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would add to the page in telling the accuracy of the situation. Most of the time, it seems like all there is regarding these 9,700 or so $ 20 bills is that none of them ever turned up (again, besides what Ingram found), as if that's some kind of overwhelming evidence that Cooper perished. It clearly is not. I went and did some of my own research and calculations based on what you guys discussed here. Basically, the U.S. Treasury says it printed 33 million bills a day in 2006. Of those, a little more than a fifth - or, a little more than 7 million - were $ 20 bills. Obviously, the U.S. economy and population were smaller in 1971; in fact, the U.S. population in 1971 was almost exactly 2/3 (just over 200 million) of what it is now (just over 300 million). Just to go with a low-end estimate, let's suppose that the U.S. printed 500,000 $ 20 bills per day in 1971 (1/14 of the number it printed per day in 2006). That means 182.5 million $ 20 bills would have printed in 1971 alone - or about 18,814 $ 20 bills for each one of the $ 20 bills that Cooper could have had. And, the speculative 182.5 million twenties would be in addition to the $ 20 bills already in circulation that would not have been printed in 1971. And with virtually no real sophisticated computer systems to speak of at that time, with 1970s technology, no scanners, and with tellers or clerks having to check by hand and match it up on the list of serial numbers given by the FBI - I think we truly are talking about a needle in a haystack here. I have to agree with what was said above, that the best chance would have been to maybe find one in a Washington area bank shortly after the heist - which had to be what the FBI was hoping for. --
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the dummy chute. Many investigators have taken this to mean that Cooper took the dummy chute with him and therefore was not experienced or did not check the chutes. However, there is no fact that he did or did not check them. We can only guess, really. Frank Heyle, a survivalist expert often featured on DB Cooper TV specials, was quoted in Himmelsbach's book as saying that he himself would have taken the dummy chute with him because of all the survivalist uses for a parachute once you land. If you were familiar with parachutes, then you could tell that it was a sealed/dummy chute without too much examination and therefore be able to tell that the FBI hadn't put anything in it/tampered with it. Furthermore, the question has arisen as to why Cooper took the simple, hard-to-steer military-style chute rather than the more deluxe/sport model he left on board. Cossey himself has postulated that this is a sign that Cooper was an amateur. However, a navy parachuter recently called in to a radio talk show and said that it makes perfect sense that, if Cooper had military training, he would have wanted the military-style chute. A couple reasons for this: 1) he obviously would have been most familiar with such a chute, and 2) the military-style parachute that Cooper supposedly took was a much simpler parachute, with simpler rigging and general arrangement, than the sport model that got left on board. Because of this, it would have been much easier for him to check the military-style chute - to see that it was rigged properly, had not been tampered with, or didn't have some kind of FBI bug stuck in it - and then close it back up and actually use it. Just some things to think about.
