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at the time, and the veritable flood of food that arrived with the influx of American troops was a much appreciated boost to the Korean diet. Korean history in the 20th century is a fascinating and complex subject that requires good understanding of Pan-Asian political history and the impact of U.S. involvement in the region.
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Johnson was the U.S. president responsible for escalating the Vietnam war into an international "Police Action". U.S. military bases in Korea were heavily utilized for the staging of U.S. troops, and Korean military were mobilized to fight in Vietnam. The Korean economy was still in a very bad state
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The Busan variant led to both budae-jjigae and dwaeji-gukbap in parallel, if I deleted "also" I read that as possibly implying it only led to dwaeji-gukbap, likely as a stepping stone to budae jjigae (as earlier in the para i imply dwaeji is a predecessor to budae). "Also" concisely eliminates that
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To make budae-jjigae, cut a variety of ham and sausages into large pieces, then add canned beans, sour kimchi, marinated pork, red pepper, zucchini, enoki mushroom, and green onion, then stir-fry the pork in a pan with sesame oil. Add beef bone broth or chicken broth and boil, and when the pork is
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Hi, I expanded the article a good chunk, but I think there's potential for more work. I'm currently in the US but I suspect there's Korean language books that have more info on the dish. I think I've exhausted most of what Google had to offer in English and Korean. I've also gone through lots of
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Hmm... I mean we know it exists, there just isn't a detailed description of it. It's mentioned in virtually every article about Budae-jjigae, along with Johnson-tang. I'll remove it anyway, but people who are familiar with budae-jjigae in Korea will notice it's missing.
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I'd argue no need to gloss; instant ramen is eaten or known of very widely (especially by people who have access to the internet and wikipedia). I think cultures that are unfamiliar with instant ramen would need many western food names glossed too
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not sure all these items are really needed here. Why "Fusion cuisine"? Why "Food and drink prohibitions"? Why "han (cultural)"? As for the Economy and List of US Army installations... surely those should either be linked in the main text or
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noodles are not added". They haven't been mentioned until now, so we didn't know they were added in any case. Maybe mention and wikilink them in "Description"? Perhaps also gloss them as "wheat noodles", not just
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It's a bit rare in Korea too 😅 I'm a bit on the fence on this one; it's the official name of the street and I don't have any quick ideas on how to explain it to the reader concisely otherwise.
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The discussion of Uijeongbu city's dish and street overlaps with the discussion in "Recent history". Could we merge the two instances? I'd suggest we do that here in "Cultural legacy".
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Hmm.. I pruned a bunch of the "also"s but the ones I've left I've hesitated on. I imply "in addition to" in these uses, which is needed for the ideas I'm expressing. E.g.
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Pruned; Han I think is somewhat relevant because the emotions described in the article are all a part of Han. The after effects of the events of the 20th century.
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I'm not convinced the Pro-democracy protests image is justified here, as it's at best tangential to the article, and not directly mentioned in the text.
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Perhaps explain "instant noodle powder" for the uninitiated reader: is this as plain as it sounds, like rice flour, or is it a spicy and salty additive?
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I'll have a go at this one, an interesting article and a curious dish. Oddly reminiscent of the hybrid character of England's unofficial national dish,
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It features Neoguri instant ramen noodles, pork stock, kimchi, rice cakes, Spam, and Kirkland Signature-brand hot dogs, mozzarella, and American cheese.
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I swear part of this article reads like it was directly copied from someone's travel blog or something. It is not academic in style and needs a rework.
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No, there are any number of readers who've never geard if the stuff, that's what Knowledge is for. If you think everyone knows, why are you writing?
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You use "Last, First" for authors, which is great ... but "Service, Korean Culture and Information" is wrong, it's not Mr K.C.I. Service, is it...
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after the link to keep me from modifying it, if I keep adding bad data, but formatting bugs should be reported instead. Alternatively, you can add
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academic articles in both English and Korean and lots of books in English. Books in Korean are the only thing that I didn't have access to.
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Well, this is an interesting and well-cited article, and there's really very little wrong with it. I hope to see it at GA very soon.
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Is "Jeong Jung-yun" the same guy as "Jeon Jung-yun" already introduced and redlinked, and then referred to simply as "Jeong"?
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sociolinguist, but maybe too technical term for what it's worth, and his work seems to squarely lean towards sociology
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Article falls short of 5x expansion, and is thus ineligible. Note in addition that earwig shows likely copyvio (48.2%)
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What is the point of Note 1? The variations are so minor I'd have thought we could just forget the differences really.
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In restaurants, the dish comes with a set of base ingredients and more ingredients can be added for additional charge
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Same with the other ramen gloss, I'd argue we can assume almost all readers on the article will know what it is
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to keep me off the page altogether, but should be used as a last resort. I made the following changes:
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Maybe gloss gochujang, mandu, minari as "red chili paste", "dumplings", "water celery", or similar.
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The Busan variant of the dish also led to the development of dwaeji-gukbap, a pork-based rice dish.
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Who is Yang Minho? Maybe gloss as "the scholar Yang Minho" or "the war historian" or some such.
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The other images are appropriate for the article, and seem to be properly licensed on Commons.
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I'm struggling to find even unreliable sources that describe it, may not find an answer
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cooked, add minced kimchi, corn, sausage, spam, frankfurters, zucchini, and tofu.
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Please delete the word "also" wherever it occurs. It doesn't do anything useful.
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Lyndon B. Johnson soup. what mean? Lyndon B. Johnson is very famous in korea?
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I tried several spot-checks on the citations, and they were all appropriate.
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Not a 5x expansion and also not eligible due to a high copyvio score.
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Nothing should exist only in the lead, as it's only a summary.
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I put it in lead, lmk if you think it's better in body instead
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Jjigae (찌개) has a thicker consistency than guk (soup)
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