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over life and limb of their subjects. once the extortion by these sardras was disallowed, they started this terrorist campaign against their own people, on the lines that taliban of pakistan perpetrated on the people of khyber pakhtoonkhwa province. these sardars have not allowed schools, colleges and are against allowing women out without purdah, not for religious reasons but for feudal oppression. they bury women alive if accused of immodesty and suspicions of liking someone other than allowed by their sardars; there was a case of four young women buried alive when they were accused of flirting with some men in the village; they have not allowed any development in the province as they mobilize their 'troops' against any such moves. BLA is now playing in the hands of foreign intelligence agencies trying to destabilize pakistan.
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shot and killed 16 soldiers, wounding an additional 13 soldiers in two attacks in Marwar and
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The article is not about what we believe to be true, it's about summarising facts. The term "terrorist" is appropriate to use in contexts such as "such and such government has listed the BLA as a terrorist group (footnote)." Use outside that context is controversial, and I think most folks would
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Well, There is a separate article for the attack, but we will need its summary here too, because BLA was it preparator. Besides I am not concerned with the "13 lines", "large-scale changes" can be made with 5 lines even. I am not talking about "large-line changes". You are
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Can you explain the reasons of you reverting my edits to the article? As far as I am concerned, nothing relevant was dropped out of the article except multitude of headers and repeat information contained in a linked article. Can you specify what you didn't like about the edit?
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edit, but the unexplained section blanking is not acceptable. My regrets for the revert, but please restore the section if you edit the article, I am not your enemy, or this is not that like I dislike your editing. My regards.
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Kindly look into it and remove such unsubstantiated and unverifiable claims made from sources which themselves are highly biased in nature and goes against
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Ok, I have edited the parts of this article which could be perceived as POVs. If anyone has any objections regarding my edits please let me know.
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repeatedly keeps modifying the article by inserting the "terrorism", "terrorist", etc., labels with relation to BLA, thus promoting
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is totally appropriat e becaust the UKHO did indeed declare the BLA a terrorist organisation. That doesn't mean they
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I've altered the use of the words terror to something less POV and left it where cited and appropriate.
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