410:. I find this map to be likely correct, because it comes from a more reliable source, and several experts talk all the time about theories involving the money's floating down from the Washougal River and into the Columbia, and the map does well to show why. I've yet to hear a theory stating that the money floated in the Columbia River past the city of Vancouver. There are also sources out there that clearly misuse the terms "upstream" and "downstream" on this subject. Let's be clear that the Columbia River flows INTO the Pacific Ocean and therefore basically flows from east to west. Therefore, anything on the river east of Vancouver is UPSTREAM from the city and anything on the river west of Vancouver is DOWNSTREAM from the city. I just think we need to be clear about this. Especially with the new talk of the parachute that was recently found and how its location in relation to the found money could blow theories out of the water (no pun intended) about the money having gotten to the beach by purely natural means, it is necessary for people to know precisely and clearly where Ingram found the cash. 2549:
in the latest photo (on coasttocoastam.com) did not look like the drawings of Cooper, especially because the man in the photo has a nose that is too large (especially in respect to the one FBI sketch, which apparently resembles McCoy Jr.). But as the wikipedia article currently and correctly states, flight attendant Florence Schaffner has always felt that that sketch of Cooper (along with others) was inaccurate. If anyone has seen the 1988 Unsolved Mysteries episode on Cooper (it's available on youtube for now), they had Schaffner work with a sketch artist again to create another drawing. I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but the drawing that she came up with for Unsolved Mysteries shows a man with a bigger nose than in some of the previous drawings and the result is an image of a man who looks VERY much (in my opinion) like the one in the photo featured in the above link to coasttocoastam.com. I suspect there will be updates on this latest suspect soon. Cook makes it sound as though he thinks this guy is THE guy and we could find out sometime in 2008. -
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articles. For example, one article I just read that discusses the new parachute discovery stated that the money found in 1980 was discovered in the mountains and also stated this: "The rest of the money was never found, but the FBI determined the bills were a match to the Cooper crime. However, the found chute throws the authenticity of those bills into question." The latter statement in that quote is as absurd as it is untrue. By the way, I'm not sure the current introduction to the article reads correctly when it talks about "three significant clues" having been found and then includes the found parachute in that discussion. As the intro goes on to say, the parachute at this point is only a "possible clue." At this point, it could be nothing; investigators are trying to find out if it's something. If and when it gets verified as something related to the case, then it can truly be included as a "significant clue."
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especially one of a kind and checked in a place unfamiliar. its is also absolutely uncredible they would deliver a demonstration chute by accident (only moreso from a professional sports club, that would be liable. on a further note teh informations here and i the article are not univocal about teh kind of parachutes, the article mentions only sports kinds, here in the discussionw e see people completely convinced it concerned different kinds. it annoy's me that succesfull assasination is brought as a great msytery, buttaht is mt personal opinion, posing that a sportsclub would not know a working from a demonstration model parachute however is verifiably untrue. at best it was a conscious test to see if he would notice, apparenty based on indications he might not, (because for all we know he might blow up a plane in response to his attempted murder.)
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Himmelsbach stating on television that he(Ted Mayfield) would have "been a logical suspect" except for the fact that he held steadfast to a profile that was inaccurate and he eliminated him? Are you disputing that he (Ted Mayfield) was even mentioned, as stated in the Wiki section, in Himmelsbach's book "Norjack: The investigation of DB Cooper"? Himmelsbach also stated that the only reason he eliminated him is that Teddy called the FBI the night of the heist, and he feels that he (Ralph Himmelsbach) is Ted's alibi. Are you disputing the investigative effort put forth by the team of Inside Edition in with Deborah Norville? Do you know anything about this case?
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two freelance investigators whose work with Myers culminates 7 years of investigation also has an interview on Steven Rinehart's program. WRT Duane Weber, he was never considered a suspect by the FBI. Even after they were approached they dropped the case on Duane because there is absolutely no evidence except stories from the Widow. Anyone whose name was called in to the FBI (And Teddy's was called in 12 times) has a suspect card. Duane Weber can be placed in or around Atlanta at the time of the crime. His only claim in the Cooper case is that he looks a little like one of two sketches that have been deemed worthless by the Flight Attendants.
1459:" In 1988 Unsolved Mysteries aired a piece about the search for D.B. Cooper. The episode included an interview with Florence Schaffner; one of the flight attendants aboard flight 305, and an eye witness to D.B. Cooper. Florence stated that the widely circulated composite sketch "never really looked like Cooper". Many feel this is one of the reasons the case was never solved. At the request of Unsolved Mysteries Florence worked with Mahlon Coleman a forensic artist from the L.A. County Sheriff's office, and a new sketch was created. Upon completion Florence examined the final draft and exclaimed "yeah...that's it". 381:
the Cooper Vane, which really doesn't have much to do with D.B. Cooper vanishing or efforts to find him. So I took that paragraph out of the "Vanished" section and basically modified it and installed it under the section the page already has on the Cooper Vane. I thought that would make more sense. Furthermore, I think the "Vanished" section is missing a few details about the other major clue, that being the placard off the back of the plane that was found in 1978. If anybody could add anything on that, I think it would help the page a lot.
