470:(giljon) plainly denotes ' evangelion ' in the passage before us. No doubt the Gospels are included amongst the ' Books of the Minim ' ; but I do not think it can be shown that ' giljon ' by itself ever means a Gospel. If that were the case, there would be the less occasion for the plays on the word ' Aven-giljon ' and * Avon-giljon ' which will be mentioned below (s. p. 162). Friedlander (d. Vorchr. jtid. Gnosticismus, p. 83 fol.) identifies the ' giljonim ' of the Minim with the Diagramma of the Ophite sect of the Gnostics. This may be correct ; but as the Talmud never gives any indication of what the ' giljonim ' contained beyond ' memorials,' the guess is hazardous."
569:(Is. 3:22, 8:1). And only the later און גליון and עון גליון in the Babylonian Talmud (Shabbat 116:10) can be reliably identified with the term Gospel. Because in 116 there is a quote from עוון גליון, which conveys the meaning from Matt. 5:17: אֲנָא לָא לְמִיפְחַת מִן אוֹרָיְיתָא דְּמֹשֶׁה אֲתֵיתִי (וְלָא) לְאוֹסֹפֵי עַל אוֹרָיְיתָא דְמֹשֶׁה אֲתֵיתִי (I did not take away from the law of Moses came add Moses to the law). So let me ask you, what do you think about this?
565:
we corrected them, and now I do not find any other basis. Therefore, the preamble misleads the reader and also needs to be edited. I suggest a new version like this: "are terms used by Jewish rabbis of the
Mishnaic and Talmudic eras to refer the fields, the unwritten part of the book". And then, of course, you will have to edit other parts of the article in which גליון (gilyon) are identified with the Gospels. After all, gilyon is
165:
417:
329:
302:
77:
87:
53:
218:
197:
339:
228:
22:
405:
564:
In connection with the last revision, the question arises as to how correct the preamble of the article is. Because there is no basis for the phrase "to refer to a book or books they considered heretical, likely the
Evangelion or the Gospels" now. Previously, this basis was the words of Herford. But
499:
The source for this appears to be the next reference (Pearson, p.19), which says "On the other hand, subsequent attempts to interpret all occurrences of these terms as references to Jewish
Christianity, as is done by R. T. Herford,15 fall to the ground in face of the facts." I imagine someone
465:
means the unwritten portion of a book, the margin. But, as in modern books, the margins of ancient MSS. were used for annotations ; and it is reasonable to suppose that these annotations would include texts of
Scripture, quoted as illustrations. Hence the question would arise whether, although the
514:
I propose to replace the corresponding sentence with the following: "Even R. T. Herford identified the guillonym not as the Gospel, but as «the fields, the unwritten part of the book.» Although he presents them as references to Jewish
Christianity." Please correct my English if necessary.
500:
took this, and replaced "Jewish
Christianity" with "Gospels". Pearson references the 1903 text, page 97 and continuing. How would you reconcile Pearson's assertion with the quote you brought, and how would you propose to rephrase the article?
173:
63:
661:
636:
395:
385:
149:
681:
155:
113:
651:
284:
274:
361:
466:
corpus of the book was heretical, the marginal citations of
Scripture were to be regarded as sacred. Jost (Gsch. d. Jdtums. ii. 40 n.) says that
671:
656:
641:
435:
121:
676:
178:
631:
352:
307:
250:
646:
117:
666:
613:
458:
125:
101:
58:
241:
202:
33:
430:
312:
249:-related articles on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
574:
548:
529:
That looks good (I have some minor
English corrections but those can come after you have added it into the page)
520:
489:
475:
570:
544:
516:
485:
471:
39:
580:
21:
344:
360:
on
Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
457:"However R.T. Herford identified gilyonim as gospels." It is not true! Herford himself writes on
534:
505:
92:
233:
625:
422:
357:
164:
530:
501:
86:
412:
334:
328:
301:
223:
82:
338:
76:
52:
217:
196:
112:-related subjects. Please participate by editing the article, and help us
108:
404:
246:
484:
In addition, Herford's book was not published in 1907, but in 1903.
584:
552:
538:
524:
509:
493:
479:
15:
403:
163:
356:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
245:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
176:, a work group which is currently considered to be
154:This article has not yet received a rating on the
106:, a project to improve Knowledge's articles on
8:
578:
296:
191:
47:
603:Christianity in the Talmud, 1907 page 155
596:
543:Okay. Then I rule, and it's up to you.
298:
193:
49:
19:
7:
662:Low-importance Christianity articles
637:Unknown-importance Religion articles
350:This article is within the scope of
239:This article is within the scope of
172:This article is within the scope of
98:This article is within the scope of
38:It is of interest to the following
370:Knowledge:WikiProject Christianity
14:
682:WikiProject Christianity articles
612:Christianity in the Talmud, 1903
373:Template:WikiProject Christianity
415:
337:
327:
300:
226:
216:
195:
85:
75:
51:
20:
652:Low-importance Judaism articles
453:Section "Contention of meaning"
390:This article has been rated as
279:This article has been rated as
553:18:56, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
539:08:44, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
134:Knowledge:WikiProject Religion
1:
672:Low-importance Bible articles
657:C-Class Christianity articles
642:WikiProject Religion articles
525:05:52, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
428:This article is supported by
364:and see a list of open tasks.
