Talk:Boston (disambiguation)

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site, of the first 10 search results for "Boston", 5 were for Mass., 2 were Boston Castle (in Yorks, not Lincs), and 2 were for Lincs. On The Times' site, 6 were for Mass., 2 were for companies (Boston Beer and Credit Suisse First Boston -- both related to Mass.), and 3 were for Lincs. On (.au Australian Web sites), 5 were for Mass., and 5 were for names of entities (Boston Marriage, Boston Globe, Boston Marks Group Ltd., Boston Legal -- three related to Mass.); none had anything to do with Lincs. So I think the evidence is quite clear that *even in the UK* (outside Lincs, presumably), Boston's "primary meaning" is Boston, Massachusetts. I haven't checked other non-UK, non-Commonwealth sources, but I'm quite sure that "Boston" in Moscow or Rio de Janeiro or Tokyo or Cairo also refers to Boston, Mass. --

1807:'Proud' seems to be the key word here, and I'm proud to see that some of my fellow British Bostonians have been sticking up for the old place. However, despite Boston's historical importance, there's no doubt that Boston, Mass., is the more famous of the two. I've expanded the first sentence, which is now a touch on the long side for a disambiguation page, but which - I hope - now acknowledges both the origin of the name (in Lincolnshire) and its most well-known use (in Massachusetts). I know I'm late to this argument, but what do people think? It seems like a simple, good-faith way of handling the whole thing. 159: 131: 244: 169: 292: 256: 342: 324: 697:

The Boston, Mass., area is home to Harvard and MIT; one of the world's largest concentrations of biotech companies; many important historical sites; the Massachusetts state government; and the Red Sox, Celtics, Bruins and Patriots (sort of). I'm sure Boston, England, is a wonderful place, but I can't imagine that anyone outside of the immediate vicinity is thinking of it when they say "Boston." No one complains that

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looking for something by name they always mean the first thing ever to bear that name? Yes, you claim you only want Boston to be the disambiguation page, but putting Boston, UK on the same footing as Boston, MA is giving it higher priority. That is our point. One can still get to Lincolnshire if Massachusetts was not where one meant to go, but in all probability it was. --

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is suggesting that the 'Boston' page should be redirected to the Lincolnshire page, but the Boston, Lincolnshire article should atleast have some prominence on the disambiguation page! there's some blatant american favouritsm on this page to simply adding a small note that the Boston in Lincolnshire was the first such named city.

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I agree with Bedesboy! I come from Louth, which is near Grimsby, which is, in turn, near Boston, and Boston does have some rather large significance compared to the Massacheaut one (hope a spelt it right). It has to be noted that, without the Lincolnshire Boston, the American Boston wouldn't be named

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well that's a crap analogy because London, England is far bigger, the original and historically way more important than London, Ontario. Whereas Boston, Mass may be larger and in present-day more important, Boston, Lincolnshire was the first such named town and has historically more important. nobody

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Aha. Well, I disagree with the person who raised this movereq and will not fight their battles for them (though after so many opposes there's no need to put the boot in), but that editor claims never to have heard of the Boston in the USA, and they have also done much the same movereq (with the same

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have nothing else to worry about, but seriously: Which city has contributed more to world history? I should hope your countrymen are still aware of the tea party, massacre, etc. Nevermind the great number of contributions the MA city has made or fostered since the revolution. There is not nearly as

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1. The reason London isn't disambiguated is because it is the original city with that name and generally know all around the world to be in England. 2. Just because something is more popular on Google, doesn't mean it should be more popular here. If you searched Nirvana or Franz Ferdinand, the most

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I'm sorry but the city Boston, Massachusetts is far more well known and holds a deeper historical context. It is well known, it is not favoritism towards Americans, it is doing what is proper. Last time I checked, he didn't do this London. The English need to relax and realize that this page should

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I just Googled "Boston," on google.ca, and the first reference to Boston, England, didn't come up until the 256th result. Even on google.co.uk, only one of the first 50 results refer to the English city. The Boston, Mass., area has 6.1 million people; the Boston, England, area has less than 60,000.

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I agree, as well. I did a Google search and only found 183 thousand hits for "Boston, Lincolnshire" vs. over 47 million hits for "Boston, Massachusetts". That's 257 times as many hits. Not even close. The only people for which the two cities will have equal significance are those living in the

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points to a settlement in the Netherlands rather than a larger settlement in South Africa which got its name the same way Boston did, but I wouldn't consider that a sign of deep-seated anti-South-African bias. Sometimes disagreements about naming policy are just disagreements about naming policy.