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no record or evidence he was ever in Oregon or Washington. It should be noted that List settled in Denver, CO and assumed a new name. List became a fry cook, lived in a trailer park, and showed no signs of a man who came into money. The description makes it sound like List used the 200k to pay off his debts. That never happened. There is no source that List even owed 200k, which in 1971, was close to 10-20 times the average salary in the United States, or in 2007 dollars, almost $ 800,000 - $ 1,000,000.
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interesting, either way...Again, I hate flaky (conspiracy) theories, but it seems implausible to me he would try that stunt without "a plan" as my Dad said long ago. Somehow it smacks of military training. I learned to Scuba dive several yrs ago (at age 40) and sky dived as well (only twice !) and both instructors made mention of how these "sports" had their antecedents in military training and had only beocme popular as 'recreation' in the 80s...food for thought...
335:, so presumably a comparable number are taken out of circulation each day (I believe they are gathered from banks and burned or otherwise destroyed). I'm sure the FBI would have been looking at bills returned to banks in the area for a while, but if Cooper used some other source of cash for long enough to get out of the area and let the trail cool, it would probably be very, very hard to spot one of the bills, particularly with 1970's technology. 31: 3032:, it sounds like a sample of the bills were kept by the FBI as evidence; some were destroyed in the process of physically separating them; and of what was left, half went to the insurance company who underwrote NWA (who provided the ransom), and half went to the finder. I'm guessing that under applicable law there must be some 50/50 arrangement for finders of such a thing; $ 2860 is just a little under half of the $ 5880 found. 1577:
Cooper. It ended up being a fraud, and cost an editor his job. On the other hand, 60 minutes, 20/20, etc. can all have some great investigative work. Was this story on a regular network news program, like an affiliate? I agree Inside Edition can be a tabloid, but, the guy did mention on the show that he knew he would be a likely suspect, given his criminal history. So, isn't he in a way, admitting he is a suspect?
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remained in the open position the duration of the flight to Reno. I believe the stairs most likely varied between the 50% and 75% closed position, during the flight. Without Cooper's weight, I believe the stairs would most likely be drawn up toward the fuelsage due to the aerodynamic forces as the wind passed underneath the fuelsage as the jet travled at 170 knots. I've seen the FBI re-enactment, which backs this up.
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considered him a suspect, at least not seriously. If people wanted to include a section with him in the article, I would not have a problem with it. At this point the article's "Recent Development" section has plenty on Galen Cook's suspect; while I'm pretty sure Cook's suspect has legitimate interest from the FBI, there have been few sources about it. However, there could be more starting this week.
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the hijacking, and had no record, no military experience, and simply resembled one of the sketches of Cooper. I don't even remember his name associated with this case, but I am open to his name staying on the board. It's simply a "favorites" list. In addition, none of the suspects will be perfect, or the case would not be unsolved. We just need to make sure the suspects are valid, and referenced.
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does it prove that he checked out a book on Dan Cooper if our possibilities are 1. He was Dan Cooper or 2. He was pretending to be (and presumably obsessed with, or at least greatly interested in) Dan Cooper. Either way, it's unsurprising that his handwritting would turn up in a library book on Cooper, so why would a handwriting match in a library book suggest the former but not the latter? --
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Portland), but was eliminated a major suspect for various reasons (erroneously and for flimsy reasons -- based on the physical descriptions given by the witnesses -- in Dvorak's opinion). In the TV shows, the lead FBI agent says something along the lines of "his name popped up several times". We can't know what the FBI currently thinks about Mayfield, they can't disclose any info like that.
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wants us to believe the money was never spent. However, even they have admitted they have no proof the twenties never made it into circulation, just as there is no proof Cooper died during the jump. IF Cooper did make it, I think he waited six months, and simply exchanged the twenties for "clean" twenties in another city, where the Cooper case was only a blip on the news.
