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Mountains" is the English name of a range that is not in any way under any English language influence, hence the local generally accepted and recognized name should be respected. Moreover the name "Balkan Mountains" has no historical value to the area, and is too general and vague, borderline meaningless, with no etymology or history. Google statistics about the use of the name is strictly discouraged by Knowledge (XXG), also it is something that has nothing to do with what should be featured in an Encyclopedia, as it only demonstrates suppressing knowledge based on status quo and the power of English language names. (
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These "talks" are absolutely useless since nobody reads them, but since there is no other form of communication and discussion - thank you for doing this. The title of the article should say "Balkan
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While translating this article into Arabic i became confused. Stara
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