sharapova is not a person marginalised

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Highly notable...I would think not, but it is notable and is in the article. I'm not going to keep arguing the point because it's a minor blip in all the things that have to be edited in tennis articles, but I really think its placement now actually detracts from her as a person and as an Australian

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Thanks Fyunck. A mention in the lead is not prominent if it's 500 words in. Would you please explain why you think a mention in the 18th sentence is prominent? Kindly please respond to my questions above. 90% of people view Knowledge on smartphones requiring metres of scrolling to get to the mentoon

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Barty's is mentioned in the Lead... that is far more prominent. Goolagong's mention that she is from an "Australian Aboriginal family" is in the family section where it is supposed to be. Barty happens to have a larger lead section. Goolagongs lead section should actually be much larger than Barty's

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What the heck are you talking about? The lead already says ""Barty is of Indigenous heritage and serves as the National Indigenous Tennis Ambassador for Tennis Australia." Prose also says her father is "a Ngarigo Indigenous Australian" and her mother is "the daughter of English immigrants." Later in

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This edit war is disgracefully racist. It smacks of white privilege and fragility. Ash identifies as Aboriginal and is acknowledged as such by the community. Her father is described as an Indigenous Australian. Cathy Freeman is described as an Indigenous Australian on her page. It is a way to convey

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and discontinue editing in this space. When it comes to dealing with conventions with self-identified people in Australia context is important and even if you are trying to make an argument you are failing miserably as the lines are blurry with regard to the term they use to self-identify. Given you

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It seems to me that there is a whole bunch of garbage here that is unencyclopedic. Is it the verifiable fact that Ashleigh Barty is an Indigenous Australian? Is it noteworthy? It seems to me we have a mixed bag of things. I will tend to agree with the previous comment that identity from marginalised

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Then her being the National Indigenous Tennis Ambassador should be near the end of the lead, right after her accomplishments over the last two years. Because she is a notable player, they bestowed the title on her and she accepted it very graciously. It's pretty cool but most of that info belongs in

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Also in some sense I feel that the way the ethnicity issue is introduced in the article is actually wishful thinking, because it's presenting AB with EGC as though they are equals because somehow AB may have a drop or two of native blood flowing in her veins... as though they have a shared heritage

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I think it's much better the way we have it now, clumping her aboriginal status with her ambassadorship. We also have to be careful as the term "Indigenous Australian" is offensive to some who would rather use the term aboriginal. I hate making it too in-your-face since it seems to cheapen the fact

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Actually there was consensus. It would usually not be there at all in the lead except that Barty is the indigenous tennis ambassador for Tennis Australia. We agreed on it's placement. I actually think that bookend placements in the lead tend to be more prominent than mid lead. You are also a single

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So would the wikipedia editors who have blocked this please go to the - nearly all of whom have some conjugation of 'Palestinian' in the first sentence - and edit and protect them all? Because Palestine is not a nation. and are described as Paestinian in the first few lines even though they were

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It' the tendentious discussion from the person above. I have also tried to reasonably discuss this issue in relation to their knowledge and behavior elsewhere. Indigenous is a catch-all term but it's also blurry as it runs the risk of the type of groupthink that all "Indigenous" people are the same

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When the person clearly self-identifies as being indigenous and is recognised in her community as indigenous according to the law, and according to her people, this is enough recognition in and of itself to put indigenous when and where it is necessary, and as with everything on Knowledge there can

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We definitely want the fact that Barty has been named National Indigenous Tennis Ambassador in working with Tennis Australia. And adding that the goal of the ambassadorship is to "promote more indigenous participation in the sport of tennis" can work into the article also. There was no source so I

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if it is in the interests of indigenous Australians to place that identity in the first sentence of the biography of a very accomplished Ngarigo Indigenous Australian? The alternative, which is in place now, is to call her simply an Australian. I don't think there is anything terribly offensive in

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to have the policy, and the general opinion of the community, as well as the academic perspective, changed about how indigenous people are referred to start a petition with the Australian government. This is not the forum to have your grievances heard. As this is an Australian article either deal

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them anyway. You see it's all about the precedent of how we speak, in this country, where the article is located, on the precedents of what happens in this country (which is Australia) and the term part anything when it comes to humans is quite offensive due to the longstanding history surrounding

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And what of the individual this article is about? Does she actually want attention called to her race/ethnicity? Does she want that to be what she is defined by, instead of just being recognized as a champion? Or in other words she's not just "a champion" but "an indigenous champion"? Did anybody