259:Knowledge:WikiProject Judaism
253:and see a list of open tasks.
137:Template:WikiProject Religion
585:09:18, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
262:Template:WikiProject Judaism
510:14:03, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
494:18:46, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
480:18:39, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
698:
677:WikiProject Bible articles
396:project's importance scale
285:project's importance scale
156:project's importance scale
632:C-Class Religion articles
411:
389:
322:
278:
211:
171:
153:
70:
46:
647:C-Class Judaism articles
353:WikiProject Christianity
124:standards, or visit the
567:something smooth, clean
667:C-Class Bible articles
408:
168:
28:This article is rated
407:
376:Christianity articles
174:Interfaith work group
167:
102:WikiProject Religion
345:Christianity portal
242:WikiProject Judaism
409:
169:
114:assess and improve
34:content assessment
587:
571:Александр Порядин
545:Александр Порядин
517:Александр Порядин
486:Александр Порядин
472:Александр Порядин
450:
449:
446:
445:
442:
441:
431:WikiProject Bible
295:
294:
291:
290:
190:
189:
186:
185:
140:Religion articles
128:for more details.
689:
616:
610:
604:
601:
425:
420:
419:
418:
378:
377:
374:
371:
368:
347:
342:
341:
331:
324:
323:
318:
315:
304:
297:
267:
266:
265:Judaism articles
263:
260:
257:
236:
231:
230:
229:
220:
213:
212:
207:
199:
192:
142:
141:
138:
135:
132:
126:wikiproject page
95:
90:
89:
79:
72:
71:
66:
55:
48:
31:
25:
24:
16:
697:
696:
692:
691:
690:
688:
687:
686:
622:
621:
620:
619:
611:
607:
602:
598:
593:
455:
421:
416:
414:
375:
372:
369:
366:
365:
343:
336:
316:
310:
264:
261:
258:
255:
254:
232:
227:
225:
205:
139:
136:
133:
130:
129:
93:Religion portal
91:
84:
61:
32:on Knowledge's
29:
12:
11:
5:
695:
693:
685:
684:
679:
674:
669:
664:
659:
654:
649:
644:
639:
634:
624:
623:
618:
617:
605:
595:
594:
592:
589:
583:comment added
562:
561:
560:
559:
558:
557:
556:
555:
454:
451:
448:
447:
444:
443:
440:
439:
436:Low-importance
427:
426:
410:
400:
399:
392:Low-importance
388:
382:
381:
379:
362:the discussion
349:
348:
332:
320:
319:
317:Low‑importance
305:
293:
292:
289:
288:
281:Low-importance
277:
271:
270:
268:
251:the discussion
238:
237:
234:Judaism portal
221:
209:
208:
206:Low‑importance
200:
188:
187:
184:
183:
170:
160:
159:
152:
146:
145:
143:
97:
96:
80:
68:
67:
56:
44:
43:
37:
26:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
694:
683:
680:
678:
675:
673:
670:
668:
665:
663:
660:
658:
655:
653:
650:
648:
645:
643:
640:
638:
635:
633:
630:
629:
627:
615:
614:p. 155, n. 1.
609:
606:
600:
597:
590:
588:
586:
582:
576:
572:
568:
554:
550:
546:
542:
541:
540:
536:
532:
528:
527:
526:
522:
518:
513:
512:
511:
507:
503:
498:
497:
496:
495:
491:
487:
482:
481:
477:
473:
469:
464:
460:
452:
437:
434:(assessed as
433:
432:
424:
413:
406:
402:
401:
397:
393:
387:
384:
383:
380:
363:
359:
355:
354:
346:
340:
335:
333:
330:
326:
325:
321:
314:
309:
306:
303:
299:
286:
282:
276:
273:
272:
269:
252:
248:
244:
243:
235:
224:
222:
219:
215:
214:
210:
204:
201:
198:
194:
181:
180:
175:
166:
162:
161:
157:
151:
148:
147:
144:
127:
123:
119:
115:
111:
110:
105:
104:
103:
94:
88:
83:
81:
78:
74:
73:
69:
65:
60:
57:
54:
50:
45:
41:
35:
27:
23:
18:
17:
608:
599:
566:
563:
483:
467:
462:
461:: "The word
459:p. 155, n. 1
456:
429:
423:Bible portal
391:
367:Christianity
358:Christianity
351:
308:Christianity
280:
240:
177:
116:articles to
107:
100:
99:
40:WikiProjects
579:—Preceding
626:Categories
591:References
64:Interfaith
179:inactive
131:Religion
109:Religion
59:Religion
581:undated
394:on the
283:on the
256:Judaism
247:Judaism
203:Judaism
30:C-class
531:Ar2332
502:Ar2332
36:scale.
468:גליון
463:גליון
313:Bible
575:talk
549:talk
535:talk
521:talk
506:talk
490:talk
476:talk
120:and
118:good
577:)
386:Low
275:Low
150:???
122:1.0
628::
551:)
537:)
523:)
508:)
492:)
478:)
438:).
311::
62::
573:(
547:(
533:(
519:(
504:(
488:(
474:(
398:.
287:.
182:.
158:.
42::
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.
