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772:. Populations from the Ta-Seti region came to people Itj-tawy and from this power centre, Amenemhat I's armies extended the Egyptian empire. Egyptologists who believe Amenemhat I may have waited until his twentieth year to make the move to his new city base their evidence on an inscription found on the foundation blocks of the pyramid's mortuary temple. It records Amenemhat's royal jubilee, and also that year one of a new king had elapsed, suggesting that the pyramid was started very late in the king's reign. King Amenemhat I reorganized the administration of the country, keeping the hereditary nomarchs who had supported him, while weakening the regional governors by appointing new officials at Asyut, Cusae and Elephantine. Another move, both to dilute the army's power and to raise personnel for coming conflicts, was his reintroduction of conscription. In order to protect Egypt and fortify captured territory in Nubia, he founded a fortress at Semna in the region of the second Nile Cataract, which would begin a string of future 12th Dynasty fortresses. Along with protecting his newly acquired territory, he also create a stranglehold over economic contacts with Upper Nubia and further south. 729:"Possible evidence for a ”j” sound for the Meroitic “d” is the word Medjay, the Egyptian term for an ethnic group from the desert region of Nubia whose members often served as police or servants in Egypt. In Demotic sources they are called ”Blhm” while in classical sources they are the Blemmyes, ancestors of the modern Beja. Scholars have speculated that these are the “Mdd” people who are cited in the Irike-Amanote and Harsiotef stelae. One might also wonder whether they could be ancestors of the Amag or Hamaj, who are cited in later documents from Funj history and by early Arab and European travellers. Their name could also reflect an association with the area referred to as Amod (probably the region now known as Qustul between Gebel Adda and Faras) in Meroitic in the ẖlllḫror inscriptions. The Meroitic word “mdes” in opening lines of the Kharamadoye stela may well refer to the king's dominion over this land or people. Browne in his Old Nubian dictionary cites the Meroitic word “mde” as possibly meaning "servant" under the Old Nubian entry for MEDJU." 164: 98: 1154:. (There were subsequent minor copyedits by other users, but no addition of new sources, or new information from these sources.) This user is banned in part for misuse of genetic research on Africa to support the user's POV. I have thus decided to remove this material. The research by Hisham Hassan should be counted as reliable for Knowledge (XXG) purposes. I'll try to reintegrate it to make it easier for others with better knowledge of genetics to follow the trail. 88: 53: 294: 276: 204: 216: 244: 22: 176: 810:. When requesting whitelisting, be sure to supply the link to be whitelisted and wrap the link in nowiki tags. The whitelisting process can take its time so once a request has been filled out, you may set the invisible parameter on the tag to true. Please be aware that the bot will replace removed tags, and will remove misplaced tags regularly. 860: 360: 1145:
Update: After a few more perplexing claims that seemed either to be misreadings of the articles cited or original research, I dug into the page's edit history to see who had added this material, with the hopes of contacting them for clarifications. It turns out that the entire substantive portion of
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leaders of their families, although it has enabled these documents demonstrate the link between language Blin and current Beja languages​​. If we go back to back, there seems to be a magical text, preserved in Egyptian papyrus roll back to the eleventh century BC, has been written in this language.
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I removed this block of text from the "Name" section of the article, as it has no source and, frankly, looks like the sort of speculative origin story, tying a particular people to an ancient and exalted background, that is familiar to anybody who's edited articles on ancient European history. It
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Flourished emirates baleen along the Nile Valley after the fall of Meroe during the fourth and fifth centuries AD. Some princes are known through what was left of the documents written in both irrigated and Greek. Existing remnants of language Blin few: a short text in Coptic, the names of the
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Belong Beja language, like Arabic, to the Afro-Asian language family distinctive richness silent letters in addition to masculine and feminine feature is found in many African languages​​. The linguistic research has helped to answer the question he frequented for decades: Are current Beja
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I'm reading the papers by Hassan that are cited in the section on genetics, & it seems to me that there are some errors on this page. However, this isn't my wheelhouse, & it's very possible I'm misunderstanding. Anyone care to review this with me?
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this map showing the distribution of Beja people within The region of Northeast Africa (Egypt+Sudan+Eriterea), Beja people mainly lives in Egypt where it's part of Northeast Africa , While Horn of Africa alone exclude Egypt. thanks for understanding
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I first read this article today hoping to discover some factual information about the history of the many Beja tombs "qubba" - found in long strings in the Eastern Desert. But there's no mention of their burial practices.
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that different alleles for lactase persistence have developed at least three times in East African populations, with persistence of 88% in the Beja pastoralist population in Sudan. Check
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Its from Ethnologue and it is working you just have to click on it if you are not subscribed to Ethnologue than you can't view it. But it says "Most also use Sudanese spoken Arabic"
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In this lecture, Dr. Claude gives us Rey, director of the French department Sudanese Antiquities Authority, the latest findings of historical research about the Beja people.
768:'s was of a peoples from Upper Egypt known as Ta-Seti. He built a great city state called "Amenemhat-itj-tawy" ("Amenemhat the Seizer of the Two Lands"), more simply called 1322: 334: 421: 411: 1025: 1021: 1007: 340: 802:. If you feel the link being caught by the blacklist is a false positive, or no longer needed on the blacklist, you may request the regex be removed or altered at the 456: 1327: 1317: 310: 661: 401: 154: 557:, who are by and large christian (which would make the Beja unlikely to adopt their language). I will change it, but feel free to rv it if I am wrong. 309:, nationalities, and other cultural identities on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join 1287: 633:
These two links are full of great information which could be used in the Beja people and language articles. Also on the Afroasiatic languages page.
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The new source you added isn't working. I haven't seen any source that mentions most of the Beja speak Arabic. Could you show them here.
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Amenemhat's Ta-Seti army and conscripts came to be known Ta-Itj-tawy. In modern languages this is pronounced Bigawy, Bedjawi or Bejawi.
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Beja people leave to historical legacy dates back to thousands of years, something that had been in doubt until the last years.
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The article states that a number speak tigrinya, but I've never heard this. I know that a significant number speak
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The Plight of the Beja People in Eastern Sudan By: Suliman Salih Dirar - Beja Congress email:
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when the Darod like the Ababda are for Bejas are just a subset of the Somali ethnic group.
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Also an interesting passage from a paper by Penelope Aubin in the Meroitic Newsletter
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as a "related ethnic group" really necessary? It would be like mentioning the
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descendants of Bedouin the avid Egyptians and Romans who were know Balblin?
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be true, but it's definitely the type of claim that needs strong sources.
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Resolve the disparity in importance rankings among different ethnic groups
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The term Bejawi comes from Ta-Itjawy "people of Itjawy".
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I think it is important to list the discovery regarding
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Incorrect information concerning Meroe and the Beja...
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During the first century AD, a Beja dynasty captured
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