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back scenes, so your argument is invalid. You claim that my editing contains original research despite the fact that any reasonable person would conclude that Bane was born in the prison based on the sources which are direct quotes from the movie. According to your argument, Bane just happened to be born in another prison and ended up in the Pit somehow, even though he considers the prison that he apparently wasn't born in his home. How come he says that he didn't see the light until he was grown up, even though according to you he must have been out of prison at some point before being incarcerated again? Don't be silly.
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suffering, and hardened by pain gave the character the ability to escape. Bane did not ever escape, perhaps because he did not ever have these special qualities, it's not definitive one way or the other; it's used as a form of misdirection by the storytellers. There were at least two pre-release books before the film came out (with misdirection on some subjects), one writer said that said Bane was born in a prison, "Little is known about Bane. He was born in prison and trained in the darkest forms of deception by the League of Shadows" (from
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there to mask the reveal of the film. What was Bane's origin thought to be before the reveal? Oh, that he originated in the Pit. After all is said and done, where precisely Bane was born isn't addressed by the film, and it's not even important to the writers of said story by the end. Writing fan fiction is fine on some messageboard, but not in the article. Were there multiple pregnant women getting sent to the Pit to give birth at different times? Never addressed in the film's story.
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Bane was also born there is drawing conclusions based on original research which on wikipedia is unacceptable. Contrastingly, it makes no sense for him to be born IN the pit because he did not sound anything like the rest of the inhabitants there.He would have sounded like them if he was indeed born and raised and stayed there until the league's invasion.
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just according to me that bane was born and raised somewhere else - tom hardy himself said part of the influence on the voice was bane's caribbean heritage. so there you go. he wouldn't put a Caribbean influence on his voice if his character's origins were strictly on the pit. it's not being silly, it's being reasonable.
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that he was born in the Pit, Bane even says that he was born in and spent his whole life in "darkness" until he was a man, which is when he was rescued by Ra's al Ghul. And after all that, he takes Batman to the prison in question. It doesn't make any sense for him to be born in another prison or anywhere else.
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Wrong. The only person in the movie with speaking lines who was in the Pit while Bane and Talia were living there was the doctor who operated on Bane, and he sounded nothing like Talia, which doesn't make sense based on your logic. Never do you hear any of the other inhabitants speak during the flash
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The prisoners never said more than one child was born there either. So we can't go based off what we think. What we know, is that Talia al Ghul is the infamous child born in the Pit, talked about throughout the film's second and third acts. Moreover, the film never explicitly states bane was born in
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You're right in a way. Because the child was "born in hell", she had the will or the special drive to escape the Pit, unlike Bruce who was born in privilege. However, if Bane was not there to lift her up, there would be no way she would have made it. Bane may have had the will to escape, but he never
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I looked at those edits. They don't make anything up. They only show comprehension of the film. The edits of those like you, on the other hand, introduce notions that are not in your sources. You haven't addressed what I said about your weasel words making it look as if the source says anything about
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section, it's beyond embarrassing to read. If you were so intent on including those sources you should have first learned how to do it properly and without such flimsy claims for Tom Hardy's Bane. You did not pay attention at all to any of my reasoning. Does this read coherently at all? Did you have
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If the editors cannot come to an agreement whether Bane was born in the Pit or not, the page should leave it ambiguous that neither confirms nor denies it to be true. Perhaps it should say that Bane "is said to have been born and raised" in the pit "where the viewer is led to believe he escaped from
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I could say the same about you. What's known: there is discussion in the film about one child, one person, born in the pit and eventually escaped. What's disputed: if bane was also born in the pit. The film revolves around the one child who was born and raised and escaped, and that was Talia. Saying
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with other stuff. Second, the film itself says Bane is rumored to be born and raised in the Pit according to Alfred. That was his supposed origin story. McWeeny compares it to the multiple-choice backstory that leaves the Joker's origin ambiguous. He says this whole "origin of Bane" business is just
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It's open to interpretation where Bane originated from in the film, unlike Talia. She definitely originated in the Pit. Bane is just subject to Alfred's rumors and Bruce repeating it while in the Pit (PRISONER: A child born in this hell. WAYNE: Bane... (CUT TO SHOT OF CHILD THAT IS LATER REVEALED TO
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Bruce's companion AND the doctor both speak with a middle eastern accent and the doctor was there at the same time bane was. As such, neither of tom hardy's specified voice influences link to the Pit, which is a Middle Eastern location. The point here is, it does not make sense to say bane was born
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The prisoners never actually say that there was only one child born there. They were only telling the story of the legendary child who escaped. Talia's story doesn't contradict Bane's comment about being born in the dark. In fact, it compliments it since he said that he didn't see the light till he
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The only reason Talia escaped was because Bane helped her escape, not because of any natural special abilities that you claim, although growing up in the Pit may have helped. Also, the prisoners of the Pit appear to be of various ethnic backgrounds. Bane's accent in the movie is somewhat ambiguous.
