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The few that are not listed here may also either not be reliable or perhaps even relevant (eg: most of the stuff about the
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Women's emancipation came early to the
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Here follows the "Grewals Today" section: "Most of the
Grewals are settled in the district of Ludhiana in Punjab in India. Being wealthy, they are much ahead of others in the spheres of education, business and agriculture. Today, many Grewals can be found abroad, mainly in countries such as Canada,
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Ravinder Grewal (Bhangra Singer), Gippy Grewal (Bhangra Singer), Gurmant Singh Grewal (Canadian politician), Nina Grewal (Canadian politician), Alexi S. Grewal (Olympic gold medalist and former professional road racing cyclist from the United States) and Simi Grewal
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Industry, the 1st Grewal to join Indian School of Mines, Dhanbad 1st batch was S. Sarwan Singh Grewal in 1926, who went on to become the 1st Indian, Chief Inspector of Mines in 1954 till 1964. S Balbir Singh Grewal joined Indian School of Mines in 1940, Pickering Medalist
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There is something not quite right in the history listed here -- How can
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I am not even reading your revision in full. You have ignored the obvious: most of the sources that you list are not reliable. Forget the point that they are historical because that is in fact a big part of the problem: time and again, for example, the consensus has been that we do not use Raj
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As a fellow Sikh, I find this wording arrogant. What exactly is meant by "much ahead?" Ahead in what? Wealth? Education? I didn't realize there was a race among Jats for wealth and education or whatever? Anyway - most people would agree that this section could be left out or reworded.
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Grewal's practically ran the Mining
Industry Coal/Iron Ore for more than 25 years till Nationalisation with Mr Jagjit Singh Grewal,1950 Graduate, Indian School of Mines,as General Manager Ranigunj Coal Association, Dhanbad,was the most famous & known Mining Engineer.
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Please only make meaningful contributions to this page. Please take your personal agenda elsewhere. History is recorded based on historical accounts and historian documentation. Please only contribute to topics you have some basic understanding of. Thanks.
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The majority of these sources listed are published in historical manuscripts or by large state universities and institutions. The information has been supported by multiple historians. Most of the historical data we have in general is from such
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Hutchinson, J. & J. PH Vogel (1933). History of the Panjab Hill States, Vol. II. 1st edition: Govt. Printing, Pujab, Lahore, 1933. Reprint 2000. Department of Language and Culture, Himachal Pradesh. Chapter XIII Bilaspur State, pp.
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City, such as Threeke, Dolon Kalan, Noorwal, Ratan, Lalton, Kalan, Gujjarawal, Phallewal, Pakhowal, Qila Raipur, Sarabha, Baddowal, Sunet, Daad, Narangwal and Kadian. Grewals started living in these villages around 1469 AD.
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Hill Major John. History of the 15th Ludhiana Sikhs. 1910. Hill, Samuel Charles. Catalogue of the Home Miscellaneous series of the India Office records. India Office at His Majesty’s Stationery Office, London.
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They are famous for keeping their promises and they consider pros and cons of each undertaking, before doing it. They are more inclined towards Army service, are of good character, and benefit for themselves.
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Details: Sardar Bahadur Sir Shamsher Singh Grewal K.C.I.E (8th January, 1860- 8th March, 1920) was the Chief Minister of Jind State. The First Grewal to be knighted by the British King George V in 1917.
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You are quite right, and I have removed some of that POV praise. The section, like the entire article, is unverified anyway, and you would have been perfectly in your right if you would have removed it.
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Grewal, J. S. (1990). "Chapter 6: The Sikh empire (1799–1849)". The Sikh empire (1799–1849). The New Cambridge History of India. The Sikhs of the Punjab. Cambridge University Press.
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There were 9 more Grewal's closely related to each, who have Graduated from Indian School of Mines till 1971, with P.S. Grewal being the last & 2nd Generation Mining Engineer.
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settled here. The others moved up into the hills of Himachal and perhaps they were the one who established the kingdoms of Nalagarh Nahan & Bilaspur.--hummmm...
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The characteristic and customs section has support from the sources listed, but I removed the Settlement Report by Gordan Walker, as it was somewhat redundant.
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683:Sitush
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196:India
155:India
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