Talk:Boatmen of Thessaloniki

2242:, professor of history at Yale University Misirkov viewed both himself and the Slavs of Macedonia as Bulgarians, and espoused pan-Bulgarian patriotism in a larger Balkan context, and especially with regard to the Serbian and the Greek hegemonism in Macedonia. However, in the context of the larger Bulgarian unit/nation, Misirkov sought both cultural and national differentiation from the Bulgarians and called both himself and the Slavs of Macedonia - Macedonians. Fore more see: Ivo Banac, The national question in Yugoslavia: origins, history, politics, Cornell University Press, 1988, ISBN 0-8014-9493-1, p. 327. Misirkov himself claimed 20 years later, in 1924: 1342:

development of these events led to the realisation of this aim and the Ottoman powers were obliged to accept certain reforms under pressure from the Great Powers. The explosion on 15 April aboard the Guadalquivir, a French vessel anchored in the port of Salonica, is only an episode in the incidents which followed. Half an hour later, the railway station was blown up. In the evening of 29 April, the main gas pipe was destroyed and the entire city was immediately plunged into darkness. Keep in mind that in April 1903 neither Macedonian nation, nor Macedonian language existed. Check the added into the articl sources and stop nonsenses. Thank you.

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of the Macedonian nation through the history. Macedonian historiography is revising a considerable part of ancient, medieval, and modern histories of the Balkans. Its goal is to claim for the Macedonian peoples a considerable part of what the Greeks consider Greek history and the Bulgarians Bulgarian history. The claim is that most of the Slavic population of Macedonia in the 19th and first half of the 20th century was ethnic Macedonian. For more see: Victor Roudometof, Collective Memory, National Identity, and Ethnic Conflict: Greece, Bulgaria, and the Macedonian Question, Greenwood Publishing Group, 2002,

1952:", which was developed in 1898 in Geneva in a secret, anarchistic, brotherhood called "Geneva group", played the key roles in the anti-Ottoman struggles of the Gemidzii. Nearly all them were natives from Bulgaria but despite of non-Macedonian descent, they all espoused Macedonian identity, emancipated from the pan-Bulgarian national project. For more see: Marinov, Tchavdar, We, the Macedonians: The Paths of Macedonian Supra-Nationalism (1878-1912), in We, the People: Politics of National Peculiarity in Southeastern Europe, Diana Miškova, Central European University Press, 2009, ISBN 9639776289, p. 129. 2063:

Bulgarians. By the middle of the 20th. century, however Macedonian patriots began to see Macedonian and Bulgarian national loyalties as mutually exclusive. At that time Macedonian regionalism had become Macedonian nationalism. This transformation shows that the content of collective loyalties can shift. Keep in mind, that we talk at the moment about the eve of the 20th century. For more see: Region, Regional Identity and Regionalism in Southeastern Europe, Ethnologia Balkanica Series, Klaus Roth, Ulf Brunnbauer, LIT Verlag Münster, 2010, p. 127., ISBN 3825813878.

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Organization, Macedonian commiteee, Macedonia for Macedonians, there was no slogan Macedonia for Bulgarians). Until you do not supply specific and international reference (not one that says that "all Macedonian villagers defined their identity either as 'Bulgarian,' 'Serbian,' or Greek'" the neutrality tag will stay. Please do not revert the tag. This article shows Bulgarian POV and it clashes for example with the Macedonian Knowledge page (

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between themselves and the inhabitants of Bulgaria... The question as of whether a Macedonian nation actually existed in the 1940s when a Communist Yugoslavia decided to recognize one is difficult to answer. Some observers argue that even at this time it was doubtful whether the Slavs from Macedonia considered themselves to be a nationality separate from the Bulgarians.

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these Macedonian Slavs also saw themselves as Bulgarians. By the middle of the 20th. century, however Macedonian patriots began to see Macedonian and Bulgarian loyalties as mutually exclusive. Regional Macedonian nationalism had become ethnic Macedonian nationalism... This transformation shows that the content of collective loyalties can shift.

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1878-1913) (in Bulgarian). Sophia: Izd-vo na Bŭlgarskata akademii︠a︡ na naukite. p. 73. Demetriades, Vasiles (1983). Topographia tēs Thessalonikēs kata tēn epochē tēs Tourkokratias, 1430-1912 (Topography of Thessaloniki in the Age of the Turkokratia). Makedonikē Bibliothēkē (in Greek) 61. Thessaloniki: Hetaireia Makedonikōn Spoudōn. p. 401.