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Cooper ransom, before being destroyed. Such an endeavor would be cost prohibitive given the volume of dollars in our money supply. Given this, it is possible, the twenties were simply exchanged in the economy, either in the United States, Mexico, or anywhere in the world. The FBI readily admits that finding any of the bills in circulation would be a needle in a haystack.
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as there are still news items coming out on the found chute. As stated above, eventually, if things continue to die down and no new major developments are announced, I think at some point it will be advisable to take any mention of the found parachute out of the lead, as it will have been relegated to just another dead end (out of many, many) in the case's history.
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do know, that other sources, mention Duane served time at McNeill Island, which is in Seattle, and not too far from Seattle airport. ARe the cities confused here? What years did Duane serve time in Portland, or at McNeill? Where are the references? That is why references are so important to the integrity of this articles.
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like Cooper". Many feel this is one of the reasons the case was never solved. At the request of Unsolved Mysteries Florence worked with Mahlon Coleman a forensic artist from the L.A. County Sheriff's office, and a new sketch was created. Upon completion Florence examined the final draft and exclaimed "yeah...that's it".
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The google hits search says that it isnt credible enough(google crawls and updates its search results weekly). As far as the FBI not commenting: if they are not going to say anything about Ted, why include it? Again, I asked for sources, yet got pointed to an Unsolved Mysteries episode that has nothing to do with Ted.
3672:, it says, "An exact landing point was difficult to determine, as the plane was being battered by 200 mile per hour (322 km/h) winds at the time of Cooper's jump." I kind of did a double-take at this sentence, as those kind of winds are very highly unlikely at that altitude. While the sentence isn't inaccurate, what 1232:
removed this section before. There needs to be a credible source that has good evidence of him being a possible suspect. A Google search for "Ted Mayfield" finds very few, if any hits about the name being related to this case. On the other hand, a search for "Duane Weber", an actual suspect, returns many hits.
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fiction? Call me skeptic, but, once a suspect appears, and is conveniently dead, it does make me wonder. He can't defend himself, nor can he give a detailed account of his actions. ARe we risking ruining his reputation? What about his family? I guess as long as we say he is "only" a suspect, we are okay.
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We could say "about 200 miles per hour." Estimates of the exact speed of the plane at the time of the jump range from 160 mph to 200 mph. Known speeds and directions of the winds in the area at the time of the jump remain ambiguous - not to mention quite varying at different altitudes - and a subject
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I'm ok with you doing that, but be careful. There are some theories that deal with Woodland. Galen Cook - the attorney behind the effort to unlock information on suspect Bill Gossett - has stated that there is controversy as to what side of I-5 the flight was on. If it was on the west side of I-5, it
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I was just reading through this discussion again and wanted to clarify something. There is no proven "fact that Cooper failed to check his parachutes before jumping." The only fact that we have in this regard is that two of the four parachutes were left on board, and of those two, one of them was not
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Excellent; thanks for that info...I was worried I'd mis-remembered it completely. I suspect the FBI suspicion is what Dad was talking about (it was a long time ago). Of course, it all came fom the mainstream news media, not inside info:)....Anyway, I haven't seen such a reference since, so I guess we
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I move to have this added as well. The similarities are uncanny and there is no more reason to have Weber or Christiansen or anyone else than this, except possibly the name of the person. Is this photo technically public domain? Having it on the Cooper page might help to identify the man pictured, if
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So, I agree with both. If we can get some type of episode number, air date, etc, I don't see why this guy shouldn't be included. A written article would be nice, but not crucial. IMO, List is the most marginable on the suspect list, since he lived in New Jersey, and was an accountant at the time of
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sources for the statements. You can't just say "per an interview on KOIN" because there is no way to verify that without more information. Like an episode number, a transcript etc, same goes with "an episode of Inside Edition". Even then, isn't Inside Edition a tabloid? Is it a verifiable source?
