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Hi David. Thank you for your review. I'll try to answer a few of your questions regarding the references. The article had numerous previous editors, hence the hodgepodge of reference formatting. Unfortunately, I do not have access to one of the subject's biographies, so I am unable to reference them.
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Sheene's commentary style was idiosyncratic, to say the least. Never letting the audience wonder for a minute exactly what he thought of a rider, bike, or team, his biases were completely transparent. He combined insight into the skills of riding, and the vagaries of the professional circuit, with a
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Some confusing lack/usage of wikilinking; for example Bultaco motorcycles are not wikilinked the first time it's referenced in the "First foray into racing" section, but is paragraphs later. Wikilinking technical terms isn't really a replacement for explaining them in-text so readers don't have to
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A similar issue goes to its comprehensibility to a general audience. I'm not a motorcycle racing aficionado, and I was regularly left lost as lots of stuff was just assumed knowledge, like what "smaller capacity classes" means (presumably racing categories with smaller engines, but it's never made
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Articulate and charismatic, Sheene was the first motorcycle racer to harness the power of mass media to transcend the sport to become the best-known face of British motorcycling during the 1970s, parlaying his fame to gain commercial endorsements from outside the sport including television
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Sheene was born off the Gray's Inn Road, Bloomsbury, London, the second child of parents Frank, who had been resident engineer at the Royal College of Surgeons, and was himself a former competitive rider who retired in 1956 and an experienced motorcycle mechanic. and
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I have taken your advice regarding the lead section. I have also attempted to reduce the number of run-on sentences as well as aiding the comprehensibility to a general audience. I tried to organize the post-racing career section. I look forward to your further
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The majority of this article is now satisfactory but the early years are not covered. It needs more on 1968 to 1971/2 for Bultaco, Yamtaco 125 to 350s and the 500 Suzuki and Hi-tac Seeleys. I have a basic idea but I am struggling for sources, presently
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this presumably means Sheene is the latest British champion in the top echelon of the sport, but it's a bit confusing versus language like "Sheene is the most recent" or similar. Also, the explanation for what premier class is isn't in the
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What makes Racingmemo.free.fr., visordown.com, iomtt.com, devittinsurance.com, cartersport.com, superbikeplanet.com, crash.net, classicracer.com, speedtv.com, motoamerica.com, royalautomobileclub.co.uk
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This is a really long sentence, and it's also got a bit of repetitious phrasing "to harness... to transcend.. to become..." that would probably be better off simpler and broken into multiple sentences.
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The post-racing career section feels a little haphazardly organized; for example his marriage is covered under television career, for some reason, and more personal details are in the death section.
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Is there a reason the biographies written about Sheene are barely used? It seems like those would be a preference for major sourcing versus newspapers and magazines of the times or random websites.
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obit), others are clearly done by hand versus templates and don't match. Some websites are italicized, some are not, some works are formatted differently such as MCN versus Motorcycle news, etc.
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We've got a 43-word sentence when most manuals on writing suggest south of 20, and a random sentence fragment added for the mother, who is an afterthought and doesn't get any introduction.
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If 500cc is important, it should at least be wikilinked, but it might be find just to leave out as well. (It needs to be introduced in the body, though.)
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It doesn’t make sense to say that Sheene began competitive motorcycle racing in 1968, winning his first races... then improving to second in 1969.
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Also according to the article, Barry Sheene died in 2003. The date probably should be 2001 but this should be checked by someone before editing :)
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brings up a passage regarding the deadly 350 race and the aftermath that I think runs a bit too much towards close paraphrasing.
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References are inconsistently formatted throughout; some refs are missing fields (for example, the author and date of the
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In later years, Sheene became involved in historic motorcycle racing, usually thrashing the awed amateurs behind him.
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first national sales manager for American Honda, then Suzuki, and founder of American Eagle Motorcycles (1967-1970).
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is a better article, but none of these 3 actually explains how spokes support the wheel pre-stressed w/compression.
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Probably redirect all these to a single-page history of this series. Main articles on each one later, if desired.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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The prose is pretty rough throughout. There's a lot of run-on sentences that are hard to parse.
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and related models such as the CR series. Is model code the clearest nomenclature to use?
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From the article: "Sheene competed in his last UK race at the Goodwood Revival in 2011"
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Info needed on Armstrong chassis builders (CCM-Armstrong & Rotax-Armstrong).
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link away to grok the basic gist of the article, but it's better than nothing.
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I've added the tone template due to some uneyclopedic passages, particulary:
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Sorry for the wait. Overall, a solid article. My feedback is as follows:
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Short description: British motorcycle racer and racing driver (1950-2003)
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after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add
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However, Sheene is still the last British champion in the premier class
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There's no mention in the article of the 2007 biographical film. See
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to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
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I don't feel I know enough about the subject to fix it myself.
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I agree. It wasn't Encyclopedic in tone. I adjusted the tone.
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with statement explaining not to be confused with 1999 YZF-R7
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of Portland, OR, motorcycle racer and designer of the
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