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I agree, the only thing we know about Bane's birthplace is that it was a prison. He was NOT born in the Pit, this was entirely a misdirection and needs to be stopped from being put into the article. Tom Hardy even said one of the influences for Bane's voice was his comic book heritage, it would not
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Bruce's companion was not in the Pit when Bane and Talia were down there, so your argument is invalid again. Tom Hardy also said that Bane's accent was inspired by a Gypsy bareknuckle boxer, as well as old Latin, which isn't anywhere near Caribbean. The point is, Tom Hardy incorporated a number of
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I've explained what bane calling the pit "home" would've meant. also, talia left the pit when she was still a child so for her it makes sense to not sound like the rest of the inhabitants. and it wasn't just the doctor in the pit who was speaking, it was also bruce's companion. more over, it's not
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Yet, you're basing you edits off of what you think. The concept of Bane being born in the prison is never dispelled by Talia's reveal. It simply shows the audience that Talia was the legendary child who escaped and that Bane was the legendary protector. Along with the intel found by Alfred stating
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In one of his attempts to escape the Pit, Bruce exclaims to another prisoner that he said a child did it. And the prisoner responds "not just any child. A child born in hell." So the prisoner is making it sound like a child who was born in the Pit had natural special abilities capable of escaping.
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Believe it or not, it's possible to have a Caribbean accent and be born in a non-Caribbean country (not that we even know where the Pit is). That's a very weak argument. And yes, Easyjusteasy, before the reveal he was thought to have been born in the Pit. This is not dispelled by the reveal in the
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ArtistScientist, you completely missed my point. Tom Hardy said one of the things that influenced the way Bane sounds is his Caribbean heritage. Well it would not make sense at all for Tom Hardy to incorporate this if his character was born in an Arab setting. The other inmates (the doctor and the
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All the prisoners seemed to have a Middle Eastern accent. If Bane was born and raised there, he should have sounded like them as well. However, he has an accent of his own. Not only that, but Tom Hardy said that one of the influences for Bane's voice was his CARIBBEAN heritage, and this would not
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Nolan tells one big lie about the origin of Bane. That lie is designed to hide the film's biggest reveal, and we do eventually learn the truth about Bane. It seems fitting that in the one flashback where Nolan tells the full truth about Bane's identity, we finally catch that single glimpse of Tom
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adds even more ambiguity to the thing. Specially, Bane's line (2:40) "You merely adopted dark... I was born in it" That suggested that he was born in the Pit. But then when they they the story about the child who was born in there, and that was actually the only child to be born in there. Too
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You used this source talking about the scene in which Bane was revealed as Talia's protector to state misdirection by the film in the sentence after the one talking about his birthplace, making it look as if the misdirection was related to the birthplace. Your quote doesn't support the sneaky
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Exactly how does it fail to meet notability other than you having a hard-on? Even after I found a credible source you still had to changed it. It doesn't even make the article any longer than it already is. You may feel its superfluous while others may find that piece of information about an
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Bane's place of birth is left ambiguous by time the story for The Dark Knight Rises ends. He was rumored to have been born in a Pit according to Alfred. It's definitively established that another character was born there, a character whose special qualities of being born in hell, forged from
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one tending to Bruce) should have sounded exactly the same as Bane, or vice versa; Bane should have had a more Arab/Middle Eastern sounding soundtrack. THIS is what makes it clear that Bane's origin was at a place completely separate from the Pit. Easyjusteasy knows what he's talking about.