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1. For the reasons dicussed above - notability. Evonne Goolagong Cawley's indigeneity is mentioned in the 4th sentence of her article, Barty's in the 18th sentence of her article. Why is Cawley's indigeneity given greater emphasis? Editors have created an extraoridinarily long first parapraph for

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So now we're not only ignoring the fact that this is an Australian English article, we're also ignoring common usage terms. As an IP I honestly can't be bothered finding the appropriate policies here. Even if I did quote them, like most arguments on Knowledge I am going to assume you would ignore

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to discuss this issue without drawing from their personal emotive vocabulary that helps nothing. Knowledge should be about facts, not about being "right." Unfortunately the whole process of being "right" is exactly why I don't have an account here. People push agendas that are emotive rather than

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Despite the vote being more than 2-1 against a move, this is a "no consensus" close and not a "consensus not to move" close. Many of the votes are pure votes, and several of them make claims that are contrary to policy. There is no policy against using nicknames as a title if they are common

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and as with most Australians in the majority perspective in Australia, we really do understand that the sky is blue when it comes to dealing with indigenous people and how they are described in this country (Australia). Inserting an international agenda particularly does not help and I'd like to

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Consensus is not needed on common usage terms... At all, where is, what is, and if you want to push this agenda you will be declared a laughing stock by all and sundry. It is not a matter of presenting that they are not "Australian" citizens either as that would preclude their reference as First

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Where a person calls someone incompetent it is not a personal attack, it's a sign of a persons inability under Knowledge policy to properly understand the issue and form a neutral perspective. As a person who has majors at university in areas that qualify me to have a formal opinion as well as a

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Something else. Her notability is directly related to her tennis prowess. She must register with the ITF in order to compete in any tennis event and she registers with her preferred spelling of her first name. It's her choice. She has registered under "Ashleigh Barty." It's what she wants to be

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For heaven sake there is no need for a consensus when it comes to common use terms in Australian English and Indigenous is one of many common terms along with Aboriginal, Torres Strait Islander, and South Sea Islander for self-identified people. Anything else is a tendentious argument and to be

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There are probably thousands of ethnicity situations with tennis players that we never include in the lead. Shall we make sure we say that Maria Sharapova is a Siberian tennis player? Do we start making details of Eskimo tennis players if they represent Canada? That stuff gets mentioned in the

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under "Player articles." This was done long ago to stop crystal ball projections from non-official websites. Player rankings do not change instantly. They only change officially at the beginning of a new week (usually on Mondays). Updating rankings before that would be inaccurate. Rankings can

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From an outside perspective, it's fascinating to see everyone being so heated up over this so-called 'racism'. It certainly seems that the ethnicity/race of the individual is mentioned right from the start of the article, and I don't really understand why it should be paraded to the viewer in

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In Australia it doesn't matter if you are one billionth part aborigine, you can still be indigenous. That isn't the case with most other countries such as the USA's Native Americans. I'm guessing it's tough for many English speaking persons to get a handle on how such a minor percentage could

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article, it will suddenly change to Greek-American rather than American. It gets fixed rather quickly. Maybe most of the editors working on "List of Palestinians" are Palestinians or have strong ties to the Palestinian people... I really don't know. There will always be a few Irish-American,

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You don't appear to have much awareness or sensitivity of these issues. No, there is no need to refer to non Indigenous Australians as White or European because they are the dominant culture and so the label is interchangeable. There are issues behind this idea of which you are ignorant. The

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Ok WWGB, there isn't an "ethnicity" field in the tennis info box, even though there is in the {{Infobox sportsperson - which is all the more reason to include Barty's indigeneity within the first couple of sentences. Putting her indigeneity in the 18th sentence - *after* the tennis infobox

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Regardless of what any other articles may do, I am not "making up" any protocols. We normally only refer to a person's nationality in the opening sentence, not their ethnicity or any other "identity" unless this is of major notability. By your logic we should, apparently, also refer to all

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Most of the activity to include it would appear to be good faith attempts by newer editors to highlight something they see as important. Well, her Aboriginality is mentioned later in the article, so we're not keeping it a secret. One edit summary used when removing it mentioned that the

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There is a significant error being made by people who do not understand the conventions of race in Australia and if you do not understand the conventions of how we have gotten to this point then you really need to revisit whether you are competent to be having this discussion here at

5343:: the claim that news sources "overwhelmingly" refer to her as Ash is overwhelmingly false. Ashleigh is her name and she hasn't changed it anywhere. Ash is primarily a spoken diminutive of pretty much all people named Ashleigh. So nothing extra or unique is happening with her. 4894:

There was an infobox photo that was a good headshot of Barty, but it was replaced with an action shot. The view of her face is minimal and in profile. We have plenty of action shots; why do we not have a photo that clearly shows her face for identification purposes?

