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charge — including the recent report that, since October, Israel has facilitated the entry of more than 870 metric tons of food and other humanitarian aid to Gaza’s two million inhabitants. Meanwhile, Hamas attacks or plunders food shipments, and it has denied Gazan civilians access to vast storehouses of food and medicines that it secreted in its tunnels before Oct. 7...Israel has, in fact, done more than any other military has ever done to minimize civilian casualties during large-scale urban warfare, even sacrificing the lives of many of its own soldiers in the process. For example, Israeli forces drop warning leaflets, distribute maps, and place automated phone calls to civilians in Gaza to identify areas in which combat is planned, in order to enable civilians to evacuate in advance...Yet Hamas intentionally impedes efforts of Palestinian civilians to flee to safer areas, and then it uses the military plans provided by Israel to attack its troops, employing Palestinian civilians and hostages seized in Israel as human shields — undeniably a war crime..the deaths of thousands of people during a war is not alone indicative of genocidal intent...Israel too is waging a defensive war against ongoing aggression, war crimes and genocide, but it is taking far greater steps to protect civilian lives than Allied forces did
134: 154: 143: 163: 2108:- Procedurally, two weeks after the last Move Review closed, with no new sources brought to the discussion, and no new arguments, is too soon to have another RM. It's a ridiculous waste of time to have a whole second RM simply because somebody on the internet disagrees with the first one. (Disclosure: I tried removing this RM when it was first posted and reported InterpidContributor to AE for restoring it twice.) We're going to end up having the same people make the same votes for the same reasons as last time. Substantively, I oppose this for the same reasons as last time. 1186:- even if we completely ignore that there was an established consensus for this title and that consensus was reviewed and upheld at a review, the proposed title is terrible. Just independent of any process concern, "Accusations of Gazan genocide in the Israel–Hamas war" is a terrible title. It is overly long and confusing, is it genocide against Gazans or by Gazans? It is limited in scope, ignoring the sources that say this process started well before last year. It fails basically every criteria for article titles. And that’s ignoring the process here. 174: 3348:- there are two questions here, one procedural (whether it's too early for another RM) and one substantive (which title is most appropriate). It might be too late now, but it would have been cleaner if procedural objections had been made in a separate section. If this ends up not being closed for procedural reasons, then it goes to substance, where the closer may have a hard time discerning whether each procedural oppose is also a substantive oppose, and if so, how much weight to assign such !votes which don't get into substantive arguments. — 766:, et al: "Despite all the concern for the fate of the Palestinian population, however, the standards of judgement slip completely when genocidal intentions are attributed to Israel's actions." These distortions fuel misinformation. For example, misinterpretation of the ICJ and ICC rulings which did not find a "plausible" genocide. They will have to show Israeli intent. While the death of any innocent person is a tragedy, the killing of 2% of the Gazan population during a tough urban war isn't equivalent to such historical events like the 442:, as examples of articles titled "genocide" without a consensus/a legal ruling. However, these articles are about terms that are used to characterize systemic oppression and don't refer to a single historical event, like the Holocaust. We should be honest that "Gaza genocide" as a title evokes a historical event, not a characterization of an event. In any case, I think the titling of such an important article as "Gaza genocide" should be based on reasoning rather than on a precedent by two articles with relatively low readership. 1301:- At some point, obvious truths need to be recognized for what they are. There are prominent figures who continue to deny the Holocaust and the Armenian genocide, but their positions are rightly ignored by Knowledge for the same reason that the positions of flat-earthers and climate change deniers, some quite prominent, are ignored here. Because the truth is obvious, and no amount of argument is going to change that. At some point, you have to stop wasting time entertaining those who are willfully ignorant of reality. 3042:. The UN framework is considered generally lacking and not fit for determining what is or is not genocide among genocide scholars (even among the few genocide scholars who are currently choosing to use the framework to argue that Gaza is not a genocide). While we should include their opinions in the article, the UN framework is not the metric we use, we use what reliable sources use, so we privilege academic literature first-and-foremost, balanced with the other published opinions of relevant specialists and experts. 427:
that a lof of these sources, on both sides of the argument, are not actually specialized in the topic of genocide. If we really want to know if there's an academic/expert consensus, a useful exercise could be to improve the table and prioritize genocide/Holocaust scholars and international law experts, as well as separate them based on their stance and their level of confidence in said stance. While I would be happy to be proven wrong, I doubt such an exercise would show a consensus yet.
