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274: 180: 153: 190: 85: 1683: 64: 33: 262: 314: 488:"The Black Community" did no such thing. The Black community in Hunters Point is a result of it being a cheap place to live. The Shipyard was built by a large corporation that found the shoreline suitable for large dock facilities, and it was built decades before there was a significant number of Blacks in the area. 1735:
anthropologists and linguists do not mention the Ramaytush. This alone does not provide proof of an earlier band as present or not present, but certainly they are missing from historical documentation in the 1800s and early 1900s. Editing in the document looks to me like both bands may have weighed in.
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America. As for South India? Never heard that one before, but I'm sure you mean India and are confusing it with the term South Asian or East Indian. All "blacks' " ancestry is in africa so they do come from there just as Asians come from Asia and Europeans come from Europe. Also don't be offended, In
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I recently reverted the replacement of the term "African American" throughout the article with the term "Black". This edit was made by an anonymous IP user 24.209.46.175, and I felt that it was probably done by someone with malicious intent. Since then, the user has supplied the following argument:
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There is an unfortunate rift of many years among groups who may be descendants of various Ohlone bands who inhabited this greater Bay Area since long before the colonial era and modernity. The federal government gives recognition status to tribes and bands with a complex artifact history; wishing to
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Yes its true they are not all from there but most Americans are not from anywhere but this country. African American simply means persons of (Native) African Ancestry who live in America. Since this is a United States article, the United States Census Beareu terms for race/ethnicity are used. Jamica
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There is no mention of Greenaction for Health and Environmental Justice and their involvement in environmental engagement in Bayview. I also believe that it would be valuable from an environmental health standpoint to have a list of all the industries and companies involved in the Bayview (in terms
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Because, although reasonable housing prices are 'declining' (because there are less inexpensive homes for sale) it is more natural to say that the prices themselves are increasing. You wouldn't say 'America's reasonably priced toys have declined due to a surge in popularity amongst yuppies.' No.
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Because the neighborhood of "Bayview" doesn't modify the neighborhood of "Hunters Point," but they are instead combined from two neighborhoods into one, due to their commonalities in comparison and contrast to the rest of the city, I would propose changing the name of this article to employ an en
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A couple years ago when I spoke in person at the Stanford Powwow to the chief of the Muwekma Band, they only commented that there are many hopefuls who wish to benefit from confusion and lack of evidence. More than this, when Stanford, many years ago, repatriated skeletal remains from its museum
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Recently, edits have removed sourced text from the article which describes the "marginalization" of the neighborhood and its modern problems. It appears that this has been an attempt to cleanse the article of any negative statements about the modern condition of Bayview-Hunters Point. This is
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The term Ramaytush is a construct from some decades ago; this is a group who, regretably, were unable to gain federal recognition even while getting local institutions to support the idea of their heritage. The DNA remains of the Muwekma Band of Ohlone are those who merit mention here. Early
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What about when people dumped toxic chemicals in hunters point and caused radiation and cancer to surrounding neighborhoods? I don't know too much about it but can someone write something about that? Also, Hunters Point is on the National Priorities List to be cleaned up. And how about some
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South Africa related articles the term "Coloured" is used, because in that country the lingo there means a person of mixed african and european ancestry while here its a somtimes insensing term. All people in the United States are hyphen-Americans. Don't take it the wrong way.
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I have rewritten most of the article according to current reliable sources. It can use additional expansion, but any changes to the article must be made with regard to NPOV and WEIGHT. And any removal of sourced information should first be discussed on this talk page.
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I was wondering this myself. I guess the only people that could answer this question authoritatively are residents of the area or people in San Francisco government. If we get a definitive answer, every instance in the article should be updated to match.
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I was confused by this sentence and think it is a run-on. the Black-community established the Shipyard and the jobs...right? Right. So then, new sentence: However, the more reasonable housing prices have recently increased due to gentrification.
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statistics about how residents in Hunters Point are twice as likely to die from breast cancer as compared to the rest of the bay area which is already the highest in the city? Or what about the residents' babies are 2.5 times more likely to die?
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I would also be interested in any academic literature, environmental or otherwise, that use Bayview as a case study for environmental health and justice. So far, there seems to be a lack of academic literature on the specific case of Bayview.
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The entry uses the term "native population," which is ignorant of Bayview history. For example, the neighborhood had a large Maltese and Italian population (among other immigrant groups) before the shipyard changed the demographics.
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I just changed from "African-American" to Black, because not all Blacks come from Africa, and yet there is white Africans... What would you call a person from Jamaica, South India, or Central/South America with Black skin
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be a descendant is another matter, and my point is not to dispute or support one band or another, some of whom hope to gain recognition and with it, autonomy and gaming rights.
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Here is a report about contaminated fish in Bayview waters that is worse than any other place in the Bay Area. Here is the link if anyone thinks its noteworthy of inlcusion.
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It seems that the official way to refer to this place is «Hunters» but the form «Hunter's» is also used. Are both okay or the second one's just a mispelling? Cheers.
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Here is a supporting bit of evidence on the long time existence of the Muwekma in San Francisco. Some records may be accessed at the old Mission Dolores too.
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Shouldn't the stylization of this community's name—and therefore of the article itself—employ an en dash (–) rather than a hyphen (-)?
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