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According to Stefan Troebst, Professor of East European Cultural Studies at the University of Leipzig, between Macedonian historiography and Macedonian politicians is a mutual dependence, i.e. influence between politics and historical science, where historians have the role of registrars obedient to

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As per L. Benson, who is Senior Lecturer in Politics and Sociology at the University of Northampton, under such historiography the past was systematically falsified to conceal the fact that many prominent 'Macedonians' had supposed themselves to be Bulgarians and generations of students were educated

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In this article it is present, only the Bulgarian/Greek nationalistic view. North Macedonia historical view is disgraced as history denialism. Also it contains a lot of synthesis. Can users that are not from Balkans say another opinion please? I am too a Greek person and maybe i am a lot of POV in my

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The origis of the group was in Plovdiv, Eastern Rumelia, then its ideology was developed further in Geneve, Swiss and back in Plovdiv. Its founders were Bulgarian Students: Michail Gerdzhikov, Slavi Merdzhanov, Petar Sokolov and Petar Mandzhukov. Neither Russians, nor Armenians or ethnic Macedonians.

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The English Knowledge must refer to English or scientific sources. If there are no sources the article should be neutral. Not mentioning what they were, but what they did. They were part of an anarchist group not Bulgarian anarchist group. If you remove Bulgarian as adjective and write what they did,

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The origins of the official Macedonian national narrative are to be sought in the establishment in 1944 of the Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. This open acknowledgment of the Macedonian national identity led to the creation of a revisionist historiography whose goal has been to affirm the Macedonian

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discouraged and people who express alternative views risk economic limitations, failure of academic career and stigmatization as traitors. For more see: Ulf Brunnbauer, "Serving the Nation: Historiography in the Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) after Socialism", Historien, Vol. 4 (2003-4), pp. 174-175.

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The school is mentioned by the name used in its Knowledge article. The full name ("Sts. Cyril and Methodius Bulgarian Men's High School of Thessaloniki") is mentioned there. Nothing wrong with that. There's no reason to assume it's a "potentially biased" article either. And before you start accusing

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Plaese. When you find an internationally published article in prominent historical scientific journal or book saying that the Gjemidzii group were declared as Bulgarians I will agree to cancel the neutrality tag. Please do not remove it by refering to general sources and infering. Knowledge is not a

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There is no reason to assume (as you do) that these sources are biased or fake simply because they are Bulgarian. If you can indeed find verifiable, third party sources that say the school has a different name, or is Greek, then it's another story but for now there's nothing to support your claims.

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all bulgarian and one greek,which could be fake for all we know. just a question...If I make a wikipedia article and call this school "greek high-school Ss.Cyril and methoduis" and quote 3 greek sources... does that make me right? what the school then? greek or bulgarian? all I am saying is the way

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where all the sources cited are bulgarian. in absence of neutral sources,it is best to call the high-school by its real name. "Ss. Cyril and Methodius". just because a bulgarian reverts the correct name of the school to the bulgarian-bias wikipedia "bulgarian high-school" does not mean that he will

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During the 20th century, Slavo Macedonian national feeling has shifted. At the beginning of the 20th century, Slavic patriots in Macedonia felt a strong attachment to Macedonia as a multi-ethnic homeland. They imagined a Macedonian community uniting themselves with non-Slavic Macedonians... Most of

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Indeed, i know nothing except that you didn't write a key name in your source that you have provided. Maybe it was a mistake of copy paste, in any case you didn't apologised but you are interested in my knowledge. I known nothing. I will search everything cause its obvious that here is a huge POV.

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Vanchev, Yordan (1970). Plamakat na Solunskia Svetilnik (in Bulgarian). Sofia: Narodna Prosveta. Shatev, Pavel (1934). Sbornik "Solun" (in Bulgarian). Sofia. Bozhinov, Voin (1982). Българската просвета в Македония и Одринска Тракия 1878-1913 (Bulgarian Education in Macedonia and Adrianopole Thrace

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Please do not refer to daily magazines or researchers in Republic of Macedonia or Bulgaria (they all serve someones interests in making daily or weekly spectacles). Keep it on the topic too. If it is about Gjemidzii group comment. If not, please do not write general comments about who was thinking

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Most of the Slavophone inhabitants in all parts of divided Macedonia, perhaps a million and a half in all – had a Bulgarian national consciousness at the beginning of the Occupation; and most Bulgarians, whether they supported the Communists, VMRO, or the collaborating government, assumed that all

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In order for someone to claim that there is POV at a certain article, he must provide us at Talk Page with mainstream RS that tells a different story. As far as I know, there is no mainstream narative claiming that boatmen were Macedonians. Is there? Αντικαθεστωτικός, can you provide us with one?