4950:. My conjecture is that this Russian request about a case with a very similar name and some sloppy journalism led to a conclusion that South Africa sought an extension. This example also shows that requests and rulings on them are public and published even when it is the president of the court rather than the full court which makes the decision. If no such ruling regarding South Africa appears on the ICJ web site soon, we can reasonably conclude that there was no request. 183: 1323:, I am forced to consider any new vote an attempt, perhaps unintentional, to manufacture a weak or biased enough turnout to force a change, and then argue for retention at the new title based on the new precedent. I am also very unswayed by the notion we may offend people or cause a lack of trust. Knowledge has gone against a dozen governments before, I scarcely think we should back down because this one wields scarier accusations of "isms" than the previous lot. 335: 31: 946:
leading multiple international observers to report that Israel had failed to meet the requirements of the ICJ's ruling, further leading South Africa to request additional measures, and for various reliable sources to report on deaths due to starvation within Gaza. This is just one exemplary aspect show the stark difference in conditions in just 4–5 months, let alone the further 6 months since the ICJ rulings. --
1732:, but they are not genocide. But even the war crimes are debatable because the Israeli forces did care to move civilians out of the areas of most intense operations and created some presumably safe zones in Gaza. Yes, a couple of Israeli officials (I would call them far-right idiots) did say on several occasions "let's kill them all". Nevertheless, this is not at all an official policy of the Jewish state, 97: 2422:
was made with basically no majority, it now takes a supermajority to say the close was bad since the 50% that liked the move can simply claim "the move was good" and secure a "no consensus". I agree with the concerns that this makes Knowledge look very biased and overall hurts the credibility of Knowledge via the bad look. I didn't participate in any of the previous topic discussions.
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title "Accusations of Gaza genocide in the Israel-Hamas war" is more appropriate. The use of "accusations" clarifies that the term genocide is a subject of debate and (extreme) controversy, not a settled fact, while maintaining neutrality. The suggested title makes it clear that these are accusations, not a definitive statement in Knowledge's voice.
2512:. Almost nothing has been said in this discussion that wasn't said in the last two. If the consensus (or lack thereof) ends up any different, it'd be because everyone is exhausted and may not argue as effectively as they did before. We should propose a moratorium after this to avoid yet another rehash and save everyone's time and energy. 2062:
the Palestinian refugees to enter, even when they want to go, and do not facilitate their immigration and transportation (I assume that the Israel would be only happy to help them out?). I am not trying to make any moral judgements, but simply thinking about the historical precedents of resolving such conflicts, only the recent
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current POV name. If editors are arguing against one or more of these alternative names (rather than just expressing a slight preference for one but acceptability of them all), it would be prudent to be extremely clear in your reasoning to avoid your opinion being seen as a !vote for the current title. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez |
4852:. I can only see the headline "No delay in Israel ICJ case, says SA after Israeli 'not enough evidence' report" and one sentence "South Africa says it will file evidence of genocide in Gaza in October as scheduled, despite claims out of Israel it is seeking a delay.", but that seems clear enough. Note that this is a 2244:, which clearly hasn't happened. There's no need to quantify how many genocide scholars subscribe to each view - the fact that there's a (non-fringe) controversy means that it's a POV name. We should take a cue from the mainstream media here, since they tend to have similar asperations of neutrality. Literally 1573:. The current title claims that there actually is a genocide, namely that people are being killed intentionally because of their ancestry or other aspects correlated with ancestry (e.g skin color, culture). This is not the case. The target title makes zero claim on any actual genocide, only accusations of it. 4194:, I can't find much in Google either. Erdoğan is well-known for being an international leader who has harshly protested against the Israeli actions in Gaza; he said nothing about any of this when he met some months ago with Romanian PM Marcel Ciolacu, whose cabinet was supposedly complicit in genocide 3540:
is fine, I have a slight preference for name 2 for consistency as XDanielx points out. I will caution those commenting on this topic however that the last RM was derailed by the splitting of editors between these alternative names, and that is the reason the closer claimed to find a consensus for the
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per the previous discussion. As for "The title doesn't match the article", we should bring the article in line with the emerging consensus and the reality of the situation. Also it seems there is no title you can pick that won't be seen as POV. Take "Gaza genocide accusations" for example. This would
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I opposed the move to Gaza Genocide from the very beginning because I think it does not reflect the uncertainty and ongoing investigation by experts in various fields regarding whether the events in Gaza truly constitute genocide. In the context of the current discussion, I believe that the suggested
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aid agencies can simply request for more aid to be allowed in. This is a perfect point to show the outdatedness of these bullet points, as has been shown from the ICJ's ruling in January, the IDF controlling the blockade (alongside a small section of civilians), restricted aid into Gaza even further,
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Circles are not square, the moon is not made of strawberry jam, and nations bringing cases to the ICJ don't admit they can't find enough evidence. Yet it's amazing how many "news" sites have uncritically repeated Kan's claim. Searching again today, I found no independent confirmation, but I did find
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Although it is not impossible that the inability to find evidence could be the reason for South Africa to request a deadline extension, it is totally impossible that South Africa would cite that as the reason. We are not required to believe in fairies. I am not even convinced yet that such a request
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Sorry, I can't find a permalink to a KAN report itself right now. It may have been part of a radio or TV report that hasn't been transcribed or a live article that isn't categorized under the same place as their other news pieces about the ICJ stuff. I found a 3rd source from Arutz Sheva but I don't
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I agree it should be removed if proper sourcing can't be found. Proper sourcing should be scholars saying "Romania," "complicit," "Gaza genocide." (I did a quick Google Scholar search and was unable to find anything.) Simply saying Romania supplies arms to Israel shouldn't be enough for Knowledge to
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I have just seen that this section was first added by an editor who was known in the Romanian topic area for his sloppy edits. He was indefinitely blocked last month. I really don't see much weight for keeping this section in the article. I really find it ashaming that this section has been kept for
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The current title is a clear POV title. The previous close illustrates one of the flaws of our close review process. We have what can very reasonably be seen as a bad close (clear consensus for some move but no obvious consensus between the choices with a near 50/50 split). However, once the move