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There seems to be a lot of original research in this article, as several IP's keep adding information the speculates whether Ted was most qualified for the hijacking. I believe that there could have been more people in the U.S. at that time who were better then Ted at skydiving. However, D.B. Cooper
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The airstairs are gravity operated. A lever, situated at the top of the aft stairs, is pulled to unlock the stairs once the plane safely comes to a landing. Then, the weight of the stewardess or passengers will lower the aft stairs to within about 9 inches of the ground. The aft stairs never touch
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As for the prison reference. Why does it matter if Duane was housed at a Portland prison near the Portland airport? What does this have to do with him being Cooper? Is every prisoner now a suspect? Which prison? I looked up on the net, and there is no prison that I could find near the airport? I
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All it says at the moment is he was know as "DB" because of an error. I think this entry deserves more elaboration. The hand written name on his ticket is Dan Cooper. Did he have to give ID (which would go someway to proving that was his name)? Where exactly did the middle "B" come from- Again, is it
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By the way, I went ahead and made some changes in the "Vanished" section, basically adding a bunch of stuff on the efforts to trace the bills from the FBI's website. I hope nobody minds, but I also went ahead and made another change. In the "Vanished" section, there was a whole paragraph dealing with
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Of course, there is no proof any of the $ 194,000 ever made it into circulation. In order for a bill to have been discovered, somebody, a teller, a bank official, or a suspicious citizen, would have to examine each and every twenty they receive, and compare it to the ransom list. Of course, the FBI
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You're correct. The FBI, at one point, suspected that Cooper had some sort of military background. However, I have a feeling that they dismissed this theory for some reason (perhaps it was due to the fact that Cooper failed to check his parachutes before jumping). If he had a military background, he
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This may sound crazy, but I distinctly recall some news talk (but admittedly dimly remembered details) in the early 1980s, of Cooper possibly being a former Force Recon Marine. The reason this sticks in my mind is my dad (he was ex-US Army SF) talking about it after the news blurb and remarking that
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Ingram was the 8-year-old boy who found some of the ransom money in 1980. The article states: "In 2007, Ingram announced that he planned to auction off the few bills that he still maintains in a bank vault." Are you telling me that the FBI does not seize the evidence of a crime --- and an unsolved
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Yes, I think some of us noticed. It was just a matter of figuring out the best way to clarify the situation. I tried to clean up the "recent developments" section in light of the announcement that the chute was not Cooper's. Nishkid, what do you think of the lead as it is? I think it's fine for now,
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This is a really interesting development. I don't know if anyone got to hear the coasttocoast radio show from Feb. 23, 2008, but attorney Galen Cook, who is investigating this suspect, had some great stuff. What was really interesting is that a caller got on and argued with Cook, saying that the man
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If this was what happened here, this is a pretty loose definition of "all the way to the Supreme Court." "All the way to the Supreme Court" usually is cited to show a case was important, because the Supreme Court doesn't usually get involved, and grants very few petitions. But if all we're talking
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What does the "supposedly" and "reportedly" refer to? I mean, McCoy actually and truly died in this incident, right? How can his death be supposed? This isn't someone lost after jumping out of a plane, this is a shooting! So how is it "reportedly" that O'Hara fired back? How about this wording:
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What are reputable "sources"? Print articles from magazines looking to pick up the latest story? Are you discounting the 7 year collaborative Zero-based investigative effort of two very well educated men? Why on earth do you not consider the lead FBI investigator for the Cooper Case, One Ralph
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Ted Mayfield has been considered a suspect by many people ever since the day of the hijacking. Many people, including amateur detectives, have done their own investigations and have thought that he presented a striking match for the hijacker's profile. However, for various reasons, the FBI has never
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Did she "win" anything, like a court judgment, or did she simply receive some money in return for a cash settlement? The former would indicate that a neutral court found that the publisher couldn't back up the claim that McCoy was Cooper. But the latter ... a settlement rather than a judgment ... is
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I seem to remember a fiction movie about the hijacking. According to the movie (or was it a TV film?) there were no hijacker at all. The stewardesses acted like there was a man in the toilet and "forwarded" his demands: ransom, parachute, etc. All communication went through them, so nobody on ground
