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Hmm, I think I actually agree with you here. There isn't very much to say about the design of games in general, because of the huge variation of games. You can't compare a casino game and a role-playing game and easily point out what they should or may have in common.Perhaps this page would do better
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Whatever non-duplicate content in this taxonomy should be merged into the general article on games. It should then be replaced with: A) History of game design B) Common issues in game design C) The process of game design (prototypes, testing, revision, blind-testing, etc.). D) How game design occurs
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Problems still persist in several of the subsections. For example in the subsection on "Dice games" we have a brief description of them, describing them as old and associated with gambling. Then we give examples of dice games and then explain how they are confusingly similar to board games. At no
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While some of this page's content is general and applicable to both sports and tabletop games (for example, Tools), much of the other content seems specific to tabletop games. Should this page eventually be split into Game Design and
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