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relitigation of the last RM. Let's put a moratorium on it and discuss it in 1-2 years when the dust settles. Incidentally, the support arguments often rest on a misconception of the concept of genocide—for example one supporter arguing that Gazans are not "being killed intentionally because of their
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Bruce J. Einhorn, Kathleen N. Coleman, Clarice R. Feldman, Joel K. Greenberg, Jeffrey N. Mausner, and Philip L. Sunshine — worked as U.S. federal prosecutors of perpetrators of Nazi genocide ...we have seen no evidence of Israeli commission of genocide, and there is much evidence that disproves that
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I don't know why editors keep on insisting on a procedural close when there are more than enough editors here supporting the motion. Shutting down discussion is a hallmark of POV pushing or stonewalling, and neither of those are legitimate means for conducting a a discussion according to Knowledge's
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section only features claims from three pro-Palestine groups that Romania is somehow involved. Only the reasoning of one of the three is explained and it is uniquely that Romanian weapon sales to Israel have continued after the war started. I am not an expert by any means but I seriously doubt this
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This is getting absurd at this point. The topic was closed just recently after having gone through several rounds already, and it was decided convincingly. No new arguments have been presented to restart it, nothing has changed in terms of the underlying facts. This is an abuse of the system and we
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Yes, it does appear that nowhere in Gaza is safe. As an outsider to this conflict, I would assume that all civilians should simply be allowed to evacuate from the war zone (as would be in any other war), which can be only to Egypt or other countries. But apparently that other countries do not allow
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870,000 tons does bring a more reasonable number of 1.3 kg/(person*day). Indeed not everyone needs aid, so perhaps the amount per person in need is closer to double that. Raw mass isn't super useful however, since much of this could for example be water or cement. But this would enter the territory
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That isn't the only aid though, as other countries and NGOs have provided aid as well, not to mention charitable donations and aid provided by the private sector. Also, not literally every person needs the aid, though it may be more than half and as much as 80%. There's some statistical information
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director of the genocide studies program at Yale University, says that Israel has only explicitly said they want to exterminate Hamas, and has not directly stated intent to “destroy a religious, ethnic or racial group.” Ben Kiernan, the director of the Cambodian Genocide Program at Yale University,
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Because this isn’t some game where if you try try again and just get the numbers to turn out then you win. We had a discussion that resulted in consensus. That discussion was reviewed and the finding of consensus endorsed. If there had been no consensus then fine discussion further makes sense. But
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The title I'm suggesting, "Accusations of Gazan genocide in the Israel-Hamas war", is the one I think is best. The "in the Israel–Hamas war" goes along with my call for unambiguity, as there have been multiple other accusations of a Gazan genocide in the past. However, I think it would be pertinent
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I think many of you need to reconsider what are you writing over here. This is just biased propaganda at this point. Pointing fingers at random countries online is a ridiculous thing to do. I think the section should be removed. Or, if there's actual academic and expert debate on this, the section
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the data is how respondents felt about selected quotes, taken from the context of their articles that Charny presented to them. How the respondents felt had they been presented the papers the small quotes were taken from could be very different, and must be considered when assessing Charny's paper
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I would point out the Vox article is almost ten years old, and in that time there has been an explicit move in the Knesset to the right, with Bibi agree to work with far-right parties who have explicit expulsionary and irredentist ideologies. This fact has been brought up multiple times in popular
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determine whether Israel’s government is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza. I think the charge is invalid; there is no systematic effort to exterminate Gaza’s population. (If there were, given the vast disparity in power, Israel would surely have killed many more than 23,000 people,
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useful to understand how the distortion of terminology serves to inflame and imply that a war or policy of extermination is the official policy of Israel when it isn't. This article is a good overview of the legal basics of Hamas' war crimes and why the war is one of self-defense and an attempt to
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People, especially people who don't edit the articles in question, starting snap-RMs (and RFCs) with no "before" discussion, and doing this multiple times in rapid succession, is a huge problem in this topic area. It's very disruptive, it makes talk pages almost unusable and causes widespread burn
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that has been compiled on the talk page. It's huge, I read all of it, and I have to say I didn't come out of it with any impression of a consensus. Opinions range widely, from "It is one" to "It could be one" to "It isn't one", and no position is clearly dominant. One thing to take into account is
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committing a genocide. I mention this not because my non-expert opinion should have any sort of weight in this debate, but as an assurance to you that this RM is being done in good faith. After reading the previous discussion, as well as the whole scholarly/expert opinion table on the talk page, I
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Having read the article, it appears that the claim there isn't enough evidence is the assessment by article authors deducing this must be the reason due to South Africa requesting an extension on the evidence deadline. The article does not say the South Africa team stated they did not have enough
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from this article because you want this article (the primary article in summary style, which is appropriate, obviously) because it would not fit your POV to contain more information about the veracity of the claims here.The title has not been dealt with and still violates NPOV. After the upcoming
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Until there is an academic/expert consensus on the genocide, this article is about a debate and we don't lose anything by titling it as such, except a bit of concision. Neutrality should be our priority when it comes to a crucial article like this one. As a reminder, readers won't read an article
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A genocide need not reach the level of the Holocaust to be a genocide, and pointing to the arguments of someone a believes a certain threshold of number dead be met to constitute genocide, is not just at odds with any of the frameworks employed by genocide scholars, but is also counter to the UN
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I know. They are also not for people to waste volunteer time by engaging them in a death spiral of RM requests until the 'correct' outcome is obtained. That would quite a foolish thing to do, the kind of foolishness I see a lot in the PIA topic area. It is so easy to have patience in this life.