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Getting a little tired of racism coming out of your mouth as often as blinking. Find somewhere else to peddle that baloney. Consensus is needed whenever there is a dispute, and this is a question of placement, not whether it belongs in the article. Goodness.

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Wow, you created a new account just to comment here. What a pity your comments are mostly rubbish. Barty is an activist? Evidence please. Barty is marginalised? Evidence please. I concur that Barty is a leader, but that is in tennis, not indigenous affairs.

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This is particularly the problem with this issue and it crops up, which where other editors have said that local conventions DO apply to local issues and you can end up being buried in wiki-politics for issues you simply may not understand. The issue of

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from other editors. It's impossible for you to know the racial background of other editors here. I can't quite quite discern what you mean by "Knowledge should be about facts, not about being right." In fact, we really only care about what is said in

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If she wanted to be known professionally as Ash Barty, she would've changed her name in her WTA and ITF profiles. 'Ash' is an informal nickname, which is said as often as 'Ashleigh' during her matches. Almost nobody says Daniel Evans or Cori Gauff

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it isn't) you think the word is in Australia. Aside from that there is the issue, given that there is no consistency in Knowledge about this issue... I would strongly suggest a request for consideration of the fact is in order from people who are

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The 2nd citation however states her great-grandmother, but not clear on which parent this relation is through, though it could infer the relation is her father's grandmother. It's otherwise clear that 1 of the 2 is clear that it's her father. --

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Maybe because there are limited people editing many of those articles. The youtuber born in the USA in 1990 should say simply "American." In general terms he is actually an American citizen of Palestinian decent. It's why well known people like

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It's odd that no one but me seems to object to the frequent accusations about racism and incompetence here, but maybe things like that are a normal part of everyday "civilized" discussions down under. It's not acceptable where I live, though...

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As per the sbs reference you have removed, Barty self-identifies as Indigenous Australian, and as per the last 6 months of discussion, it is highly notable, also as per my last talk page it is parallel and consistent with Naomi Osaka's entry.

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on what seems like a rather extremist Australian blog seems to have a direct connection to the IP's actions, BTW, referring to the removal of the "indigenous/aboriginal" repeatedly added at the very beginning of the lead of this article as

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backgrounds is important and that you will probably not understand this (or even fight against it) if you are not from a marginalised background. This is called white privilege and there is a succinct article about this behaviour

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What is misleading? She is a member of the Ngaragu people because her father is a member of the Ngaragu people. He is a member of the Ngaragu people because his parent and grandmother is a member of the Ngaragu people... etc.

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distinction between Aboriginal Australian and Australian is absolutely a statement of Nationality for many Indigenous people. You might not understand how the current edit war is racist, but that does not mean that it isn't.

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went by Stanislaw for quite awhile but later changed his name in the ITF database to Stan. Knowledge did likewise shortly thereafter. If Ashleigh wants to be known as "Ash" in tennis all she has to do is contact the ITF.

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and its consequences in Australia. For those who are best interested do your own research first then come back once you actually have an educated position not just a reaction to the word "indigenous" however problematic

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Barty represents Australia in the Fed Cup. Unless you have evidence that she holds citizenship in some other nation or other sovereign, passport-issuing entity, then the intro shall refer to her as Australian. Period.

5948:: Clear common name. The fact that the article has existed at the longer title for so long is incredulous. I'm surprised to see so many editors disagreeing, and being especially vague in their reasoning for doing so. 4719:

LOL. It's better to be the second pancake since the first is a throwaway. Laver is probably more notable today as the second male to win a Grand Slam, compared to Don Budge being the first. Of course Laver won two.

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irrelevant here, since the Wikimedia Foundation, which owns Knowledge and operates the servers all Knowledge sites are housed on, is registered and headquartered in the United States, and governed by U.S. laws

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In addition to wanting her (part) ethnicity to be mentioned at the very beginning of the lead, as her most defining trait, they seem to object to the use of the term "indigenous", and instead want her to be

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for now: I have never heard her referred to as "Ash" (I've heard "Ashleigh" on news broadcasts and tennis commentaries). If she is routinely referred to as "Ash" later on, we can revisit this request. --

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That said, I do agree that in the section on her background, it is better to just say that she is indigenous Australian; we do not need to qualify her status by saying her grandmother was indigenous, as

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Calling people racist for not saying this person (who physically resembles a white person) is "spiritually black" (or whatever) surely must be considered more offensive than the alleged racism itself?

