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lede seems to state that Alexius Slav took control of the entirety, or at least majority, of the Rhodope Mountains region. The text here states had control of the castle, which was merely in the Rhodope Mountains region. If he indeed only had control of the castle and surrounding regions, correct the
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That is all my suggestions. A very nice article, very little of it has issues so much as could be phrased better. Enjoyed the read; if you'd like me to review further articles in future I would be happy to. Once the issue of the Madgearu dating and Barbolova, Zoya" and "George Akropolite" citation
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Boril launched an invasion of Serbia, laying siege to Niš in 1214, aided by troops sent by Henry; at the same time, Strez invaded Serbia from the south, although he was killed during his campaign. Boril was unable to seize Niš however, due to conflicts between the Bulgarian and Latin
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if it claims a whole different killer, then it must be a different version; also suggest changing "murderer" to "killer", if Manastras was a war enemy then killer works better because it doesn't carry the same tone of illegality/underhandedness as murderer. Overall, suggest
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Boril was beaten by Ivan Asen in battle, and forced to withdraw to Tarnovo, which Ivan's troops laid siege to. The Byzantine historian, George Akropolites, stated that the siege lasted "for seven years", however most modern historians believe that it was actually seven
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Henry sent reinforcements to Boril who invaded Serbia and laid siege to Niš in 1214. Strez also invaded Serbia from the south, but he was killed during the campaign. Conflicts between Boril and the Latin troops prevented them from capturing the
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In the reign of Kaloyan, the Greek noblemen of eastern Thrace had risen up against the Bulgarian Empire, seeking assistance from the Latin Empire; this rebellion would continue against Boril, who left for Thrace to reconquer the region in May
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Boril was deprived of his two principal allies by 1217, as Latin Emperor Henry died in July 1216, and Andrew II left Hungary to lead a crusade to the Holy Land in 1217; this position of weakness enabled his cousin, Ivan Asen, to invade
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The Latin Emperor Henry died in July 1216; Andrew II left Hungary to lead a crusade to the Holy Land in 1217. Being deprived of his two principal allies, Boril's position weakened, which enabled his cousin, Ivan Asen, to return to
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Boril desired peace because had already realised that he would be unable to regain the Thracian territories lost to the Latin Empire, and Henry wanted peace with Bulgaria in order to resume his war against Empeeror Theodore I
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Boril had already realised that he would be unable to regain the Thracian territories lost to the Latin Empire. However, Henry wanted to resume the war against Theodore I Laskaris, to put an end to his conflict with
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suggest mentioning why it violated canon law (presumably due to the marriage to the widow of a relative, per Old Testament laws on such), and change "the Church" to either "the state church" or "the Bulgarian
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Boril was defeated and forced to withdraw to Tarnovo. The Byzantine historian, George Akropolites, stated that the siege lasted "for seven years", but he must have confused months for years, according to most
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sort of confusing, but the gist I am understanding is that Boril accepted he wouldn't be able to regain Thrace, and Henry wanted to end the conflict in order to war against Theodore I? If so I'd suggest
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The Greek noblemen of eastern Thrace had risen up already and sought assistance from the Latin Empire during the reign of Kaloya. Boril left for Thrace to reconquer the region in May 1208.
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Different citation templates for primary sources is not unprecedented in other GAs and academic sources almost always use different citation styles for primary and secondary sources.
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generally in English, so far as I have been taught, you seek the assistance of a person, or from a thing; it is grammatically correct to switch the two, but it is odd to read.
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The Madgearu source is with a 2016 date in citations, but given a 2017 date in Secondary sources, breaking the ref template; please correct whichever date is wrong. --
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Would also mention the possibility that the marriage to Kumankata was done to gain the support of the Cumans, as this is mentioned in Early life and seems pertinent.
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Suggest moving the second paragraph on to the beginning of the "Disintegration" section; and perhaps renaming it to "Rise to the throne" or something similar.
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Boril was unable to suppress the rebellion without external assistance. He turned to Andrew II of Hungary, reminding him of "their reliable friendship"
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The etymology of his name is uncertain, because it may be connected either to the Slavic verb boriti ("to fight"), or to the Turkic noun böri ("wolf").
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Boril was unable to suppress the rebellion without external assistance, turning to Andrew II of Hungary, reminding him of "their reliable friendship"
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Suggest re-introducing Fine as John Fine, because it has been a while since the reader has heard of him, and its a common word in English.