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The order things "appeared" does not matter, nor was that at all the point. The selection of Paris, TX was to refute your idea that a podunk town ought to have some higher priority than the world-class city of the same name. Other than yourself, can you provide any instances where when people are

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I find it rude that when I type Boston I didn't get either the general search or Boston Massachussetts. I had to go to Massachussetts and click on Boston there. I was redirected to some small town in europe in linconshire. That's not right! There are other Bostons out there. I never heard of the

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and back again (not that I will do it), but I believe the signpost is appropriate immunisation for me from caring. Although there is obviously some degree of pride involved here, my main motivation is that people are not led to believe that there is only one historically significant place in the

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WP policy is pretty clear. The criterion is not size or importance or age, but what the "well known primary meaning" is, "much more used than any other". I think it's pretty clear that in North America, the primary meaning is Boston, Massachusetts, so I checked some non-US sources. On the BBC

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It also puzzles me that "North Boston" and "South Boston" are listed on this page, but that "New Boston" is linked to a separate page. I believe the term "North Boston" also has a specific meaning in Massachusetts, so surely they have similar status. I don't know whether that is an argument for

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I find it vaguely offensive that this article states: "Boston most commonly refers to the following city: * Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.". In an American context this may be true, but historically, Boston, Lincolnshire is at least as important as its younger namesake. If I knew how it should be

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What I think Cycle is referring to is movereqs at Lincoln, Dover, Plymouth and elsewhere where primary topic guidelines have been ignored and and British editors have been disproportionately vocal, sometimes to the point of POV pushing. Is that about right, Cycle?

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it's quite enough with the link to the disambiguationpage on top of the page. I don't think anyone has to read very much in the article before she realizes she is reading about the "wrong" Boston, if in fact she was looking for some other entity by this name.

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considering all the other notable Bostons. I'm surprised by the idea that notability descends with the inheritance of names - does this mean that most Bruces on Knowledge (XXG), including Robert the Bruce, are less important than the little village of

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as "Boston" - concerned because it had not been mentioned here (where there would no doubt be many interested parties). I am pleased nevertheless that the discussion has obviously concluded without concensus. The only matter that remains is that the

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Size or (relative) importance should not dictate where the redirect goes. In my opinion there is enough debate to justify pointing Boston to this disambiguation page, instead of to the supposed most important place with that name.

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I agree with Golbez, and I'm saying that as someone for whom the word "Boston" immediately brings to mind the place in Lincolnshire. I will slightly rearrange the disambiguation page, but there's no doubt in my mind that

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Fair enough: *I* know that South Lincolnshire is the heartland of civilisation and gives birth to the world's most attractive and intelligent sons and daughters, but I'm not going to go against the consensus ;)

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I don't know anything about Boston, Lincolnshire, but the article doesn't suggest any historical importance at all. Most significant thing the town is known for, probably is that it gave its name to Boston. --

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Just because something is more popular on Google doesn't mean it can't be the primary meaning. If you searched Rolling Stones, the most common results are for the band, and Knowledge (XXG) redirects to the

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and is intent on having his own way. Would someone please explain that "firstness" is not a qualification of "most-importantness?" It's a disambiguation page, intended for the most common forms. —

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I appreciate your gesture, but (there's always a "but," isn't there?) I believe that such a long opening is unnecessary. The fact that the US Boston is named after the UK Boston is found in both

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It was one of England's busiest ports 7-800 years ago, and has been moderately important since. I love the place, but you're basically right - it's only known outside England because of the

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Just because something is the original name-holder doesn't automatically make it the primary meaning, nor does it automatically preclude something else from being the primary meaning.

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Kind of rediculous. Clearly the primary topic is Boston, Mass. Around the world if you say Boston, more than likely they mean that one. Except maybe people near the other small ones. -

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beause that Paris was named after the original Paris. In this case, it is the other way around. I feel like I am repeating myself. I also would keep The Big Clock Where it is.

