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Thank you for the link. I'll have to read through that. In the meantime, there is a phylogenetic tree based on
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Your interpretation is correct. The most relevant sentences from the source are "Nevertheless, dominant males appear to copulate more often than lower-ranking males," and "Even though mating success may be skewed towards a dominant male in spider monkeys this may not translate into higher paternity
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Can you merge the two sentences in the behavior section about groups? It might be formulated as something like "it lives in fission--fusion societies with an average group size of 20 to 42 animals, which split into smaller groups...". Also, it's a bit odd to report "average" group size when you are
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The first paragraph is specific to the species, the 2nd paragraph is general to spider monkeys. At least I haven't found a source specifying a particular species that intelligence study referred to. I can remove that paragraph if it is a problem, but since the study refers to "spider monkeys" in
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In reference to its eating insects, is there any information on whether it consciously eats them or just accidentally ingests them together with fruit? I know that the latter happens in several fruit-eating rodents. Also, what are the "small animals"? Insects are also small animals, after all.
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I found a source that stated that the species has black hands and feet without qualification. I used that since that is one of the features that differentiates the species. The original sources (one of which may have actually used the other) could easily just be hedging against an oddball
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The first sentence of this paragraph suggests (to me at least) that
Geoffroy's is more intelligent than spider monkeys in general. How about rephrasing it as "Although they do not use tools, spider monkeys, including Geoffroy's Spider Monkey, are regarded as intelligent primates."?
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In the lead, you say that its reliance on ripe fruits causes it to require a lot of primary forest to survive. Both elements (reliance on ripe fruit and need for primary forest) are sourced in the body of the article, but the connection between the two is not.
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The description section mentioned twice that the tail is prehensile. I deleted the first mention, because it seemed more relevant in the context of the second, which talks about the tail's function. If you think this can be arranged better, please change
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I added some material on this, but none of my sources are all that specific, which I think is due to the lack of agreement on how many spider monkey species there are in general, or how to define them. This issue transcends
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Colombia issue; I've got no problems with that now. You might want to consider whether this is enough evidence to place it in the Colombia mammals category; I have no opinion on that. Two more small sourcing concerns:
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In the first paragraph of the reproduction section, I don't completely understand the final two sentences. Does this mean that we know that dominant males mate more often, but not whether that also results in them fathering more offspring?
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I am not sure. Both sources cited use the term "usually" without specifying when the exceptions occur. Unfortunately, since the species description is so variable, many sources gloss over the details of the coloration. Garber notes that
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I deleted the "by collecting vaginal fluids" part in the clitoris paragraph because it seemed redundant with the phrase following it. Please reinstate it if you think it contains essential information, but do rephrase the sentence in that
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In the second paragraph of the description section, could you specify what the "usually" in the second and third sentence refers to? Is this individual or interpopulational variation?
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In the lead you cite Groves' MSW 3 account for its occurrence in
Colombia, but Groves only says that it occurs from S Mexico to Panama. Please use a cite that supports that fact.
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Vestigial seems to be a better term, although lacking an external thumb may also be appropriate. But since there is at least a metacarpal, "lacking" is probably too strong.
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With the changes you carried out today, I think this article is good to go now. Congratulations. I do recommend you include a little on diagnostic characters, though.
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