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I do not want to edit anything in the article, and I am sure there may be very many mentions of them in the media. I wanted to give a little info and a minor link if any of you think it has merit to the article. There is a play called "Bloodless: The Trial of Burke and Hare". It is fantastic, sticks
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It says that "Burke and Hare argued over the boy, but then Burke broke his back and sold both bodies for ÂŁ8 each." What does this mean? Does it mean that one person conceded the argument or that his back was literally broken? If the latter, was it accidentally or a result of a physical fight between
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Seems a bit daft to me that the upcoming film based on Burke and Hare keeps being removed from the media portrayals section. Oft quoted if that its a future release... So? It's actually happening. Filming has wrapped, Knowledge (XXG) even has an article on the film itself. Knowledge (XXG) shouldn't
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Margaret Laird (Hare) became one of Burke and Hare's victims, but at the bottom, it suggests that Margaret Hare 'escaped lynching' and went back to Ireland. Obviously, only one of these can be true. I have no idea which one it is, but someone should find out
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I don't suppose anybody has any information on a pub frequented/lived in by Burke & Hare in
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Just to say that despite reading more than one book on Burke and Hare, the title of this article: 'West Port murders' means nothing to me. Wouldn't 'Burke and Hare' be a better title, and one that people would recognise?.
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