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Per Michael R. Palairet, who is a Cambridge scholar, in the three-way dispute about Macedonia, the Bulgarian view is closer to the objective reality of history than either the Greek or Macedonian, but the Macedonian historiographic version violates common sense and the historical record much more

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Unlike the Slovene and Croatian identities, which existed independently for a long period before the emergence of SFRY Macedonian identity and language were themselves a product federal Yugoslavia, and took shape only after 1944. Again unlike Slovenia and Croatia, the very existence of a separate

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and did not reach any consensus here. Three editors oppose to your opinion. Prevailing RS support a view, very different from your opinion. During the 20th century, Slavo-Macedonian national feelings has shifted. At the beginning of the 20th century most of the Macedonian Slavs saw themselves as

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According to the German researcher Ulf Brunnbauer, who is Chair of History of Southeast and Eastern Europe at the University of Regensburg, the modern Macedonian historiography is highly politicized, because the Macedonian nation-building process is still in development. Diverging approaches are

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This is general literature. Can you find me an international book about the assasins that shows that they are, or declared themselves as Bulgarians? I will not go in a general debate about how the Macedonians felt 100 years ago. That you can induce from the context of their struggle (Macedonian

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The key fact about Macedonian nationalism is that it is new: in the early twentieth century, Macedonian villagers defined their identity religiously—they were either "Bulgarian," "Serbian," or "Greek" depending on the affiliation of the village priest. While Bulgarian was most common affiliation

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The political and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem not to have heard Misirkov's call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarian rather than Macedonians. In spite of their political

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At the end of the WWI there were very few historians or ethnographers, who claimed that a separate Macedonian nation existed... Of those Slavs who had developed some sense of national identity, the majority probably considered themselves to be Bulgarians, although they were aware of differences

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This open acknowledgment of the Macedonian national identity led to the creation of a revisionist historiography whose goal has been to affirm the existence of the Macedonian nation through the history. Macedonian historiography is revising a considerable part of ancient, medieval, and modern

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According to the historian Eugene N. Borza, who is a professor at Pennsylvania University, the Macedonians, who are a recently emergent people and have had no history, are in search of their non existing past. This search is an attempt to help legitimize their unsure present, surviving in the

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The neutrality of this article is very poor. The attribute Bulgarian is subtly attached to anarchist group over several edits where the source is blog that discusses "Bulgarian Macedo-Adrianopolitan Revolutionary Terrorism". IMRO stands for Internal Macedonian (Adrianopolitan) Revolutionary

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As per Loring M. Danforth-professor of anthropology at Bates College, the political and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the 20th century not have heard the call for a separate Macedonian national identity and continued to identify themselves in a national sense as

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Acording to an external link added to this article, which consists from materials from the Archives from the Salonica Branch of Ottoman Bank, in April 1903 the Bulgarian comitadjis whose aim was to arouse the attention and the intervention of European opinion, multiplied their attacks. The

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political orders. There is no similar case of mutual dependence of historiography and politics on such a level in modern Europe. For more see: Stefan Trobest, “Historical Politics and Histrocial ‘Masterpieces’ in Macedonia before and after 1991”, New Balkan Politics, 6 (2003).

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Bulgarians. They never seem to have doubted the Bulgarian character of the Slavic population of Macedonia. For more see: "The Macedonian conflict: ethnic nationalism in a transnational world", Princeton University Press, Danforth, Loring. 1997, ISBN 0691043566, p. 64.

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disorder of Balkan politics. Fore more see: Eugene N. Borza, Macedonia Redux in The Eye Expanded: Life and the Arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity with Frances B. Titchener, and Richard F. Moorton as ed. University of California Press, 1999, ISBN 0520210298, p. 259.

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when they first appeared. But to argue along these lines is to accept the logic of a “quest for origins” whereby locating the “authentic” origins of a modern-day people into the distant past provides these people with a special claim to the soil they inhabit

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The source you cite says "revisionist", you say "denialist", the lede said "negationist". Those are not necessarily interchangable terms. Anyway, discussion or evaluation of Macedonian historiography is undue for the lede in this article.