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have no understanding what so ever and a displayed habit of not wanting to learn anything that might be useful in editing in a space that can be controversial I would suggest you declare yourself

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Knowledge has become just another platform of White Privilege where the resistance to the inclusion of one word is ridiculous. It's one word. It's an accurate word. Why are people so triggered? (

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factual all the time here especially on topics (they believe) are highly emotive (that aren't actually so). It's unfortunate it takes someone becoming world number one to raise the ugly issue of

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Further, the MOS is clear that the introductory sentence should mention nationality of people, not ethnicity. Therefore, no descriptor is needed to modify her nation of citizenship, Australia. —

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Media are not consistent with her name. Although there's about 8 times more results of "Ashleigh Barty" than "Ash Barty", even if you include the term "tennis", they all use either variant. --

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As has been said above, it really does not matter about what percentage or when a person becomes aware of the facts that they are indigenous in Australia and you really should revisit your

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needed (and this is as clear-cut a consensus as you can get), and again, Barty's indigenous heritage is already mentioned in the lead, which is more than satisfactory. The end.

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term is the problem here. You are editing in an Australian space and therefore Australian conventions apply. I would ask that you respect those conventions or self declare your

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names. However, there is no consensus whether Ashleigh or Ash is more commonly used in the news media. Regarding self-identification, while her Twitter account uses Ash, her

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Yes, recentism, but would we be advised to wait and see what the post-Wimbledon and Olympics coverage does with her name? That may tip the scale on what her common name is. —

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That's a bit of a scattergun attack on all sorts of issues. Not really sure what point(s) you are trying to make. A couple of things.... When editing here, it's important to

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Plus that information is already in the lead where it says "Barty is of Indigenous heritage and serves as the National Indigenous Tennis Ambassador for Tennis Australia."

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personal/family section. The WTA bio doesn't find it important enough to even mention. This type of trivial addition happens all the time after a just-completed Major.

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When and how and by what percentage is particularly irrelevant. You might actually want to think about what the purpose of pushing that wheelbarrow uphill is about. --

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personally draw attention to their affiliation with that minority race or nobody who was so inclined would have any reason to exhibit racism toward that individual.

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google hits on .com.au sites, where they are much more likely to use her preferred name in articles, rather than just what is in the official guidebook. Countering

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You did not answer my question. What significant error has been made? Barty is described in the lead as an Indigenous Australian. What is the issue here?

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Top Aussie Ashleigh Barty, whose father is from the Ngarigo indigenous people, has been named National Indigenous Tennis Ambassador by Tennis Australia.

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per F1lover22. We use official names from the WTA/ITF websites, unless the media has a clear preference for an alternative (which isn't the case here).

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if you want to do that. As to placing a small mention at the end of a paragraph, and saying its enough, if you want to make that point, very well... --

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and serves as the National Indigenous Tennis Ambassador for Tennis Australia". You see, IT'S IN THERE! Now go away, stop ranting, and have a lie down.

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matches, not before when the winner is not known yet. The other presented aspects make some sense and may be understood, especially the aspect re the

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etc were World No 1 players and do not mention ethnicity in the first paragraph of their articles. Why would Barty be treated any differently?

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Flashscore is a go-to source for match statistics in tennis (and most other sports as well). They record how matches play out point-by-point.

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This has gone way off-topic. IP, stop telling everyone that they're wrong/incompetent (or, further, suggesting that racism is involved) and

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Hang on a second isn't she the National Indigenous Tennis Ambassador for Tennis Australia? Does that not count as making her an activist?

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However, you have not presented any evidence that self-identified people are not Australian citizens, so the intro will not be changed. —

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You are not doing anything other than pushing your own extremist agenda... Get a bandwagon and go someplace else, please? If you want to

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her personal section with only a mention in the lead, so I recapped the ambassador info at the end of the lead as a compromise.

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We have a bit of an edit war underway about including the descriptor "indigenous" in the lead. It's probably time to discuss.

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I'm amazed at how vague you are in saying Ash is the most common version of her name. It's incredulous to the rest of us.

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she been playing in South Africa in 1972 because she doesn't physically resemble anything other than a white Australian.

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You need to compare the two names to show which is the common name. Just looking at one name is not a comparison.

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6. Equal weight. Why have you not responded to any of the examples given of articles about indigenous people? Add

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perspective exists is also neither here nor there. As the courts adjudicated in Australia, the perspective of one

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4. Indigeneity is not ethnicity. Indigeneity is contested nationhood, ethnicity is genealogical cultural descent.