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that this is a genocide, even if there is consensus that there have been significant civilian casualties. Those claiming there is some academic consensus have repeatedly cherrypicked sources to support their view. This entire topic has been the subject of POV pushing and it damages Knowledge's
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Ah, that article by Charny, where Charny considers any comparative analysis in genocide studies between any event and the Holocaust to be at least Holocaust minimisation if not denial. Oh, except for when Charny does the comparative analysis. And may we not forget Charny has had it out for the
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for not bringing anything new to the table and only relitigating the previous, well-attended and confirmed move, but with an even worse and more convoluted title alternative than the original + with no substance or merit to the RM. A lack of a moratorium is not an invitation to raise fresh RMs
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When I wrote that this title could erode confidence in the neutrality of Knowledge, I was referring to this point. Someone who clicks on "Gaza genocide" will immediately be met with multiple clear contradictions, and a general appearance of dishonesty. First, the short description refers to an
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A lot of the argumentation in favor of the "Gaza genocide" title centers around the fact that, while the mainstream opinion and media may be split on the genocide accusation, a wide majority of scholars and experts consider the massacre a genocide. Before anyone contributes to this discussion,
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Please do not remove a RM just because you don't agree on the timing. We can use this post to discuss whatever needs to be discussed for a new RM discussion and close. You could well have replied in the move request section above instead of deleting it and creating this new discussion.
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I already know well this topic area is eager to emotional and exaggerated claims. But I was actually baffled to see the claim in the infobox that Romania is allegedly complicit in a genocide in the Gaza Strip. Is there any academic consensus or discussion regarding this? Currently this
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While I happen to agree with you that the current name is in need of improvement and I do like your suggestions, unless you can find something significant that changed since the endorsed RM closure a weeks ago, I don't how this isn't just a waste of everyone's time. I would recommend a
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We don't just open an RM for no obvious reason, out of the blue, just after a recent RM that also went through MR and was endorsed, without a prior discussion. Specifically, one should elaborate on what has changed since the previous discussion, that would warrant opening a new RM?
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that Israel is not intentionally killing civilians and shows restraint. I recognize these are unpopular opinions. While I note that the previous close addressed the potential counterfactual aspect of the title, I believe editors should nonetheless find a consensus to rename it.
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where the article is by an IDF colonel who's repertoire of research is all in support of Israel's military actions. Firstly, I would comment that a retaliatory war does not preclude then possibility of genocide in the UN convention. Secondly, I would highlight how this list of
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If we look at specifically genocide scholars, there is a clear majority of those who have expressed their opinion, or provided their analysis that this is a genocide. It is also (so far) only genocide scholars who have published their analysis in peer-reviewed academic
2036:"Safe zones" have been a tool of genocide before... it does not prove anything about the supposedly benign intentions of the Israeli state—and they are specifically argued to be tools of ethnic cleansing and genocide by multiple sources that have been cited here. Also 269:
Thank you for your effort. I support updating the infobox, and I have no objections agains these images except for the assurances, if at all possible, that the childrens' families don't object to these photographs being posted on Knowledge. Copyright is one thing, and
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Well, you'd think from some of the discussions that the ICJ is not nuanced and is unequivocal, but as that article shows, the case is ongoing and South Africa is asking for a delay, possibly due to being unable to prove their allegations to the legal standard needed.
853:" (published by Cambridge University Press). Then specifically to Gaza currently, we have the following academic articles which discuss the argument of a "defensive war" as justification why this does not constitute genocide, and why such an argument doesn't work: 4643:
I'm sorry, but this absolutely has to do with this article. If claims of genocide cannot be substantiated by evidence, this article needs to be evaluated (not just the title but its content). Trying to shoehorn discussion into a separate article is an example of
1728:. This is complicated. There is a war, and a lot of civilians are always killed in every war. Actually, the ratio of civilian:militant killed during this war is pretty low (1:1 according to Israeli sources). It was much higher in wars by US. Then, there could be 592:
out. It's caused a giant mess at the main war page, and we need to figure out a way to not let this disruption continue. I tried to address this here and at AE (unsuccessfully), and when the AE closes I'm planning to bring it up at AN for a community discussion.
