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The list has been in the article for several years, and I see no reason it should not be retained. Your previous comments didn't even mention the list as such, so I'm not sure how you think I was not assuming good faith - I didn't call it vandalism, and didn't think it was, just not a good idea. -
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The way this article is currently structured, it gives the impression that the term "British West Indies" refers to the
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The list is a repitition of what appears in the prose (post my edits: read them before bandying about claims of unproductivity - which is not assuming good faith, btw). Replacing lists with prose is what all good articles should do. There is absolutely no need for a list here.
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The people in the Turks and Caicos islands, made that name up and have been throwing that name around. Try to google "Royal West Indies" and "Turks and Caicos" you can still get a lot of hits.
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