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Serbian Popovic whose only crime was that he was a member of the Hungarian parliament (strange fascist oppression to have Serbian representatives in our parliament, don't you think?) Another important detail is that the massacres (yes, I am calling them massacres, just as the mass murders committed by Titoist partisans) were promted by clandestine violent actions against the local population (burning of crops, brutal killing of soldiers). Furthermore, Hungary's reannexation of the Délvidék cannot be legally considered as an occupation of Yugoslavia since it only happened after Croatia declared its independence and Yugoslavia de jure ceased to exist. (Hungarian politicians were highly aware of this and they only commenced the reoccupation (or liberation, maybe semantics) of the Délvidék by the time Yugoslavia had dissolved itself. Moreover, the raid had a preventive nature as well because Yugoslav partisans (Chetniks and Communists together) had planned a major massacre of the Hungarian and German population of Délvidék for January 9, 1942 (date of the Serbian Christmas) which was also prevented by Hungarian military action.
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Yugoslavia proper and a certain number of Yugoslav army units guarded Vojvodina and its borders. I also understand that under the pressure of war there was desertion and a number of them flee. But there were fights in the first days of occupation, at least around Novi sad, and in Srem. This article needs to be written from the point of view of a real historian and as a real historic account. And for a proper encyclopedic article, both the number of resistance movement, both of the german/hungarian troops, and Yugoslav army units needs to be in there (also later chetniks, we know that their movement was present at least in Banat). And no reason to omit the Soviet solders numbers (if we have them). I don't have the data but I assume that the person who precisely collected the data about civilians also had access to these, and for some reason still did not include it, which is a proper omission.â
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Hungarian government, which placed him there only to hide true character of the fascist "state"). Regarding legality of Hungarian fascist occupation, Yugoslavia never de jure ceased to exist as a state. After Axis Powers occupied Yugoslavia the only legal government of the whole that area recognized by the international community was a Yugoslav government in exile. All other regimes and troops that existed on the Yugoslav soil during the war (including "Independent State of Croatia") were there illegally. Also, partisans (there were no chetniks in Vojvodina) never planed massacre of Hungarian and German populations - that was only fascists propaganda and we know very well who commited massacre against whom in 1942, so please refrain from such ridiculous claims.
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Commander in Serbiaâ. Because name is disputed, I say that it should not be used all over Knowledge (XXG). If someone read comments of DIREKTOR and Peacemaker67 he can see that these two try to convince others that this territory was not Serbia. I do not understand why they try to do this, but description that I propose in this page do not contradict to POV of two users and I do not see any reason why they revert me. Is any of users able to say what is wrong with description âarea governed by the
1930:. It is not true that this region was not called Vojvodina in that time and I proved that with sources. Occupation and division of Vojvodina and rest of Serbia by Nazis was illegal. Independent State of Croatia, Hungary and German occupied territory were illegal and we should not promote here illegal Nazi creations and merge this page into pages about illegal Nazi entities. Peacemaker67, you have no consensus to merge this page and do not give yourself freedom to do that with no consensus.
993:. Peacemaker67 abuse this source trying to make false impression that name that he promote is referenced. He also placed these 2 references into article bibliography but they are not bibliography for this page. This page is about occupation of Vojvodina and bibliography on this page should have books about that. Two books that Peacemaker67 placed there are not even distantly connected to occupation of Vojvodina and because of that these books are not bibliography for this page.
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1392:@Nemambrata, the three sources you linked to include one in Serbian, one by Carl Savich, a nationalist rightwing blogger, which could not be considered reliable, and one that appears to be in English and might be reliable. There are hundreds of WP:RS about the occupation of Backa, Baranja and Banat. Vojvodina is clearly not the contemporary WP:COMMONNAME for the area in question. You can't have it both ways.
1169:. Axis war crimes in Vojvodina are notable subject and we should not delete this page. By my opinion current title of page is bad and page should be moved to this new title: âAxis war crimes in Vojvodinaâ. After this, page should be expanded with more data. This is one of few pages in Knowledge (XXG) that are speak about war crimes against Serbs. Perhaps you think that some pages about some massacres from
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Hungarian users. I am sure that those Jews that were killed in south BaÄka in 1942 are very happy because Horthy "helped" them - this is outrage cinism to say that a man who is war criminal and who was responsible for killed Jews is among "People who helped Jews during the Holocaust".
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PANONIAN, thanks for your entry on Knowledge (XXG). The reference notes you enclosed are connected to three specific statements in your article, but other sections remain unsourced. As for the "official state sources" you mention here, the article mentions none. Also, please provide a translation for
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Here I will explain my edits - Peacemaker67 is try to promote in Knowledge (XXG) name Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia. I looked recent edits in some articles and I see that this name was personally included into these pages by this user. This name almost do not exist in English sources
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1.Bibliography. Page with name âOccupation of Vojvodinaâ should have bibliography that speak about occupation of Vojvodina. Books of Hehn, Paul N and Pavlowitch, Stevan K do not speak about occupation of Vojvodina and are not bibliography for this page. If one want to use two books to support some
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You showed to me something expressed by ONE JEW who was not aware of the role that Horthy had in genocide against Jewish civilians in BaÄka in 1942. If he was aware of this role, he would say something very different, believe me... And please, just continue with your personal insults - all of them
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just to clarify, Antidiskriminator. Do you have a different version of Google Books than me? I presented the 11 hits for the 'Occupation of Vojvodina' of which only four might be reliable sources. Firstly, it is not covered in 'thousands of reliable sources' at most there are 4. Also, there is no
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a book by NĂĄndor F. Dreisziger (1998) called 'Hungary in the age of total war (1938-1948)'. It is only available in snippet view, and the reference is 'The Hungarian nation would not have tolerated the occupation of Vojvodina by German troops, and its transformation into a German Gau under a Nazi
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The subject of this article is occupation of Vojvodina by Axis. I am sorry, but I don't believe that you really think that Vojvodina was not occupied by Axis, or that it is not very notable event.--
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1942. Even if Horthy helped to some Jews in 1944 could be simply a consequence of guilt that he felt because he was responsible for Jews killed in 1942. Please do not mix events from 1942 and 1944.
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