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the Ss. Cyirl and Methodius school is called bulgarian is wrong. the name of the school is Sc. Cyril and Methoduis. only in the first occurence is called something like that, after that it is called simply "Bulgarian" which is incorrect.

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differences, both groups, including those who advocated an independent Macedonian state and opposed the idea of a greater Bulgaria, never seem to have doubted "the predominantly Bulgarian character of the population of Macedonia" Even

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I was surprised to see a POV template added to the article given all the sourced information and multiple POVs. Therefore I must ask - is this the discussion related to the template and, if so, which POV isn't reflected in the article?

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than either the Greek or Bulgarian ones For more see: Michael Palairet, Macedonia: A Voyage through History (Vol. 1, From Ancient Times to the Ottoman Invasions), Cambridge Scholars Publishing, 2016, ISBN 1443888435, p. 16.

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It was after the famous split of Stalin and Tito. Nothing sure can conclude from his imprisonment. They are national heroes in North Macedonia. Knowledge must present all the views with neutral point of view. I will come

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i fear that this article is a huge pov article. It contains a falsification of a source. Sources that are discussing the facts of 1944 to prove(!) that Macedonian historiography is generally full of history denialism.

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then, mistreatment by occupying Bulgarian troops during WWII cured most Macedonians from their pro-Bulgarian sympathies, leaving them embracing the new Macedonian identity promoted by the Tito regime after the war.

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They were Macedonians in regional aspect and had such regional identity, but in national sense they were Bulgarian. More, very strange but the Bulgarian students who founded in Plovdiv in 1895 the anarchistic

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Nationalism and Territory: Constructing Group Identity in Southeastern Europe, Geographical perspectives on the human past : Europe: Current Events, George W. White, Rowman & Littlefield, 2000,

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Organization (IMRO) and has no Bulgarian adjective. It has a reason why it has no Bulgarian adjective and that is because it is Macedonian. Please refer to neutral sources to support your claims (

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All included in this article. References, sources, primary, secondary, in Bulgarian language, in English, in Greek etc. Check them one by one if you wаnt. Bellow are also two Macedonian sources:

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Ummm, sorry m-r Arachinovo, but you must've missed the organization bit. Organizations have their leaders since they are organized. On theory Communists shouldn't have a leader as well ;) --

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At first the anarchists started to make plans for bomb attack in Istanbul. In the summer of 1899, under the leadership of Slavi Merdjanov the group planned the assassination of the Sultan.

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me of Bulgarian-bias too, I don't give a toss about Bulgaria or Macedonia, I care about the quality of the articles on WP. If anybody here appears to be biased, it's you. Please find

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The Bulgarian revolutionary campaign reached its peak in April 1903 when Bulgarian anarchists blew up the French steamship Guadalquivir and planted a bomb in the Ottoman Bank.

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Whether we call ourselves Bulgarians or Macedonians, we have always maintained a separate unified ethnicity, different from the Serbs, and with Bulgarian consciousness...

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page 57-58 Roudometof, Collective Memory, National Identity, and Ethnic Conflict: Greece, Bulgaria, and the Macedonian Question, Greenwood Publishing Group, 2002 :

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I don't know what your agenda is on Knowledge but changing your mind from POV accusations to falsification accusations only supports the suspicion that you're

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Up until the early 20th century and beyond, the international community viewed Macedonians as regional variety of Bulgarians, i.e. Western Bulgarians.

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Region, Regional Identity and Regionalism in Southeastern Europe, Ethnologia Balkanica Series, Klaus Roth, Ulf Brunnbauer, LIT Verlag Münster, 2010,

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The Macedonian conflict: ethnic nationalism in a transnational world", Princeton University Press, Danforth, Loring. 1997, ISBN 0691043566, p. 64.

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was the founder of Macedonian nationalism since 1900. Please add accurate the texts, and also the view of the authors. I am not playing any game.

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I will remove the neutrality tag. It is so simple. They do not need to be Macedonian or Bulgarian anarchist group. Only anarchist group works. (

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The Imperial Ottoman Bank in Salonica: the first 25 years, 1864-1890, John Karatzoglou, Ottoman Bank Archives & Research Centre, 2003,

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really identified himself as Bulgarian and why? Katardzhiev – Such questions exist. All our people named themselves as "Bulgarians"...")

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in pseudo-history. For more see: Michael L. Benson, Yugoslavia: A Concise History, Edition 2, Springer, 2003, ISBN 1403997209, p. 89.