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As was noted below, the money was photocopied for a record of all the serial numbers. Though I haven't seen it in a few years, I clearly remember them talking about that when they recapped Cooper's story on Unsolved Mysteries. The found money was matched by serial number, but none of the remaining
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Anyone else find this section to be out of order and confusing? The first paragraph talks about the start of a hijacking and then talks about an eventual arrest: "his fingerprints on a magazine he read on the plane, which the FBI later used to make his positive identification" and then it jumps into
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The cited source has a passing reference saying that many people believe he parachuted out near Woodland, but the apparently lazy reporter didn't cite a source in turn (in addition to the weaselly worded term). The information later in that article doesn't mention Woodland and there's a great deal
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Very good points...One thing I want to ask is: is there a distinct difference between a "regular" parachute and a "reserve"? If so, was the dummy chute either? Point is, if both were regular chutes, and must be worn as such to be useful, then as you indicated he may have had some other use for the
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I believe the article used to explain that, after the FBI looked over the bills long enough and determined that they had all the info they needed (or could get, anyway), Ingram was allowed to keep a minority portion of the bills. I thought it was a good point to know. Who took it out of the article
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I think we can expect an official statement from the FBI very soon to declare that the parachute is not Cooper's. When that happens, I'd suggest taking any mention of it out of the lead - as it will have been proven to be no clue with any significance related to the case - and then relegate it to a
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have to conform to the common name? It doesn't make it any more convenient. A simple redirect, an explanation as is already provided and the use of the so-called (how I detest the term) "pipe trick" can maintain clarity and provide useful information. The "common" name of D. B. Cooper is not even a
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It also delves into the spectrum of listing suspects who are alive. While List is in prison, he is still technically alive. Given, this is simply a "favorites", and doesn't imply the guilt of a party, we need to be careful in listing suspects. Then again, anybody who was called into the FBI as a
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It has been noted that John List has denied he is DB Cooper. List was an accountant, with no priors, no record of skydiving, nor committing violent crimes, and was living in New Jersey in 1971. While List's wherabouts after his mass murder of his family in early November 1971, is unknown, we have
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I agree that giving us the dates, or the episode numbers would allow users to reference the articles. Are there any written stories about this guy? Not that written stories are always more valid than those on the air. I remember the Newsweek article from 1972, in which they had an exclusive with
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All I ever wanted was sources. Yet, all I get is the same answers. I will not work on this article anymore, as I have other things planned for the future. Just a few comments before I go: If Ted Mayfield is such a great new lead in this unsolved case, why has no major media outlet reported on this?
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This section could list 1,000 suspect, 100, 20, or 3, or some other amount. I think the bar has been lowered as if pertains to being a "good" suspect. With over a 1,000, many more suspects must have been good at one point. If a suspect was a good suspect back in 1998, he is either eliminated, or
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Errr, most convincing? Unless I'm missing something here, this is COMPLETELY unconvincing. He may have said "I'm Dan Cooper" before his death, but if he WASN'T Dan Cooper it's a pretty safe bet that he was interested in Dan Cooper and had done research on him at some point in time. What the hell
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For example, Cooper might take a road trip every month or so from his home base to a different area of the country. Every so often, stop in a town, buy a small item from this shop or that shop and get change at each place. Nothing unusual at all, but you could change a few grand that way over the
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If I may say so on behalf of everyone who has worked on it: thank you. This is a very difficult article to keep up with because so many details about the subject are imprecise, controversial, or flat-out unknown. Those of us who have studied the case for some time have tried to stay up to date and
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Absolutely: Great find Aboutmovies. I think it would be a great addition to this page, and this story, to include an excerpt explaining the indictment, and the possibility that Cooper could technically still be prosecuted. Of course, he would have to be alive, and the US Government would have to
