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I suggest either editing the paragraph and/ or cross-referencing another wikipedia page (topic) for clarity and intellectual justice. And I strongly suggest that all readers take note of the discussions on this page and others. It seems more relevant than some wikipedia topics we read that are not
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The lead paragraph says that Bahia is "located in the northeastern part of the country", and the infobox includes this map. Why is that called "northeastern" Brazil? "Eastern" it certainly is, but how "north"? It looks to me like it's roughly equidistant from the northern and southern boundaries of
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I am not sure how the first sentence is supported and makes itself evident, other than by simple statement or seemingly popular belief. The second paragrhaph seems to allude to some questions and pursue a more veracious standpoint, but perhaps it is not nearly as forthecoming as it should be. And
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COMMENT: This is a helpful introduction to two of the various shades of meaning in the term "Bahia". One more should be added -- since the article itself falls victim to a confusion of the meanings later on. "Bahia" in popular usage nationally refers above all to the *cultural region* of the
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This page is generally good and helpful, but I did find the history to be somewhat misleading, even if well written. Perhaps it was almost too convincing at first and I am glad that I have since found competing information on wikipedia, but also at the library and elsewhere on the internet.
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I added the gallery of images yesterday to clean up the page a bit because it's so overloaded with images and that's affecting how headings and paragraphs are displayed (see above discussion). The images that are now in the gallery used to all be on the right-side of the
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seria a de "Sul" e "Centro-Oeste" ou o Brazil deveria ser dividido em apenas duas regiões (Norte-Sul, Leste-Oeste ou Oriente-Ocidente). Obs: Essa resposta não foi apenas dirigida ao usuário "Jim10701", mas a todos que tiverem essa duvida. Agradeço a atenção.
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Olá, eu sou brasileiro e irei escrever em português, pois não sou suficientemente fluente em inglês para assim escrever (Peço desculpas adiantadas por isso). O seu questionamento é compreensível, porém não há sentido em mudar um termo aceito no
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