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603:"de" is the Dutch language article corresponding to the English article "the". Many Dutch and Belgian surnames use that article, such as "De Wolf" (the wolf) or "Van de Velden" (from Velden). My speculation is that De Morgan's surname is of Dutch origin, since "from Morgan" does not make sense to me at all. In that case, it is customary but not necessary for the surname to start with a higher-case "D" (that goes for many other languages, e.g. I have a friend whose surname is "de Oliveira" and another whose surname is "De Rossi"). 402: 392: 371: 150: 31: 1233:, and in the last sentence, on p. 368, she gave his reasons not to be publicly open in his beliefs: "The state of mind in which he had lived, and in which he died, is shown by a sentence in his will: "I commend my future with hope and confidence to Almighty God; to God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, whom I believe in my heart to be the Son of God, but whom I have not confessed with my lips, because in my time such confession has always been the way up in the world."" 343: 327: 311: 512:(Project Gutenberg). That's great, no problem with copyright. The only thing I want to suggest here is that when source texts such as this are imported, it would be a good idea to put a note in the article or the talk page telling where it came from. Texts copied from other sources are an ongoing problem for Knowledge -- let's make it easier to find the problematic articles by clearly labeling the ones that aren't a problem. Happy editing, 88: 64: 22: 213: 178: 223: 953:
would be DEAD - natually. Monge extended his lines and he made predictions for when that would happen for his servants, and whatever members of his family were around. (Maybe he didn't have any.) In the end, Monge got to where he was sleeping 23 hours a day, and at that point, he was so sick that he did die at that time.
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The link between classical Indian logic and De Morgan, while potentially fascinating, appears to be purely speculative: Besides the Mary Boole quote and De Morgan's affinity for India, there does not seem to be any connection. Most of De Morgan's own writing on Indian mathematics is either despondent
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One source by parapsychologist John Beloff (president of the Parapsychological Association) Parapsychology: A Concise History (1993) is no enough for stating that someone has definite belief in this or that. Augustus De Morgan non-conforming disposition as been interpreted by one parapsychologist
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grew older and older, he slept more and more every day. Monge also kept records of his hours of sleep, and since he was an old mathematican, he kept tables of his records, and he drew graphs of his hours of sleep. No kidding. Monge predicted that whenever he started sleeping 24 hours a day, then he
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I recently removed the tag requesting a rewrite -- most of the original Macfarlane chapter has been edited and/or removed with citations of modern scholarship added. Some of the original phrasing remains but unfortunately not the more florid turns of phrase. Of course the original text is available
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It's definitely in order - it's not impartial at all, nor well sited. It's a shame since some of it is quite interesting, like the "paradoxer to whom De Morgan paid the compliment which Achilles paid Hector — to drag him round the walls again and again", which reads like a commentary, but for that
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Since English is not my mother tongue I cannot say that this is this way for sure, but in Spanish the article is "de" and we write "Augustus de Morgan" and (if we want to say just the surname) "De Morgan". This is a Spanish grammar general rule: When the surname has a particle such as "de" and we
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he argues that belief in science does not imply atheism. Beloff's assertion that De Morgan was debarred from Oxbridge due to atheism misses the distinction between not ascribing to Church of England dogma and atheism. Perhaps the only thing that is clear is that De Morgan was adamant about not
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The long quoted section including "met at Indianapolis in 1890" cannot be by De Morgan, who died in 1871. It might have been inserted by the editor of the second edition (1915), David Eugene Smith, but I have just scanned my copy of that edition and found no such thing. Hardly any of Smith's
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I have added a few details, links, and references. Rice 1997 has a nice synthesis on this. Interesting bit from De Morgan and co's letter to the administration: "There is no university in the world where it would be for a moment tolerated that the students should have any constraint direct or
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whichever ancient work it was copied from, the style is dreadful. totally inappropriate for a modern encyclopedia and not likely to enlighten many people about the mathematics it pretends to explain. hopefully someone will scrap the lot and write something from scratch.
