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as it is now, the two entries "elecitric potential" and "potential" (the very last) are identical. would it not make much more sense to interpret the second potential as gravitational potential? then its SI dimension would be (the same as energy/mass), and the multiplication factor would just be c.
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I've made the edits indicated above, having gotten no comments. The conversion table from Wald is for cgs units, unfortunately. This would only matter for charge and related electrical units. I've marked up the table to indicate it's a cgs table as the simplest course of action to fix the issue.
131:, Appendix F, which uses c = G =1? This is probably the most widely used graduate textbook on general relativity in the English-speaking world. Can anyone cite a major textbook which used either of the other two conventions mentioned by Joke137? --- 233: 364:
I cross-checked the conversion formulas for SI units with google calculator. Examples (cut and paste the following formula into google calc). epsilon_0 is "electric constant" in Google.
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I extensively edited the August 2006 version of this article and had been monitoring it for bad edits, but I am leaving the WP and am now abandoning this article to its fate.
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Yes, 8πG is another common convention, as is 16πG=1. This is problematic. My impression is that the most common modern convention is 8πG=1, but I could be mistaken. –
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There actually are several different systems involved here. Your "sometimes" and the "sometimes" starting the second paragaph of the article are clues to that fact.
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I went through and added the SI units and conversion factors to the table (a major edit at least in terms of work).
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Just wanted to provide notice that I am only responsible (in part) for the last version I edited; see
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I believe there should be a entry for converting SI charge units in the official conversion table.
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charge of electron = 1.60*10^-19 coulomb * 8.62*10^-18 m/coulomb = 1.38*10^-36 m = 1.38*10^-34 cm
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In situations involving electrical units, we add the constraint that the quantity 4πε
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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Using google calculator, I get for the conversion constant:
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question: what source should be used for constant values?
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Good luck in your search for information, regardless!---
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charge of electron = 1.381*10^-34 cm (MTW back cover)
186: 228:{\displaystyle {\sqrt {G/4\pi \epsilon _{0}c^{4}}}} 227: 368:(ampere)*(sqrt(G/(4*pi*electric constant)))/c^3= 374:(volt)*(sqrt(G*(4*pi*electric constant))/c^2)= 371:(tesla)*(sqrt(G*(4*pi*electric constant))/c)= 8: 378: 312:It seems that the sentence is incomplete: 217: 207: 192: 187: 185: 270:1 statcolumb / 1 coulomb = 3.33*10^-10 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 7: 276:http://en.wikipedia.org/Statcoulomb 278:This is incosistent with the wiki 24: 263:2.87 * 10^-25 cm = 2.87* 10^-27 m 262:1 statcolumb * sqrt(G)/c^2 -: --> 267:8.62 * 10^-18 m (from MKS table) 97:Isn't sometimes 8πG set to 1? -- 29: 1: 352:02:50, 30 December 2012 (UTC) 337:18:00, 28 October 2009 (UTC) 18:Talk:Geometrized unit system 139:01:33, 3 October 2005 (UTC) 120:18:10, 2 October 2005 (UTC) 101:11:05, July 31, 2005 (UTC) 413: 397:01:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC) 300:22:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC) 285:more consistency checks: 245:23:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC) 166:23:52, 30 June 2006 (UTC) 110:11:16, 31 July 2005 (UTC) 82:15:46, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC) 74:Should this be moved to 87:geometrized unit system 229: 258:consistency checks: 230: 127:But what about Wald, 42:of past discussions. 184: 156:User:Hillman/Archive 325:vacuum permittivity 225: 129:General relativity 399: 383:comment added by 223: 67: 66: 54: 53: 48:current talk page 404: 274:consistent with 266:1 coulomb -: --> 234: 232: 231: 226: 224: 222: 221: 212: 211: 196: 188: 171:MKS charge units 76:geometrized unit 63: 56: 55: 33: 32: 26: 412: 411: 407: 406: 405: 403: 402: 401: 359: 322: 318: 307: 282:page, however! 252: 213: 203: 182: 181: 173: 149: 147:Students beware 95: 72: 59: 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 410: 408: 376: 375: 372: 369: 358: 355: 320: 316: 309:Hello Pervect 306: 303: 294: 293: 290: 272: 271: 268: 264: 251: 248: 220: 216: 210: 206: 202: 199: 195: 191: 172: 169: 148: 145: 144: 143: 142: 141: 113: 112: 94: 91: 85:I moved it to 71: 68: 65: 64: 52: 51: 34: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 409: 400: 398: 394: 390: 386: 382: 373: 370: 367: 366: 365: 362: 356: 354: 353: 349: 345: 339: 338: 334: 330: 326: 313: 310: 304: 302: 301: 298: 291: 288: 287: 286: 283: 281: 277: 269: 265: 261: 260: 259: 256: 249: 247: 246: 243: 239: 236: 218: 214: 208: 204: 200: 197: 193: 189: 179: 176: 170: 168: 167: 164: 159: 157: 152: 146: 140: 137: 134: 130: 126: 125: 124: 123: 122: 121: 118: 111: 108: 104: 103: 102: 100: 92: 90: 88: 83: 81: 80:Michael Hardy 77: 69: 62: 58: 57: 49: 45: 41: 40: 35: 28: 27: 19: 379:— Preceding 377: 363: 360: 344:Diogenes2000 340: 329:83.30.48.117 314: 311: 308: 305:Introduction 295: 284: 273: 257: 253: 240: 237: 180: 177: 174: 160: 153: 150: 128: 114: 107:Gene Nygaard 96: 86: 84: 73: 60: 43: 37: 36:This is an 357:More edits 319:, where ε 61:Archive 1 393:contribs 381:unsigned 385:Pervect 297:Pervect 242:Pervect 117:Joke137 99:Pjacobi 39:archive 136:(talk) 250:Edits 93:8πG=1 70:Title 16:< 389:talk 348:talk 333:talk 323:is 280:cgs 133:CH 395:) 391:• 350:) 342:-- 335:) 327:. 205:ϵ 201:π 163:CH 387:( 346:( 331:( 321:0 317:0 219:4 215:c 209:0 198:4 194:/ 190:G 50:.

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Talk:Geometrized unit system
archive
current talk page
Archive 1
geometrized unit
Michael Hardy
Pjacobi
Gene Nygaard
11:16, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
Joke137
18:10, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
CH
(talk)
01:33, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
User:Hillman/Archive
CH
23:52, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Pervect
23:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/Statcoulomb
cgs
Pervect
22:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
vacuum permittivity
83.30.48.117
talk
18:00, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Diogenes2000
talk
02:50, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

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