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That's a tabloid press opinion piece by a prosecutor bigging up other prosecutors and repeating tired Israeli talking points, not a serious anything, and certainly no answer to the peer-reviewed academic papers in the Journal of Genocide Research noted above.
1711:, the topic is widely controversial and there are ferocious arguments about it in the real world. It is best for Knowledge to be neutral and reflect an objective outlook on the issue. The title nominated better serves in protecting Knowledge's neutrality. 799:
Nearly all these sources date back to the early months of the war, when the casualties and damage were, though high, risible compared to the situation from March onwards, where the scale of the devastation multiplied to a level of qualitative difference.
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The purpose of this discussion is to decide on the right alternative name. I so happen to believe that the closer of the last discussion should have been able to count the !votes and group them by names, and decide on one of them, or as a noconsensus.
434:"alleged genocide", while the hatnote informs the reader that "his article is about genocide accusations". Then, the first sentence describes accusations of genocide, just like the rest of the article. Some have pointed to other articles, such as 1740:. What we have are only allegations. They should be described as such, and indeed, they are described as such in the lead of this page (I did not read anything below the lead). The title of the page should simply be consistent with its content. 849:" (which was actually published in a peer-reviewed journal by an expert in genocide studies), about how arguments of "security" and "defense" are used and wielded to justify and perpetrate genocide. Moses then expands this greatly in his book " 960:
I'm aware of the existence of such essays, and certainly the article should discuss in a balanced and NPOV way, the various opinions with due weight, but there also many more sources which are not convinced, even recent ones. For example this
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that's less reputable may take on the reputation of the author. In this case, there's nothing wrong with the publication's reliability, but I'm mainly offering the author as an expert on the topic of war crimes and the prosecution thereof.
1823:'Israeli military rules of engagement reportedly allow the killing of up to 20 civilians to take out a single junior Hamas fighter, 100 for a senior leader. By comparison, the United States put the ratio at 30-to-one for Saddam Hussein.( 2404:; was pinged here since I participated in the previous RM, and my position remains the same. Mainstream media and news outlets don't refer to what's happening in Gaza as a "genocide" in their own 'voice', so neither should Knowledge. 383:
The result of the move request was: This is currently running 2 to 1 against, with most citing procedural issues so in the interest of not wasting everyone's time more than it has already been wasted, I'm closing this. While there is
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I'm not insisting on using the exact same pictures with the exact same captions in the example I provided, I'm just saying that such a subject needs definitely more than one picture to illustrate it while taking into consideration
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So I would argue, since there hasn't been any massive change in such sources (though it could be argued a slight move in support of labelling this a genocide), there is not currently grounds to reargue the move of the article. --
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I have a conjecture about this. On essentially the same day that SA was alleged to have sought an extension, Russia sought an extension to a deadline for submitting a counter-memorial regarding Ukraine. The request and ruling is
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I think this single image undermines the reality of what's going on in Gaza considering that we got in Commons many precious pictures that illustrate the situation well and I think it would be a shame if they remained unused.
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South Africa is attempting to extend the deadline for presenting evidence against Israel at the International Court of Justice in The Hague because it is unable to prove its allegations of genocide, Kan News reported on
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to consider this until there is something more official. But I do believe bringing up the reports in at this point multiple sources (at least some of which are reliable) that the request is forthcoming. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez |
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should protect specific allegations of guilt of the crime of genocide for specific Israelis or other living individuals from being unequivocally stated, as the case is ongoing. I'm not sure that the current text does.
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And this is before we get into the laughable notion of "journalistic objectivity", where broadly sich a notion is ripped to shreds in research, and is even highlighted as an issue in regards to Israel-Palestine. --
2014:"the increasing genocidal rhetoric in the Knesset". Yes, this seems to be true. Somehow I am not surprised given the ferocity and the endless nature of the conflict. I have no idea how they are going to resolve it. 4226:
Those included here use the logic of legal cases brought against them for complicity. As there is a legal case brought against Romania by citizens of Romania, using my 1 revert in this 24 hour period to add it
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based on a fractured discussion that intentionally split editors up between two different "qualifier" words in order to make it seem like the current title had the most support. There is no academic consensus
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That chart also isn't just food because it also shows the other types of humanitarian aid broken out such as shelter and medical supplies. Also, looking at that site, the number was supposed to be 870,000.
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Given that oppose positions are grounded in prior discussion of a mass of first class RS, supporting a change requires serious new sourcing, not trumped up propaganda claims, duly dismissed, like the ToL
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You are probably right. Also, it takes some time for people to organize their Reddit, Discord etc. calls to arms/off-site canvassing efforts. There is normally a sizable delay between call and response.
