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The 2nd paragraph of the MH begins by talking about "the new low", but that was only mentioned briefly once in the first paragraph. IDK, when I was reading it, I didn't get a good sense of flow. Two other issues with the opening sentence. It says "to its south" without a clear antecedent, and it also
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Wikilinked to the stub weather ship article. They're exactly what they claim to be...ships in specific locations that are out there for the sole purpose of taking weather observations at sea. They were active from the 1940s into the 1980s, before being replaced with weather buoys. To help support
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All the articles state about the system is that its central pressure was estimated from the surface analyses available. At work, when this system has been mentioned in passing, they mentioned a figure closer to 910 mb, but without a reliable pressure measurement near the center, it's impossible to
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IDK, I just figured that km should be the primary unit, since it affected Europe, and then mph would be in parenthesis. I'm not really familiar with extratropical storm articles, but I think the logic is the same as with tropical cyclones, that the public never uses knots, nor nmi. --♫
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Much better. Just quick question now - did the storm actually cause the snow? The article mentions snow only once, saying "The wind combined with the snowfall to the north led to blizzards across most of Scotland." It's not clarified whether the storm actually caused it. --♫
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It was not recorded at sea level. The station is at an altitude of 225 metres (738 ft) above sea level. Sea level pressure would be at 924 mbar. While extremely deep, not record breaking (there is a possibility that a sub-914 mbar was recorded out to sea, this is
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Most importantly, I guess, what meteorological conditions allowed the storm to attain such a record low pressure? You mention the low forming to its south, and that seems to be the only meteorological detail other than what the pressure was and where the low
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I tried to explain the second low's development better by rewording a couple of the lines. I was attempting to go in chronological order, but I can see how this is confusing to the reader. How do you suggest I proceed?
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Well, I'm very glad I didn't fail it! Thank you for your quick work. There are just a few small things I'd like to see clarified a bit more. Then I'll be glad to pass it. --♫
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It is just the location the storm was at during that time. I went ahead and provided a more generic location, since it was located far from any land location.
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It is still unofficial. As far as I know, no metrological agency has confirmed it has the lowest pressure on record. We will have to wait on it and see.
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Um, no. Earlier on in the article, the strength of the upper level jet and unusually strong SST gradient in its vicinity were mentioned as factors.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20221018181915/https://amrc.ssec.wisc.edu/data/view-data.php?action=view_text_file&product=surface/awstext/8930.txt
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You should probably clarify in the article that the pressure is estimated. The current wording makes it look like it was recorded. --♫
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It was an ocean storm, so knots made sense. Plus, all the references use knots. If you want me to convert the knots to mph, I can.
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Also, you say the buoys can't record pressures lower than 925, so how was the pressure of 914 recorded? The article never says that.
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It was output from the convert template. Did you want me to qualify the coding to specify abbreviations instead?
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Speaking of linking, you link Iceland the second time you mention it, and not the first. Consistency would be good
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I'm tempted to fail it, but I'll put it on hold instead, since my issues might well be easy to address. --♫
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Also, I noticed it here and elsewhere, but when you say "early morning", is that UTC, or local time? --♫
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Also, I'm not sure why the conversion template is not working properly, but 930 hPa is not 27.0 inHg.
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So for now, don't change the Braer Storm to the second most intense extratropical cyclone on record.
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2 PARTE SINOPSIS GENERAL A LAS: 09:00UTC DEPRESION 905HPA 70S 90W MOV S WKN EXP 73S 90W EL 18/0600
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Is there some reason "of January 1993" is necessary? I propose that this article be moved to just
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https://web.archive.org/web/20221017115552/https://www.smn.gob.ar/pronostico-antartico/maritimo
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Also, really minor, but could you split "Preparations and impact" into two paragraph? ;) --♫
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Per newly-found reference, added more about the weather that day in Great Britain.
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since it's not like there are other storms with the same name. Courtesy ping:
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Yea, I'd suggest the same if you had "kilometre" written out every time. --♫
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2. Lowest measured station pressure was 888.0hPa which converts to 914.2hPa
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Was the storm named after the oil tanker? If so, is there a reference?--
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OK, so we have the wind gusts, but what were the actual wind speeds?
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Added a line about its cause of the oil spill's rapid dispersion.
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Added another significant figure, so the values look better now.
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The addition of info about the NAO should address this concern.
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1. Servicio Meteorológico Nacional (Argentina) estimated 905hPa
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I would assume so, but i dont know that there's a source for it.
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this article, I'm somewhat expanding the weather ship article.
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Maybe link to something when you say "hurricane-force winds"
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says "had dropped"? There is no context to use such wording
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Is there a reason you spell out "millibar" every time?
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As there was no objection, I have moved the article.
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