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happening upon a complete grouping of the physical publications of George Orwell's works. If you find this line of thinking unhelpful, it would be sufficient to fill the "Bibliography" section with a list of citations for books and/or websites that contain a bibliography for George Orwell, so long as all the entries on this Knowledge (XXG) article are found on at least one of the bibliographies cited. The
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No, it's the bit of OVERLINK I already noted, i.e. the bit where it says "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, links may be repeated in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead." It's helpful if the reader
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In response to Koavf's message on my talk page, the various publications need to be referenced in some way, pure and simple. Whether individual cites for each entry or general references that cover everything, the contents of the list must be reliably sourced. That's the biggest stumbling block right
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I compiled it by using the library. I just got these book and looked at the table of contents. In the case of one or two of them, I looked at the tables of contents on Amazon or Google Books, but for most (CEJL, Why I Write, the West book, Davison, the 2008 compilations), I just looked inside of the
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should be cited directly. There are a lot of entries on this featured list and it would be very time-consuming to make sure that each is specifically mentioned by one of the sources listed in the "External links" section, which should be renamed "Bibliography." So long as Justin can verify that the
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In order to compile this list, did you use as a guide any websites or books that list George Orwell's works? If so, they should be listed in the "External links" section, which should be renamed the "Bibliography" section. You must have used some manner of compiling this list other than randomly
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I want to inform people that there are few issues with the article about several unreferenced sections. It is important if it will be fixed before next week TFL slot. so we wouldn't have to change the main app date it's important if we fix it as soon as possible.
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Maybe someone else would like to comment here. My understanding of what's being asked for is evidence that certain essays are contained within certain books. There's no verifiable evidence of that using reliable, third-party sources.
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Well, looks like the discussion at MOS has come to a crashingly quiet conclusion. Thanks to all concerned editors, but not quite sure we achieved anything here other than to re-affirm there's nothing changing the status quo.
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books and made a table. This is a verifiable source which anyone could use. The links are provided simply because an external links section is recommended at Knowledge (XXG). I added the same ODP link to
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My sources are the books themselves, which constitute verifiable and reliable sources. I didn't use the external links for sources, but someone could I suppose. What it is I need to do? —
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on this article? I removed it and it has been queried so I thought I would bring it here to see if there is some hidden utility I have missed in this style of linking. --
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which is to help the reader when the table is sorted by any of the columns, such that the linkable items are linked every time. Can you explain a good reason to
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it be helpful for a reader to find a link when they re-sorted a table immediately rather than go looking for it? You're the one changing the
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You mention six novels but this are not identified specifically. Form reading the subsection I wouldn't have immediately worked out that
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It looks to me as though the entries listed in the "External links" section source most if not all of the information in question. The
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link items every time in a sortable table if linking them every time offers the potential to be of use to readers per OVERLINK?
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I have reworked the "External links" section into a "Bibliography" section. Does anyone have any remaining sourcing concerns?
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sources he used to compile this featured list are provided in that section, the table should have no sourcing problems.
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The table is sourced. I honestly don't understand it. It says "such-and-such essay is in such-and-such book"--the book
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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website is one link that should be converted to a citation for that section. Some of the websites listed on the
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There are a lot of red links ot BBC Eastern Service. Is there a reason why you chose to link it more than once?
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resorts a sortable table to be able to link to an article without having to search for the link. Cheers.
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now, since nothing in the table is referenced. That needs to be fixed if this is to keep its TFL spot.
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sources. Do I need another source that replicates the table of contents of a book? It's ridiculous. —
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Perhaps some info could be merged to retain current size and yet have four paragraphs, per
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In the full list of publications, what do the acronyms in the "Collected" column mean?
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so you tell me why you think it isn't helpful. Or would you just prefer to resort to
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I would guess that the reader needs some evidence that such-and-such essay is
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Fix POV wording of "notable essays" with clearly-defined inclusion criteria.
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The ISBN's are ugly and hard to read when they are included in the prose.
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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Manual of Style/Linking#100 links to The Observer?
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Surely the lead should mention that Orwell's real name was Eric Blair?
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be helpful given the copious explanations I've provided to you? Why
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has been submitted as a candidate to be featured on the Main Page as
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For anyone else reading this, the next forum we've moved to is
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This page currently has five (5) paragraphs in the lede sect.
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Not an "encyclopedic" reason, no, but a guideline reason, per
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counted as one. I suggest you identify the novels explicitly.
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