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though that number is, of course, still staggeringly high. The death toll figure comes from the Hamas-run Health Ministry in Gaza.) Genocide is an incendiary accusation that should not be used loosely
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wholeheartedly believe that "Gaza genocide" is a premature title and does more harm than good, risking the erosion of public confidence in Knowledge for a wide swath of the population. My reasoning :
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That's not a fair summary of Charny's critique, and anyway the important part of the paper is the data, where a majority of respondents felt the journal involved Holocaust minimization and so forth.
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I did not say the conflict is too complex to possibly understand, and I agree with the author of the linked article about the "myths". This is an interesting "fact checking" article. Please check
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Individual scholars have no such commitment to neutrality. Certain journals might impose some standard of neutrality, but not so much the Journal of Genocide Research, which has been accused of
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Further to this, beyond all the issues with bullet points 1–7, which are all contentious claims in the scholarship of each point, I would like to focus on number 8. Bullet point 8 in Baruch's 8
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seem to suggest that these are mere accusations without any substance to them. Such a suggestion would require completely ignoring the words and actions of Israeli officials and IDF soldiers.
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there's nothing about this in the article, and I'd be surprised to find out that such a legal case wouldn't be considered undue when acussing a country of complicity in genocide in Knowledge.
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To be honest this RM seems like the continuation of the usual toxic battleground behaviour that dominates this topic area. A matter of weeks ago the previous RM closure was endorsed at
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Thank you. I'm sure more suitable photographs will gradually become available. I'd be grateful if you could keep an eye on the Commons and come up with an updated collage in a while. —
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found that "these measures, far from protecting Palestinian civilians, serve rather to support Israel’s genocidal campaign by systematically forcing civilians into unliveable areas". (
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As time has gone on we have seen more people come to the conclusion that this is genocide, a couple of prominent opinions of note that have come out since the last move request are
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is the official statement. Of course the matter won't be definitively put to bed until there is either an official denial or a request for an extension appears on the ICJ website.
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is not required for genocide, nor is "ancestry" and its correlates the only grounds on which genocide can be committed—even according to more restrictive definitions of genocide. (
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RS does not constrain discussion, it only constrains what is allowed in articles. If you know of an actual confirmation (more than just a repeat) of Kan's claim, please tell us.
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Why u wanna change the name if it's confirmed most victims are civilians 50% women and children. Says it's confirmed in article, change name and it's all of a sudden biased bruh
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press, as well as explicitly in the work of genocide scholars, in published academic articles assessing the current situation as genocidal. Particularly Yoav Di-Capua's article "
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Academic articles by experts in the field, in the leading journal for the field in question, should be considered of more weight than articles published in the popular press. --
3005: 2288:, making it a useful signal for assessing the neutrality of names. Of course this is an ideal; in reality no source is perfectly neutral. But when MSM sources are completely 2439:. Current title is clearly POV, there may not be any new arguments but hopefully there will be an actual assessment of consensus in this discussion. The last RM ended in a 2933: 704:
and that there have been three RMs on this article this year, the filling of another RM so soon after the last one was endorsed by a move review is entirely disruptive.
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It's not unusual for there to be delays in court proceedings, the case is expected to last for years. Anyway, those issues are for the specific article about the case.
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A few relevant experts have changed from "warning of potential genocide" to "this is genocidal", is the main difference in RS since the last move request. --
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not unique, as that is the argument that has lead to the accusations of complicity and legal actions around such in all countries listed as "complicit". --
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This article contains extensive text accusing various individuals such as Israeli cabinet members or even U.S. President Biden of complicity with crimes.
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Most of the experts who argue this is not genocide are legal scholars, applying the UN framework, that is, they argue there is not currently evidence of
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noted, nothing has changed since the last requested move, and the claim that "unambiguity is more important than concision" is completely unsupported by
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Sadly I don't think it is possible to verify whether those children's families accept using the photographs in Knowledge or not (I'd assume they don't).
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which affords some leeway. However, I think some of the stuff about complicity, for example mentioning several German politicians, goes a bit too far.
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This article is a good overview of the legal basics of Hamas' war crimes and why the war is one of self-defense and an attempt to rescue the hostages.
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Strictly pertaining to the Eli Rosenbaum op-ed, it's a question of the author's expertise and not simply the publication. An expert article that is
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here, when there was consensus, it is tendentious, making people go through the same shit because some people are upset they didn’t get their way.
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Such a move would further the article from a neutral point of view, and as mentioned above this issue has been handily and repeatedly settled.
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like the early commentators cited here (several with no credentials) was initially sceptical but changed his opinion in August for this reason.
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And to clarify, my previous comment is a summary of how Charny has conducted himself across multiple critiques, not this specific paper. --
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as editors involved in the prior RM. Part 4 of 4. Appologies if I've missed anyone or doubled up pinging anyone. It was a lot of editors.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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Perhaps if the article were renamed 'Not the Capital' it might help reduce the number of people trying to storm it to Stop the Steal.