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NOT BE BANE)). This is misdirection. There's other examples. There's a load of "nonsense" added in those edits numbered above that does not appear in those sources. It's gotten into fan fiction territory to definitely state what is not said by sources or the film which is ambiguous.
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The aim of page protection is to stop the endless back and forthing that was going on. You had multiple alternatives to going into a revert-revert-revert cycle but neither of you chose to engage in any form of useful discussion. I'm not going to agree on
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Talia had that since she was the child being talked about during the entire film. However, if Bane was indeed born there as well, then as a child he should have had those natural special abilities as well, since would have been "a child born in hell."
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implication of your edit. I'm amazed by the number of people who think that because Talia was born in the Pit, that must mean that Bane wasn't. There's really no RS that even implies this notion. And Osh33m, heritage does not mean "birthplace".
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and raised there and writing his origin off as "also born in the Pit" does not hold water. We need to agree on this because we can't keep going back and forth in reversions. I think the page needs to be left the way it is now.
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that dig into spoilers and analysis about the film's plot (most don't spoil) is important. Even the books I mentioned above are interested in misleading rather than giving a true, comprehensive look at the film's story.
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the pit. In one segment he calls the pit "home" where he "learned the truth about despair", but that is in reference to how he was trapped there for a prolonged period of time until the League of Shadows invades it.
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Each site ranking from empire to ranker uses thousands of votes or a consensus and they say bane belongs there. Is there a third party who could vote or rule on this and be definitive about other than you and me?
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or lock the page to attempt to get you to come to some from of agreement. If you cant come to an agreement between yourselves you should try and seek assistance/guidance from one of the available resources such as
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Now, on to the process here - if ytou wish we can wait/solicit a third party, but generally the first step would be to discuss it. I've said everything I have to say, so please share your thoughts.
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of writing fan fiction when at one point you used a source to imply something that wasn't said. I have edited the paragraph so that the reader is not being mislead about the nature of the reveal.
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Not according to film lore. A child "born in hell" was a quality described about Talia's apparent ability to escape, make the climb, and get out. Bruce had to work hard to escape the same way.
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different influences to come up with the character's voice. Again your argument doesn't hold water. But now we have to go through administrators now in order to edit this page, so thanks.
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is informal and I have no special powers or authority apart from being a fresh pair of eyes. Third opinions are not tiebreakers and should not be "counted" in determining whether or not
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The title of this page is absurd. It should be called "Bane outside comics" or something like that. As a section title, it made sense but as an stand-alone article it does not.
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But he received acclaim from critics and especially audiences. This isn’t steppenwolf or malekith I’ve shown through sources that bane can be right next to thanos in be regarded
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the table and won't be a jerk any more. Regardless, if you wish please feel free to open a sockpuppet investigation - I am not abusing multiple accounts and never will again.
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film, and you know this. Talia being born there and Bane being born there aren't mutually exclusive. You are using logical fallacies to try to trick people. And don't accuse
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Then perhaps keep the sources but with more neutral and less exaggerated wording such as "Hardy's interpretation of Bane received positive reviews, and has been included in
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Given the overall length and detail of the TDKR section, I feel details about the pit, such as it's age, are superfluous and fail to meet notability guidelines. ----
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So you just plain don't want to cooperate or compromise huh? Where are these magical invisible sources that put Bane right next to Thanos in the hall of the greats?
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Bane was not born in the Pit. I'll have to really dissect this to make you all understand that all we know about Bane's origin is that he was born in a prison.
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make sense if in the film, Bane was born in the Pit. With all this criteria in mind, it is safe to say Bane was not born in the Pit, but was born in a prison.
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make sense for him to do that if he was born in the Pit because NONE of the other inmates sounded like Bane. Easyjusteasy, you should revert the page asap.
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as a child". Then, reveal that the child who escaped was actually Talia al Ghul while leaving it open as to whether Bane himself was born in the prison.
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The Knightfall fan film section should have some sources, and possibly be rewritten. Does anyone know anything about this? May be a notability issue.
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had anyone to help him. And the idea of Bane being born in another prison, yet calling the Pit his home seems awfully sketchy.
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