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In modern times, a search for "Boston" is more than likely to be for the U.S. city. Per primary topic disambiguation, the unqualified term can be used for the primary topic. --

1952:— Per privious nomination, the town in Lincolnshire gives it's name to the American Boston, so is just as notable if not more notable. I would even go as far to say 1803:'Boston, Boston, Boston, Thou has naught to boast on - A grand sluice, a mighty steeple, A proud, conceited, ignorant people: and a coast which souls are lost on!' 2484: 2469: 1405:... and if there were no primary topic it would. But since the primary topic for "Boston" is the city in Mass., that's where the base name goes (redirects). See 206: 2519: 2489: 2474: 1277:

Stipulating that the entire population of the UK thinks of Boston, Lincs, first, I rather doubt the remaining billion-plus English speakers of the world do.

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Which "Boston" came first does not need to be paraded about on the page. It isn't relevant to the disambiguation process, and it isn't even mentioned in the

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Boston, Mass is clearly the primary topic by the ways we measure primary topic around here. Is this a reaction to the Plymouth and Dover move proposals?

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reasoning) to a large Australian settlement that shares a name with a smaller British settlement, and another in Canada, so I doubt this is motivated by "

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has a population of 35,124. Boston, MA has a population of nearly 600,000 within the city limits and the Boston metropolitan area has 4.4 million.

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for "Boston" and a bunch of other placenames will come up, including a ridge, some bays, and there are actually three Bostons in Ontario, plus

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other boston was deeply offended it didn't direct to Boston in the USA. If there are other bostons then it should go to a disambiguation page!

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Why don't you get Plymouth fixed first? There's actually data there showing disputed primarity, while you haven't provided any here.

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Do you have evidence of this bias? If so it should probably be reported somewhere. Right here, all I see is a big stack of Opposes.

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That's because what you're saying is not the way we do things. What matters is what speakers of all varieties of English mean by

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at 11th position - hardly 256th, and not bad at all considering the huge number of multi-nationals based in its daughter city.

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listing the "New Boston" examples here or creating a new page for "North Boston". Maybe it is neither, but it deerves remark.

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. As there's no contentious debate here I'm going ahead and closing this per

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Since I started this discussion all that time ago, I feel I ought to come back in and state my view. Since the remarks of

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I don't have the time or inclination to list them all here, or add them, as for now they'd mostly be redlinks; but

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This has been discussed before, and should stay as the US city, as per all of the reasons stated above. --

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much amibguity in saying just "Boston" as their is in "Salem," and therefore nothing should change. --

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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with

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The people whom are most disturbed/annoyed are the readers, whom seem to have not been acounted for.

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I've been around on Knowledge (XXG) for a while, but I'm no expert, so I'll put out a question on

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should point to this disambiguation page, and Boston, Lincolnshire should be the first entry. See

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I absolutely agree it should get second billing - but Boston should redir to the Mass city. --

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The reason Boston isn't disambiguated (at the base name) is because it has a primary meaning.

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page, I was a little concerned that a discussion had been going on there about renaming the

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suggestion seemed particularly even-handed - this is meant to be an international resource.

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that English usage is to use unmodified Boston for the Lincolnshire town would be welcome

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common results are the bands, although Knowledge (XXG) doesn't redirect to the bands.

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expressed I would give these two towns equal billing on the disambiguation page.

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Crouch, you can't support a movereq you yourself started. That's voting twice.

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as it is, and it probably won't have as much significance in America as it has.

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Here are some more that supposedly exist, but don't seem to have entries yet:

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should point. No sense in just discussing this on the disambiguation page. --

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That's all I was ever looking for. I'm ducking out now. Thanks for your help.

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Shouldn't this be a move-multi? And shouldn't the nominator have notified

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lead to the American city since it is far more well known.

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currently disambiguated, just not at the base name. --

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pages on Knowledge (XXG). If you wish to help, you can

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People in Texas are aware of Paris, TX. Does not mean

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redirect points (within reason). While looking at the

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redirect is probably going to continue swinging from

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but it doesn't redirect to the band. Same case with

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I am now perfectly happy wherever the 367:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Lincolnshire 1698:Boston, Orange Free State, South Africa 320: 127: 49: 2485:Disambig-Class Massachusetts articles 2470:Disambig-Class United States articles 1490:should change? I'm sure the folks in 476:Knowledge (XXG):Village pump (policy) 7: 2520:Disambig-Class Lincolnshire articles 2490:NA-importance Massachusetts articles 2475:NA-importance United States articles 1766:article. Please stop adding it in. — 1031:, doesn't mean it is more popular. 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