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Much of the article seems to have been lifted from some antique encyclopedia, maybe the 1911 EB. It reads in ye-olde-tea-shoppe style and is woefully underlinked, rambling, poorly explained and lamentably under-cited. A rewrite might be in order.
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There are a number of Irish names that come from Latin through Norman French, De Leon is one, Delaney from De l’aunaie is another. For some reason they are generally written with a capital "De" as in De Morgan. It's a bit strange, though, since
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Hello. From searching the web for some of the text of the current version of this article, it looks like it is copied entirely from "Ten British Mathematicians of the 19th Century", by Alexander Macfarlane, dated 1916, at:
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What was the dispute? What was the action taken by the council? It would reveal something of De Morgan's character to know what he stood for. Did he lead the professors who quit or was he simply the first one?
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I noticed the same thing as Buenasdiaz, only 8 years later. Large portions of this article are taken verbatim from the publicly available book "Ten British Mathematicians", found here:
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One of my college professors told me years ago the man was famous also for sleeping 22 hours a day for the last 20 years of his life. I have to wonder if anyone knows if this is true.
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The word "de" means "of" in all major romance languages (in Italian, it's "di"). "de" in most French names is in lower case unless it starts a sentence. Correct me if I'm wrong. ~
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I also feel that the original work should be credited. It is linked to under further reading, but it's unclear from the article that the text is directly derived from it.
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at its state (at the time) or optimistic at its potential modernization. The current citations are hand-waving at best. Is there any plausible connection?
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Furthermore (1) De Morgan's beliefs, where expressed, appear to be almost Unitarian: He married into a Unitarian family and held similar beliefs
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Since English is not your mother tongue, please leave the entire subject alone! Britain is the location of immigrants from many, many places.
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Is it "de Morgan" or "De Morgan"? I've seen both used. What language uses "De" in names? Is capitalizing "De" the usual convention in it?
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Granted, health declines when the spirit breaks; but it's customary to give a physical diagnosis as the actual cause of death.
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He once printed his name: Augustus De Morgan, H - O - M - O - P - A - U - C - A - R - U - M - L - I - T - E - R - A - R - U - M.
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I'm sure that's something very humorous in Latin, but, unfortunately, I only understand English... (man of few words perhaps?)
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De Morgan became blind in one eye a month or two after he was born. This is referred to in the article, but only vaguely.
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By the way, was I the only one to notice many parts of this article on De Morgan were copied from The MacTutor article?
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the caption can't be so because he died years before. so when was it really taken? (not just when it was published)
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De Morgan was definitely not an atheist; he was fiercely anti-dogma. De Morgan's wife Sophia was very clear in her
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source for presenting an opinion for such and such, but it is still not to be deemed authoritative and conclusive.
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In what sense is this guy a 'British Music Theorist...? It seems to me that the 'category' is quite undeserved...
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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If you read the first comment in this Talk, you will see that they were both copied from the same source.
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I'm guessing "de", latin/french for "of". Speaking of latin, could somebody please translate this?
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It means "Man of few letters." They were going to confer on him the degree Doctor of Letters. --
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footnotes are anywhere near as long as this quote. Do not attribute this quote to De Morgan.
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he points out that his accuser is wrong and that Voltaire is in fact a deist; (3) in
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expressing his religious beliefs publicly, as indicated in the quote from his will.
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via the link in the references and is highly recommended to those interested.
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indirect over the appointment or removal of a professor." La plus ça change.
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want to refer to that person just by saying his/her surname, we put "De".
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It really is Augustus De Morgan; his handwritten name can be seen here:
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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Very doubtful. It is true that as the French mathematican
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Beloff as meaning he was atheist? That will not just do.
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doesn't seem Dutch to me, except if it were derived from
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The article currently states that De Morgan died of "
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has been available at Project Gutenberg for years. (
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