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Macedonian identity was questioned—albeit to a different degree—by both the governments and the public of all the neighboring nations.

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Frontiers and identities: cities in regions and nations, PLUS-Pisa University Press, 2008, Luďa Klusáková; ISBN: 978-88-8492-556-5,

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on Knowledge. Try to start a general discussion on its talk-page an to gain a consensus there. Check before it some articles as:

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for your changes before you make them again. Also, your edits were breaking wiki links, please be a little more careful. Thanks,

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The writer discuss about the main view of north Macedonians, and this view is used to prove something about history denialism.

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Kaufman, Stuart J. (2001). Modern hatreds: the symbolic politics of ethnic war. New York: Cornell University Press. p. 193.

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please can you bring me the whole page? I fear that is a falsification of the source. I am certain that is not on purpose.

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Zielonka, Jan; Pravda, Alex (2001). Democratic consolidation in Eastern Europe. Oxford: Oxford University Press. p. 422.

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to be "Bulgarian" initially meant to support the Exarchgate : it was a linguistic-religious rather a natinonal category

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Already answered: "discussion or evaluation of Macedonian historiography is undue for the lede in this article" --

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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Calling the difference between "Misirskov's call" and "the call" a falsification is completely off the mark. --

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I have changed the indentation of your answers in order to make the order of the postings clearer. Please see

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Nope, Mazower does not explicitly states that Boatmen might not have been Bulgarians (per quotation provided).

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whose motto was "Neither God nor Master"-and the devout supporters of the Bulgarian Exarchate a gulf emerged.

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For that reasons i think i justify POV template. I will check for falsifications and the others sources.

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the so-called bulgarian high-school link in the article...leads to a potentially bias wikipedia article

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Of course, since the Greek and Bulgarian narratives emerged during the course of the nineteenth century

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Most of IMRO youthfull members were not much bothered about the old disputes over dead sacred languages

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Please keep the title of the section neutral. I do not have access to that particular page, have you?

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As known, the building was blown up by Bulgarian "terrorists" forty years later, on the 29 April 1903

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Thanks for your quick respond T*U. Maybe we could change the word from "denialist" to "revisionist"

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In April, 1903, the Salonika branch of the bank was bombed and burnt down by Bulgarian terrorists..

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I fear that citation 11 has been used for POV reasons too. But it is not a direct falsification.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20110714223745/http://www.obarsiv.com/english/as-salonica-branch.html

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Macedonia would fall to Bulgaria after the WWII. Tito was determined that this should not happen.

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i think the purpose of this article is not to inform but to present the one side of history.

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Misirkov was not related to this anarchist group in any way, neither to the IMRO. More, per

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Thanks Jingiby, worth noting that the sentence you are referring to is well sourced.

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Can anyone check it? I fear that the deletion of words was happened to promote POV.

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place of inferences and POV (if there is such there is a tag that I have added).

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This is the section. Please provide me the correct word to describe the above.

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Its terrorist set was stationed in Plovdiv, Istanbul, Adrianople and Salonica.

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Just to add, that these sources (10-14) don't mention Boatmen at all, but ok.

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The A to Z of the Ottoman Empire, Selcuk Aksin Somel, Scarecrow Press, 2010,

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citation 11. Do you think its quite accurate or not? i fear that it isn't.

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It is the opposite. Cause i have read it i am thinking it is heavy biased.

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This can not go on. Why do you start discussions based solely on "fears"?

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go to ani there is a discussion to ban me. Please, not here. Thank you.

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here are the sources from the article regarding the school References

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https://en.wikipedia.org/Bulgarian_Men%27s_High_School_of_Thessaloniki

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during 19century, but Greek and Bulgarian (state) historiography try

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It is often imprecisely or intentionally incorrectly referred to as

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what. That is their POV and personal POV should be out of Knowledge.

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I am going to rework this article. Nothing was redirected from the

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Salonica, City of Ghosts: Christians, Muslims and Jews 1430–1950

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The first sentences are the same, the next are not. So its not

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That above are neither Bulgarian, nor Greek nationalistic views.

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It is CLOP since the first sentence is the same. I 'll fix it.

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at the bottom. Maybe you ever did not read the whole article?

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When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the

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to affirm the existence of their nation through the history

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So i think it's not clear that they were just Bulgarians.

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for additional information. I made the following changes:

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I will repeat, you are not so familiar with that issue.

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but one can read at ref number 11 of current version: "

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