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This statement in the intro is misleading. "It was evidently the first time an activist had ever been murdered while protesting abortion." It implies that there are no other reported cases of extreme violence against pro-lifers and that is absolutely false. there is ample evidence that pro-lifers
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At the time I made the edit, I saw that the organization was in brackets and didn't realize it was a red link. However, it seems reasonably notable, having won a number of high-profile SCOTUS cases about reproductive rights. Article should be created (I may get on that at some point) rather than
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Assassination is defined as the deliberate killing of a high-profile figure, such as a politician. Mr. Pouillin was not such a figure. Based on that, and comments in the deletion discussion (closed as no consensus with regards to deleting the entire article, but with no disagreements regarding
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We don't yet know whether it was murder. We cannot know until the trial is over. Maybe the shooter was insane, and, maybe this killing was justifiable homicide! Pouillon was, after all, a right-to-lifer, and a good argument can be made that at this time in USA, killing right-to-lifers is
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justifiable homicide, not murder. There is a terrorist war going on, but so far, only one side has been fighting it as a war. A response in kind may be unwise for the pro-choice movement, but it's not obvious whether or not it qualifies as "murder".
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The discussion was entirely about whether it made sense to have a category for people who were murdered for reasons unrelated to their activism, as distinct from people who were killed because of their activism and thus are categorized as "assassinated
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I believe this page should be moved to a biographical page on Harlan James Drake that describes his background and lead up to the shootings. Example:
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https://web.archive.org/20100502235602/http://www.freep.com:80/article/20100423/NEWS06/4230410/1008/Michigan-news-Gunman-gets-life-sentence
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How about moving it to a page on James Pouillon, instead? I suspect that we'll find Harlan James Drake to be a zero, whose
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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came with the killings of Pouillon and Fuoss, making for an extremely short Knowledge (XXG) article. —
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Concur that this belongs as a subsection in a biography of Pouillon, should such ever be written. --
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http://www.freep.com/article/20100423/NEWS06/4230410/1008/Michigan-news-Gunman-gets-life-sentence
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before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template
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I agree the name might be too heavy-handed. Possibly we can discuss a name-change in time.--
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article but I expected people would tweak it. It's a hard page to title. --
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after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add
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to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
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But we don't yet know whether or not it was murder! See below.
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Idiocy. ASS-in-nation, is more like it. We can do without him.
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Mr. Pouillon was not a famous public figure. He was murdered.
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Go for it. I created the article title based on the
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