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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to edit here. That is neither a personal attack or anything otherwise untoward it's just a matter of facts. --

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Hiya editing cartel, WWGB/Fyunck/4thewynne/sportsfan7777 - So when can we scratch numbers 3 to 12 from the

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Suggest the re-insertion of the word "indigenous" before "Australian tennis player" in the opening line.

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issue in Australia. As this is an Australian article first, then Australian conventions apply here. --

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after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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is Ashleigh, and opposers state that she would use a nickname there if she strongly preferred it.

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is an acceptable edit. I would not make that edit. But I don't think it's a big deal. I would ask

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flashing neon, as some of those posting comments about that here appear to wish should be done.

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I also think it depends on informal vs formal. The Australian Open formally calls her Ashleigh

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don't say Armenian-American. He's American. When we get fiercely pro-Greece editors working on

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Accusing others of racism without proof and using all caps are not good practice on Knowledge.

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I see the explanations given above and I'd say only one aspect: Live rankings aren't exactly

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That's my lot. Will put the article on hold to give you time to make the necessary changes.

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a new career-high doubles ranking of No. 11 in the world towards the very end of the season.

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leave as is. Her name is Ashleigh, the diminutive should not be the title of the article.

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Changed to "a new career-high world doubles ranking of No. 11 towards end of the season".

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I think this is the organization the runs cricket in Queensland in general, not the club.

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2. Barty is Australia's National Indigenous Tennis Ambassador, Goolagong Cawley was not.

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standardized to "wildcard" (which I think is the preferred Australian English variant).

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And what "significant errors" have been introduced by non-indigenous editors, do tell!

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due to Barty's self-reference, primarily. WTA, Grand Slam, etc. is just a formality. —

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possibly be considered indigenous, but Australian law simply handles it differently.

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https://www.welcometocountry.org/digital-genocide-ash-bartys-race-repeatedly-removed/

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I agree that the NT material is not relevant in a bio article. Tennis "clinics" like

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into her personal information box as per another Australian Indigenous sports star,

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start to the season" - try to avoid wording such as "excellent" for cases like this

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non-indigenous Australians as being a "White Australian" or "European Australian".

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I don't know if I would describe cricket and tennis as different "disciplines".

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5. Neither Williams sister is indigenous American, why have you mentioned them?

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honest, not much short of racism. This discussion was archived for a reason. --

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I don't feel strongly either way. But we need to pause the edit war. Thoughts?

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Her notability is also directly related to her cricket prowess. She is on the

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laws, rules and regulations are, just like the laws, rules and regulations of

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a new career-high world doubles ranking of No. 11 towards the season's end.

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States reached the quarters at the 2020 Olympics, she reached the semis.

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and that will happen in the future. This has all been discussed before.

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Barty - the emphasis should be raised in accordance eith its notability.

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prose we have a quote from Barty, "I'm a very proud Indigenous woman..."

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She is always reffered to as Ash Barty. You rarely hear her full name.

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article doesn't mention it in the lead. A fair point, but is that just

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all call her "Ash". The list goes on. Should be changed according to

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Clarified to "where had won her first WTA match four years earlier".

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is well worth exploring. We do not need consensus to understand the

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Do you also agree with their conduct, in attacking the other user?--

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tennis player, and the article is the worse for it. But so be it.

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to edit in relation to matters surrounding Indigenous Australians.

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in Australia. I'm gonna assume you don't care about that either.

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This is a clear personal attack. Retract this, and apologise.--

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conundrum here as it won't change the facts of the matter. --

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singles result," - try to avoid working such as "impressive"

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at three out of four Grand Slam tournaments during the year.

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do not include ethnicity in the first sentence. Why should

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for additional information. I made the following changes:

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good for sixth out of eight teams in the competition.

