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begin any changes before I finish the review. Please note that I know a LOT of work has gone into the history section of this article and appreciate that and understand why it has been nominated. As indicated above, however, I'm thinking there's some amount of content development left to do to satisfy GA criteria. Best wishes,
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Protection was denied, likely correctly. Unfortunately, we're not allowed to call disruptive editing vandalism. It's my feeling that the Time magazine piece, along with the other sources, are plenty to state it was a segregation academy. The fact that the administration was aware it was going to be a
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The issue is the accuracy of "was founded in 1973 as a segregation academy". Perhaps you could think of another way to express the point. I've done some of the reading now, and I can see this is too complex for me to be able to suggest anything quickly, so I'm going to leave you to it. Thank you for
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The term "segregation academy" in the South has come to mean an institution which is one of "a system of private schools operated on a racially segregated basis as an alternative available to white students seeking to avoid desegregated public schools"... Some private white schools are well-equipped
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Just a note that I'm only sporadically available at the moment so I might not finish this review until early next week. However, since I have some "obvious" fixes even before I do a detailed reading, I'll go ahead and claim this and start. I would encourage the nom, and other interested editors, to
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This whole article reads like a brochure to woo prospective students. It has been changed since the last time I read it, when it reflected Briarcrest's actual history as one of the church-sponsored private schools founded for white students to attend after a Memphis court mandated school busing to
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is well documented. It has been discussed elsewhere that the lede does not have to be fully referenced if the topic is covered and referenced elsewhere in the article. If the editor didn't like the paragraph, it should have been tagged, not deleted. The next time this happens in this article,
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There seems to be some doubt about it. For example, Joseph Crespino writes that it was founded with an open admissions policy. But no black students went there. The local NAACP called it a "racist place" that no black student would go to regardless of its admissions policy. Then he quotes an
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I would like to have some information in the article about when the school become 'integrated' since it started as a segregation academy. Did it only become 'integrated' by force or what? Is there any information as to how integrated it actually
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Is that book a disinterested source strong enough to support the point as a statement of fact? It seems that they are arguing that it was functionally equivalent to a segregation academy. But the lead says that it was actually founded as
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Is there a reason the Blind Side movie but not book is addressed in the 2000s? Given current sourcing and from what I remember when I read it, seems like it would have information about the school that could be sourced for that time
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Speaking of which I know from the issues with the page that there were/are two campuses. This is alluded to in the 2000s section but this is never explicitly spelled out. This is part of the sixth bullet point about overall
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I do not think that there is a consensus to remove the racial controversies from the lead. The racial controversies have recieved great weight in multiple reliable sources over several decades. —
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In 2 different places there's an Uncle Tom quote from Allen. From what I've seen in sources there's more variety to choose from. Could one of these be modified so it's not so repetitive?
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and boast an excellent staff. For example, the Briarcrest Baptist School System, Inc., in Memphis, Tennessee, offers all the standard academic subjects in addition to religious training.
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Yes, there was just one sentence about the reason for its establishment, and that sentence had been removed at some point. I restored it. I also moved the promotional content out of the
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The time source (backed by the school's website) suggests the High School opened in 1974 (1975 was its second school year). I'm presuming that this is the source for that sentence
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Could the citation for the few students (if any) being black be made clear? Given that the next sentence has two sources it's not as clear which info comes from which sources.
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None of its 3,800 students were black; indeed, only two black students had ever enrolled in Briarcrest's regular classes, and just 46 more in its summer programs
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is actually about the school nearly closing. Good source too - info could be part of the answer for how did it go from nearly bankrupt to successful.
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My initial review is done. I have a few sources I'm working on obtaining to do a check but there's a lot there for you to dive into. Best wishes,
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Afterward, Allen said he was glad the tax code could not be "used as a weapon" by those who disagreed with the school's "policies or politics."
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Almost all sources that discuss this school in depth give great weight to the racial controversies associated with its history, so I feel that
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The infobox photo should have ideally have a caption though it's obvious what it is. More strictly, all the photos should really have an ALT.
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Doesn't look like there's been any work on this article and absent any updates will close this review in the next couple of days. Best,
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education task force coordinator, commenting in 1973: "These days, Christian schools and segregation academies are almost synonymous." (
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and related subjects in the Knowledge. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, and even
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I reverted edit 867733195. The IP editor claimed it was "speculative. As described above, the assertion that the school was a
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are strong sources supporting the conclusion that this school is a segregation academy. In particular, the central thesis of
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Given the ambiguity, should it not be removed from the lead and discussed lower down where you can present the arguments?
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I appreciate the detailed feedback. I have been busy IRL and don't have the time to make change before the deadline. —
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Not strictly required for GA (at least not by me) but it would be nice if sources 13, 20, 21, 27 could be fixed/expanded
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Sourcing, from what I'm seeing, doesn't seem clear that the two students referred to here were not current students:
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de facto seg academy is enough to say it was founded as such, IMO. Obviously, that is a bit more contentious. And,
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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https://web.archive.org/20110313081846/http://tarheelblue.cstv.com:80/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/mcdonald_leslie00.html
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https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/for-channel-2-anchor-sophia-choi-reporting-on-bullying-is-personal/875633874/
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Does the school have any academic achievements worth noting? In general several of the sections suggested at
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How did it go from nearly bankrupt to successful enough to build a 43 million dollar building?
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What is the whole passage from Kravitz & Mutte? There are dots at a crucial point.
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Where in Allen's testimony does it break out how the 3800 students were distributed?
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Most of the first paragraph of Values, programs are not satisfied by the source
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The LEAD should be a summary of the whole article. It will need expansion. See
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Is there a secondary source that be used to cite the info from Allen v Wright
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Not all the sources for that section establish their connection to Briarcrest
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I don't know if the Freeze paragraph is necessary. Feels too much like NEWS.
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Multiple sources will likely be needed for the first paragraph of Sports
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after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add
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is that this school is a segregation academy. That being said, I think
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http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/mcdonald_leslie00.html
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and into the body, and trimmed/reworded it. What do you think now? --
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The schools that fear built: segregationist academies in the South
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to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
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Would suggest changing Notable People to Alumni & Faculty.
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When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the
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obliges us to reference such controversies in the lead. —
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In 1979 HS tuition was up to 1100 according to the source
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I have just added archive links to one external link on
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at least some of which seem relevant here are missing.
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at the time (March 7, 2019). There are suggestions on
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Accreditation and affiliations section has no source
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