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per Selfstudier and TarnishedPath who echoed what I wanted to say. How many times are we going to do this? Sixth time's the charm? -
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Arbitration Committee intervention, people will be able to actually decide on a NPOV title without being disrupted. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez |
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I created this discussion before you disruptively (re)posted the above RM and you improperly moved it, causing further disruption.
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moving this article to something that is less POV pushing - but I'm not a fan of this particular proposed title. It's unwieldy. --
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I suggest you AGF. If you notice any editors missing from my post, who you didn't ping already in your post, you may do so now.
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Sure no news agency is perfectly neutral; that doesn't really matter given that they're completely unanimous on this matter. —
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a moratorium (for 3/6 months, not any longer), but that vote is already over, extremely convincingly choosing for no moratorium
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condition meets the criteria for genocide anyhow. Is there even a definition for complicity in genocide in international law?
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this move would be an initial and crucial step in restoring Knowledge's credibility and neutrality regarding ARBPIA topics.
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is quite another, and here I'd really would like to make sure that Knowledge respects it and doesn't add to parents' trauma.
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Gaza as Twilight of Israel Exceptionalism: Holocaust and Genocide Studies from Unprecedented Crisis to Unprecedented Change
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released by the Israeli government that suggests that while most of the aid was public early on, more of it is private now.
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reputation to allow a title like this that states as a fact what is still in active, significant debate. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez |
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We just report what reliable sources say. The title has been dealt with. Don't really understand the shoehorning point?
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We've had two votes on this now. Unless there is some groundbreaking evidence that miraculously exonerates Israel from
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was nominated no less than 10x for deletion (different situation here) and currently is moved to its current target
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three months and nobody has said anything about this propaganda despite the many views that this article receives.
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Actually, the ratio of civilian:militant killed during this war is pretty low (1:1 according to Israeli sources).
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Your claim was that discussion shouldn't go here because there's a subarticle. That is attempting to shoehorn it
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The relationship between genocide status and casualty ratios is a matter for genocide scholars to discuss; this
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exists. I can't find anything on the ICJ site and I can't find anything in South African sources. For example,
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means this is already over, especially considering the last move review was concluded less than 3 weeks ago on
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journal ever since it retracted a comment by him accusing another Jewish genocide scholar of Holocaust denial.
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For the record in a population of 2 million over 11 months this amounts to 1.3 grams(!) per person per day.
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it's been a few weeks since we closed the last RM, i don't see any new evidence presented etc etc ... —
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that it was acceptable to kill 30 civilians in exchange for taking out one lower-order Hamas commander.
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I will note a precedent for repeated move requests despite nothing really changing due to a POV title,
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which they perceive as dishonest, and Knowledge's great potential for de-polarization is then wasted.
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Thank you for reminding me of this, I retract my request til at least better pictures are available —
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there is a discussion below on proposed names if you would like to help select a better alternative.
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Overall, there's nothing in here to suggest one side is emphatically right or wrong on that question
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MVBW. You are citing one Israeli source, that ignored the evidence of Israeli officials themselves.
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comes to my mind. Was it genocide of Armenians? That did not happen in Gaza, at least not yet.
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from yesterday the SA president is cited as saying that SA will file a memorial next month.
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published only 7 hours ago doesn't mention it even though it mentions the Oct 28 deadline.
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was published 16 October 2023, almost 11 months ago. Thirdly, I would point in counter to
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suppose we need that one for anything. If I find the actual KAN link, I'll let you know.
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I participated in the move review, but I did not participate in the May 3rd proposal. --
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Bags filled with body parts of Palestinians killed by rocket strikes in Al-Tabaeen school
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in the Journal of Genocide Research et al. ... instead of, erm, the local newspapers.
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Google Translate exists. Please post Kan News link, I can't find it in the article.
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uniquely that Romanian weapon sales to Israel have continued after the war started
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I strongly encourage that you first read the "Scholarly and expert opinions" table
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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propoped above, inserting here. The others still concatenate Gaza and genocide.
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ancestry or other aspects correlated with ancestry (e.g skin color, culture)"—
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rescue the hostages. I also think what David Simon has written is relevant;
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of quibbling, as compared to a difference of three orders of magnitude...
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The scholarly/expert opinion is more polarized that what has been claimed.
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Agreed that the proposed title is awkward. A better proposal is simply
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A man carries the body of a Palestinian child killed by the shelling
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Based on the discussion immediately above, I would like to propose
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is a minor consideration; any of the proposed names seem okay. —
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I don't trust any estimations made over 5 years in the future...@
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The KAN article is in Hebrew. Here's another source from JPost.
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Isn't the 'Moon made of green cheese' is more popular phrase?
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is more in line with the current content of the article.