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With luck, it's both right and factual. 600: 197: 77:I have just modified one external link on 4335:I propose the following edit, as per the 4297:There is no such field as "ethnicity" in 4173:section 18c of the Antidiscrimination act 1898:What makes Flashscore a reliable source? 1071:Barty's only other two tour-level singles 5007:2001:16B8:C168:FD00:E9D6:E57B:576E:43CD 4945:2001:16B8:C168:FD00:E9D6:E57B:576E:43CD 4512:'s 'ethnicity' is in the 5th sentence. 4194:2001:8003:6450:C400:F0D8:930D:DDBB:7CD6 4000:2001:8003:6450:C400:F0D8:930D:DDBB:7CD6 3846:2001:8003:6450:C400:F0D8:930D:DDBB:7CD6 3738:2001:8003:6450:C400:B822:E5B8:F94F:7035 3306:That should be more than satisfactory. 2307:2001:8003:641C:4B00:3026:802B:7911:A98C 1635:"year-end" is the standard expression. 1597:Singles: WTA Elite Trophy, world No. 15 1199:Australia women's national cricket team 228: 200: 6196:Correct to show she reached the semis 4188:it's like arguing 2+2 = 72 and you're 3366: 3362: 2553:country other than the United States, 2469:and lack of knowledge to construct an 1658:"The first also helped Barty climb to 1536:"Individually, Barty also established 1351:first ever wins at the Australian Open 1344:Singles: First WTA title, world No. 17 1174:changed to "This transpired to be..." 1135:with a set in hand in both finals." - 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 4552: 2944:My part in this discussion is done -- 1956:Am now going to promote to GA class. 1497:Changed to "during the 2017 season". 1319:"She was happy with her performance, 1020:"top 200 of the WTA singles rankings 7: 5533:(or Daniel Evans, per the ATP/ITF). 5078:The result of the move request was: 4424:List of Native American sportspeople 6023:I have had my say on this, I think 1688:lost the first set" - remove "had" 4175:then you clearly fail the test of 3352:I don't think it matters. I think 1976:Please do not disrupt this page . 24: 4299:Template:Infobox tennis biography 1625:"she was able to qualify for the 1105:"This success also helped Barty ' 923:next week" - "very" is reduntant 711:"she was practising against boys 81:. Please take a moment to review 6183:The discussion above is closed. 4537:Side-by-side, without prejudice: 4140:some people and the fact that a 4132:topic at all. To begin with the 3449: 3400: 2489:. Which is the general level of 1841:." - change the text in bold to 1837:"during the second half of that 662:"Barty also played netball as a 579: 556: 538: 507: 483: 480:Fair representation without bias 456: 442: 413: 399: 385: 354: 320: 29: 6126:, Deutsche Welle uses Ashleigh 2477:are thinking. It's the type of 2361: 1569:"Barty won both of her singles 5131:) 00:58, 2 August 2021 (UTC) 3081:And there was much rejoicing! 2396:07:23, 12 September 2019 (UTC) 2377:06:34, 12 September 2019 (UTC) 2033:, they are certain being done 1166:This turned out to be her only 1: 6108:, Associated Press uses both 6027:is the governing policy here. 4733:For what it's worth, I think 4522:23:36, 31 December 2019 (UTC) 4497:19:34, 31 December 2019 (UTC) 4478:12:37, 31 December 2019 (UTC) 4455:06:11, 31 December 2019 (UTC) 4436:02:53, 31 December 2019 (UTC) 4403:01:38, 31 December 2019 (UTC) 4376:01:22, 31 December 2019 (UTC) 4366:Please respond ASAP. Thanks, 4331:00:48, 31 December 2019 (UTC) 4311:00:31, 31 December 2019 (UTC) 4292:00:22, 31 December 2019 (UTC) 4267:23:17, 30 December 2019 (UTC) 4242:22:02, 30 December 2019 (UTC) 4220:21:59, 30 December 2019 (UTC) 3681:It was actually her paternal 3494:06:42, 6 September 2019 (UTC) 3480:04:16, 6 September 2019 (UTC) 3443:02:51, 6 September 2019 (UTC) 3383:08:17, 9 September 2019 (UTC) 3373:says "Keep headings neutral" 3336:08:27, 6 September 2019 (UTC) 3316:06:49, 6 September 2019 (UTC) 3287:05:30, 6 September 2019 (UTC) 3264:04:46, 6 September 2019 (UTC) 3241:04:27, 6 September 2019 (UTC) 3213:03:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC) 3197:02:43, 6 September 2019 (UTC) 3161:02:20, 6 September 2019 (UTC) 3144:01:27, 6 September 2019 (UTC) 3118:01:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC) 2338:05:16, 5 September 2019 (UTC) 2051:15:31, 4 September 2019 (UTC) 2025:22:52, 3 September 2019 (UTC) 2005:20:35, 3 September 2019 (UTC) 4826:20:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC) 4202:06:41, 13 October 2019 (UTC) 4123:04:37, 13 October 2019 (UTC) 4066:04:35, 13 October 2019 (UTC) 4008:04:31, 13 October 2019 (UTC) 3904:04:19, 13 October 2019 (UTC) 3854:03:54, 13 October 2019 (UTC) 3761:17:53, 12 October 2019 (UTC) 3746:15:19, 12 October 2019 (UTC) 3704:14:16, 12 October 2019 (UTC) 3677:13:33, 12 October 2019 (UTC) 3663:an IP editor attempted to do 3656:00:13, 10 October 2019 (UTC) 3619:00:01, 10 October 2019 (UTC) 