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This river is located in internationally recognized Syrian land. Syrias official language is Arabic, not hebrew. The english name for this river is "Banias river". "Nahal Hermon" is a hebrew name that the occupying country uses. Why should wikipedia use the hebrew/occupiers name for this Syrian
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