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which trumpeted the claim you repeat almost verbatim
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This is just 4463:South Africa's genocide case against Israel 3037: 2284:Mainstream media has the unique feature of 1902:The 11 biggest myths about Israel-Palestine 4951: 2970:WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration 2467: 2266:Or maybe look to ask the scholarly papers 1345:Strongest possible oppose and speedy close 364:The following is a closed discussion of a 472:Polling (Requested move 7 September 2024) 4378:Why are you linking JNS instead of KAN? 4131:Supposed Romanian complicity in genocide 3872:"Genocide in Gaza is difficult to prove" 2942:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography 4856:, not the Indian one of the same name. 3987:Restoring my improperly removed comment 3665: 2972:have been notified of this discussion. 1985:Genocidal Mirroring in Israel/Palestine 1947:That was written in 2015, years before 621:nothing has changed since the last RM. 4225: 4171: 3829: 3818: 3602:Gazan genocide in the Israel–Hamas war 3001: 2241: 1365: 1046: 966: 942: 833: 759: 751: 570: 212:Palestinian body parts in plastic bags 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 4349:ICJ case delay sought by South Africa 735:1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight 341:The edit request has been retracted. 7: 4287:absolutely agree, that'd be classic 2129: 2064:Flight of Nagorno-Karabakh Armenians 737:. I support some similar rename per 431:The title doesn't match the article. 2934:WikiProject International relations 1369:Knowledge:Move_review/Log/2024_July 440:Black genocide in the United States 203:Dead infant in Kamal Adwan Hospital 3233:From talk page discussions above: 1788:Casualties of the Israel–Hamas war 1586:Strong oppose and procedural close 1202:Accusations of genocide in the ... 1002:Pulitzer Prize winning publication 965:Daily News piece, from last month 197:Bombing campaign of the Gaza Strip 24: 4753:I tend to agree with this. It is 4414:is apparently fairly right-wing. 4138:Gaza genocide#Romanian complicity 3978:The discussion above is closed. 3955:Rosenbaum, Eli M. (2024-08-11). 3896:Walter, Christian (2024-01-11). 3720:The War with Hamas: Legal Basics 2242:effectively become a proper name 1637:Allegations of Israeli apartheid 1520:this discussion should be closed 700:, was endorsed at a move review 386:a consensus against a moratorium 333: 181: 172: 161: 152: 141: 132: 95: 29: 3673:Divine, Donna Robinson (2019). 3600:as the new RM name in place of 3513:Palestinian genocide accusation 3441:) 22:28, 9 September 2024 (UTC) 2966:WikiProject Disaster management 743:Palestinian genocide accusation 357:Requested move 7 September 2024 223:the single image in the infobox 4934:22:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC) 4921:13:14, 12 September 2024 (UTC) 4903:07:35, 12 September 2024 (UTC) 4894:05:27, 12 September 2024 (UTC) 4880:04:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC) 4870:of the topic of this article. 4861:02:23, 12 September 2024 (UTC) 4836:16:54, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4804:09:59, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4789:09:34, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4767:05:53, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4749:05:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4740:04:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4725:04:18, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4714:this South African news report 4708:04:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4689:05:46, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4671:03:49, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4657:03:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4621:03:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4607:03:34, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4590:03:24, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4574:03:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4538:03:23, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4524:03:17, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4508:03:10, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4494:02:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4475:02:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4457:02:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4441:02:59, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4424:02:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4406:02:41, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4388:02:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4373:02:23, 11 September 2024 (UTC) 4337:10:28, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 4316:09:41, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 4302:00:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 4264:08:29, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 4060:That can be dealt with at AE. 3811:Jikeli, Gunther (2023-11-27). 3758:Zakaria, Fareed (2024-01-12). 3718:Baruch, Pnina Sharvit (2023). 3655:08:57, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3636:08:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3618:08:54, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3586:07:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3565:07:13, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3550:03:29, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3533:02:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3507:00:13, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3458:05:38, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3407:15:11, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3327:13:49, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3294:11:06, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3280:09:23, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3250:08:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3229:08:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3208:04:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3180:07:11, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3166:03:42, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 3151:02:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 2563:17:38, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 2542:17:30, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 2522:17:12, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 2505:08:56, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 2486:07:56, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 2458:03:27, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 2375:15:48, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 2353:15:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 2332:09:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 2313:04:16, 10 September 2024 (UTC) 1635:per Tarnishedpath. 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That is what I am saying. 943:severe humanitarian shortage 917:Journal of Genocide Research 575:see the 5th banner down here 209:Child dead due to starvation 2599:The Great Mule of Eupatoria 1645:Settlement of Gaza genocide 886:" by Omar Shahabudin McDoom 351:23:37, 16 August 2024 (UTC) 325:20:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC) 308:18:50, 16 August 2024 (UTC) 288:18:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC) 260:02:43, 16 August 2024 (UTC) 122:to reactivate your request. 110:has been answered. Set the 4983: 4306:I've removed Romania. -- 3371:Proposed alternative names 2938:WikiProject Discrimination 2906:DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord 741:and similar article title 663:There was an RM closed on 4773:a google translation here 4482:applies on all articles. 4461:This is a matter for the 3910:10.59704/f0aacf09b66eda04 3604:as proposed above by OP @ 2958:WikiProject Ethnic groups 2744:CommunityNotesContributor 1672:. 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