1964:15:54, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1945:03:33, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1911:03:29, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1885:03:24, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1858:03:24, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1831:03:24, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1798:03:22, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1779:03:22, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1760:03:22, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1727:03:16, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1701:03:16, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1678:03:16, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1645:03:11, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1619:03:10, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1589:03:08, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1556:03:07, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1530:03:07, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1507:03:07, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1474:03:05, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1448:03:05, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1422:03:05, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1396:03:05, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1373:03:05, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1336:03:01, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1313:03:01, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1280:03:01, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1258:03:01, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1232:03:01, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1213:03:01, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1184:02:55, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1170:It transpired to be her only 1151:02:53, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1125:02:53, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1092:02:49, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1063:02:47, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1037:02:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 1024:" - How many weeks exactly? 1014:02:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 988:02:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 962:02:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 936:02:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 913:02:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 890:02:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 867:02:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 833:02:35, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 806:02:35, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 783:02:35, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 764:02:35, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 731:02:31, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 705:02:31, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 682:02:31, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 656:02:31, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 637:02:31, 10 January 2019 (UTC) 580: 557: 539: 508: 484: 457: 443: 414: 400: 386: 355: 321: 5585:that's more of a nickname. 5265:It is not like the case of 5052:Requested move 10 July 2021 4792:08:42, 3 January 2020 (UTC) 4767:06:02, 3 January 2020 (UTC) 4713:05:45, 3 January 2020 (UTC) 4687:21:08, 2 January 2020 (UTC) 4672:20:35, 2 January 2020 (UTC) 4656:19:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC) 4624:10:23, 2 January 2020 (UTC) 4566:is a Japanese professional 4560: 3580:18:58, 9 October 2019 (UTC) 3565:14:53, 9 October 2019 (UTC) 3537:14:43, 9 October 2019 (UTC) 3514:14:42, 8 October 2019 (UTC) 3427:to reactivate your request. 3415:has been answered. Set the 3091:03:02, 8 October 2019 (UTC) 3077:02:17, 8 October 2019 (UTC) 3050:18:27, 7 October 2019 (UTC) 3036:10:33, 7 October 2019 (UTC) 2998:10:14, 7 October 2019 (UTC) 2954:01:55, 7 October 2019 (UTC) 2896:23:51, 6 October 2019 (UTC) 2838:23:43, 6 October 2019 (UTC) 2826:colour terminology for race 2779:23:29, 6 October 2019 (UTC) 2763:22:41, 6 October 2019 (UTC) 2731:09:34, 6 October 2019 (UTC) 2697:00:35, 6 October 2019 (UTC) 2655:00:27, 6 October 2019 (UTC) 2592:17:52, 5 October 2019 (UTC) 2577:17:34, 5 October 2019 (UTC) 2542:12:04, 5 October 2019 (UTC) 2519:02:53, 5 October 2019 (UTC) 1926:14:27, 9 January 2019 (UTC) 1811:"and ended up playing semi- 1573:against the Netherlands" - 607:2620:117:502C:7F:0:0:0:D030 303:10:05, 4 January 2019 (UTC) 291:10:05, 4 January 2019 (UTC) 6221: 6206:07:15, 23 March 2022 (UTC) 5323:, vs 5000 which use "Ash" 5149:00:58, 2 August 2021 (UTC) 5106:00:58, 2 August 2021 (UTC) 4954:clearly states her father. 