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Boril was the son of a sister of Peter II, Ivan Asen I and Kaloyan, who were emperors (or tsars) of the restored Bulgarian Empire.
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He convoked the synod of the Bulgarian Church in early 1211. At the assembly, the bishops condemned the Bogomils for heresy.
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The "Barbolova, Zoya" and "George Akropolite" references do not use the SFN reference template used by all other citations.
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Akropolites described Boril's first wife, Kumankata, the widow of Kaloyan as a "Scythian" (more properly known as Cuman).
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She was not called Kumankata (see above). "Cuman" is not more proper. Is Magyar more proper than Hungarian in English?
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A third relative, Alexius Slav, took possession of the region of his castle at Tsepina in the Rhodope Mountains.
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After Kaloyan died unexpectedly in October 1207, Boril married his widow, a Cuman princess, to seize the throne.
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in lede it states that this took place in 1208, suggest including this here if that can be verified; suggest
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Thank you for your comprehensive review. I highly appreciate your hard work. Please find my comments below.
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part to "Synod of 1211", or something similar, as it seems like such a page has potential to be created.
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After Ivan Asen's troops seized the town in 1208, Boril attempted to flee, but was captured and blinded.
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lede to clarify this; if, as I assume, he actually wielded control over the mountain regions, suggest
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Madgearu says he also renounced the lands that Andrew had claimed from Bulgaria (including Braničevo)
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Rumours started to spread claiming that the patron saint of the besieged town, Demetrius, killed him.
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In early 1214, Boril proposed the hand of his daughter to Andrew II of Hungary's son and heir, Béla.
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Please note that all of these are suggestions, and can be implemented or ignored at your discretion.
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After Ivan Asen's troops entered the town, Boril tried to flee, but he was captured and blinded.
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Stefan Nemanjić broke into Macedonia and occupied the land between the Struma and Vardar rivers.
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took possession of the region of the Rhodope Mountains, which surrounded his castle at Tsepina.
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expectation of "sister" is that one person will follow, so suggest removing surprise by saying
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Rumors began to spread that he was killed by Demetrius, the patron saint of the besieged town.
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Akropolites described Boril's first wife (the widow of his uncle) as a "Scythian" (or Cuman).
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three emperors (or tsars) of the restored Bulgarian Empire, Peter II, Ivan Asen I and Kaloyan
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After Kaloyan died unexpectedly in October 1207, Boril married his widow, a Cuman princess,
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suggest linking burghers to Burgher (title), and explaining their role/significance here.
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Boril's marriage to her violated canon law, but the Church did not protest against it.
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riot doesn't track with the same intensity of "uprising", suggest changing to
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would explain that Kaloyan was the one laying siege to Thessaloniki; perhaps
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Boril married Kaloyan's widow either to strengthen his claim to the throne,
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Boril seized the throne, and married the widow of Kaloyan, a Cuman princess
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Would mention that Boril was also the nephew of Peter II and Ivan Asen I.
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However, Henry intervened and made his own supporter the ruler of Serres.
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Boril was captured by Ivan Asen, who had him blinded in Tarnovo in 1218.
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with the assistance of Alexius Slav. Alexius Slav also captured Melnik.
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Kaloyan died suddenly during the siege of Thessaloniki in October 1207.
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the lands that Andrew had claimed from Bulgaria (including Braničevo)
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He defeated Boril, who was captured and blinded in Tarnovo in 1218.
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but the marriage never took place, due to the deposition of Boril.
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with the assistance of Alexius Slav, who had also captured Melnik.
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The Latins captured Plovdiv and Alexius Slav paid homage to Henry
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Manastras was allegedly persuaded to kill the tsar by the saint.
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a statement about Boril's seizing the throne after his marriage.
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Henry intervened and made his own supporter the ruler of Serres.
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would also include the name of "his own supporter" if possible.
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Kumankata is not her name (as per above). Her name is unknown.
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A version of these stories names one Manastras as the murderer.
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The Greek burghers of Serres in the Kingdom of Thessalonica
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Would mention that the Cuman princess' name was Kumankata.
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who had made peace with the Latins, broke into his realm.
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most likely in cooperation with Kaloyan's wife, Kumankata
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In early 1214, Boril offered the hand of his daughter,
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name in marriage to Béla, Andrew II's son and heir.
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