4599:Women's Tennis Association 4580:Women's Tennis Association 4353:Women's Tennis Association 3687:the source the IP provided 3685:grandmother, according to 3466:making an edit request. – 2481:that leads to things like 2465:story? This displays pure 2315:05:42, 4 August 2019 (UTC) 1750:Done (no pun intended...) 1299:She initally only competed 152:(last update: 5 June 2024) 74:Hello fellow Wikipedians, 6178:05:30, 31 July 2021 (UTC) 6161:09:12, 28 July 2021 (UTC) 6144:03:19, 26 July 2021 (UTC) 6037:22:12, 28 July 2021 (UTC) 6019:05:55, 28 July 2021 (UTC) 5997:05:22, 28 July 2021 (UTC) 5976:04:10, 26 July 2021 (UTC) 5958:00:51, 26 July 2021 (UTC) 5937:22:32, 24 July 2021 (UTC) 5898:10:39, 19 July 2021 (UTC) 5872:10:23, 19 July 2021 (UTC) 5855:22:17, 18 July 2021 (UTC) 5837:22:46, 16 July 2021 (UTC) 5818:07:29, 15 July 2021 (UTC) 5789:22:24, 31 July 2021 (UTC) 5768:18:53, 12 July 2021 (UTC) 5745:14:21, 13 July 2021 (UTC) 5727:19:43, 12 July 2021 (UTC) 5707:18:13, 12 July 2021 (UTC) 5669:16:00, 12 July 2021 (UTC) 5641:09:59, 12 July 2021 (UTC) 5624:05:54, 12 July 2021 (UTC) 5595:03:20, 12 July 2021 (UTC) 5578:21:05, 11 July 2021 (UTC) 5564:12:38, 11 July 2021 (UTC) 5543:04:57, 11 July 2021 (UTC) 5522:02:34, 11 July 2021 (UTC) 5505:01:46, 11 July 2021 (UTC) 5482:12:43, 11 July 2021 (UTC) 5464:23:52, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 5387:19:11, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 5370:18:33, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 5353:18:31, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 5336:18:14, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 5313:18:02, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 5296:17:56, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 5279:17:17, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 5258:16:43, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 5239:16:06, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 5222:15:46, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 5200:15:22, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 5181:14:15, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 5040:23:18, 25 July 2021 (UTC) 5019:18:26, 24 July 2021 (UTC) 4990:07:40, 16 July 2021 (UTC) 4975:11:44, 12 July 2021 (UTC) 4933:15:54, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 4907:13:36, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 4884:15:12, 10 July 2021 (UTC) 4849:) 12:04, 9 Jul 2021 (UTC) 4547: 4165:their place in Australia. 2451:or anything to do with a 2281:00:05, 25 June 2019 (UTC) 2266:23:45, 24 June 2019 (UTC) 2252:04:31, 25 June 2019 (UTC) 2238:13:07, 12 June 2019 (UTC) 2214:03:22, 26 June 2019 (UTC) 2200:04:31, 25 June 2019 (UTC) 2186:09:56, 11 June 2019 (UTC) 2171:08:55, 11 June 2019 (UTC) 2144:22:50, 10 June 2019 (UTC) 2122:04:40, 10 June 2019 (UTC) 2107:04:20, 10 June 2019 (UTC) 2088:03:22, 10 June 2019 (UTC) 2012:Tennis Project Guidelines 1986:20:42, 23 June 2019 (UTC) 1517:in 2013" - remove "back" 968:"She won four ITF titles 816:the season by winning" - 666:," - informal; should be 623:That's all it says. 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Please establish a 2475:Indigenous Australians 2093:Clear exclusion under 2059:Indigenous in the lead 2039:entire number of weeks 1684:"Barty and Vandeweghe 1288:2016: Return to tennis 972:singles and doubles." 5412:Sydney Morning Herald 4739:Indigenous Australian 4603:Indigenous Australian 4357:Indigenous Australian 4276:Indigenous Australian 2714:Aboriginal Australian 2685:Indigenous Australian 1872:would be better here 1609:changed to "strong". 1383:won " - remove "had" 896:Wikilink Wildcard to 520:It is illustrated by 472:neutral point of view 428:broad in its coverage 42:of past discussions. 6087:, RTÉ uses Ashleigh 4225:List of Palestinians 3807:refer to this point: 2161:in her own country. 796:changed to "strong" 773:added "in Thailand" 715:six years older." - 133:regular verification 6103:, Reuters uses Ash 6071:Wall Street Journal 5845:works, somewhat. -- 4533:Proposed compromise 4134:sky clearly is blue 3363:"White or European" 2493:that leads to open 2404:How in the name of 2073:WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS 1027:Clarified (three). 1022:a few weeks earlier 880:Clarified (three). 533:fair use rationales 123:After February 2018 18:Talk:Ashleigh Barty 6056:The New York Times 5806:User:14.200.53.228 5800:I agree to change. 5714:Stanislaw Wawrinka 5379:Inspector Semenych 4890:No good headshots? 4593:player and former 4347:player and former 3134:be any different? 3012:"digital genocide" 2711:described as being 2298:suitably qualified 1295:At first, she only 898:Wild card (sports) 504:No edit wars, etc. 365:factually accurate 177:InternetArchiveBot 128:InternetArchiveBot 5085: 5082:non-admin closure 4850: 4841:comment added by 4574:. 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