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concerns (it would be adequate to say, for instance, that "many news specials have speculated on the identity of the hijacker, including" yadda yadda, without naming Mayfield specifically. Naming someone as a potential suspect in a crime is extremely serious, and we shouldn't do it without strong
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You can see a copy of Inside Edition episode on youtube.com, by searching for DB cooper. It aired on national TV. There were also 3 separate episodes about Ted Mayfield that appeared on KOIN TV, a Portland affiliate, which will appear on YouTube shortly and will be referenced. Dvorak one of the
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I deleted this section because for many reasons: 1.) It reads like a newspaper article and seems to contain original research. 2.) There are no sources 3.) This guy sounds like a small time crook and was probably never considered a likely suspect back then, if ever considered. 4.) Book plug? I've
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It is my belief, that accusing her of this act, is why she sued the authors. I have no knowledge if she received any funds from the author or publisher. I do know, that I've never heard any stories of Karen trying to sell any stories about her husband being DB Cooper. Considering she lived with
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My belief, based on research, is that McCoy's widow sued the authors because it was insinuated in the book, the REAl McCoy, that Karen stole money from Richard McCoy while he was on the run after escaping from prison in 1974. In the book, it implies that Karen met up with Richard, while he was an
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The British TV drama anthology series Tales of the Unexpected featured an episode called Hijack which was first broadcast on ITV on 26 December 1981 (Season 4, Episode 17). Elements of the Cooper case feature in it, though the action takes place over Europe. In the end it turns out to be a swindle
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Thanks, guys. Really appreciate your input. I have never seen a quote or statement by the FBI talking about how hard it would have been to find one of the notes back then. If we ever get one - or at least some information about tracking capabilities of U.S. currency in the early 1970s - I think it
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I'm not certain, but I suspect that they recorded the serial numbers of the bills they gave Cooper, or they gave him marked bills. I would be interested to hear whether this is the case, because if it is then the obvious follow-up question is if any other bills have been found in circulation. That
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says is, "No experienced parachutist would have jumped in the pitch-black night, in the rain, with a 200-mile-an-hour wind in his face, wearing loafers and a trench coat," which I assume implies that the 200 mph wind was basically the speed the plane was going (which jives well with his requested
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This area does need some work, but the information seems to me mostly reliable. I personally knew the contact and things really seem to add up. The suspects name is William Pratt Gossett, although he officially changed his name to Wolfgang later in life. This name has just been released on the
3310:, a new book on the case, released in February 2008, entitled "D.B. Cooper: Portrait of an American Hijacker". There is no mention of this book on the page, although all other full length book regarding Cooper are mentioned (there aren't many of them). Does anyone know anything about this book? - 3140:
Depends on whom you talk with. The FBI has generally concluded that Cooper most likely was not an experienced skydiver, but many investigators still think he was. Some still think that he had a military background of some sort, and he at the very least most certainly did have some knowledge about
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should summarise the article it links to (like a lede summarise the article it starts)." I've done that to this section to address that objection. Having done this, I have no pride of authorship here. As I was finishing up, it occurred to me that maybe the best approach would be to just delete
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suspect since 1971, or any person that the FBI investigated is technically a suspect. I think we have lowered the bar, and risk ruining reputations, of both the dead and alive. Unless, of course, we have the FBI making statements on the record regarding someone would have made a good suspect.
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In 1988 Unsolved Mysteries aired a piece about the search for D.B. Cooper. The episode included an interview with Florence Schaffner; one of the flight attendants aboard flight 305, and an eye witness to D.B. Cooper. Florence stated that the widely circulated composite sketch "never really looked
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Therefore, your illustration is excellent. Technically, Cooper could have jumped at any time from the time he was last heard from on the interphone at 8:05pm, until the jet landed at 11pm in Reno. I thinkt the most likely time, is 8:13pm, given the violent forces recorded by flight data and the
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Couldn't agree more Lode Runner: Did anyone do a handwriting or fingerprint match from the book to see if they matched Duane's? Why would a person who committed a crime, need to make notes? If they were there, wouldn't they have remembered the event? Isn't the book, the Gunther book, based on
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Someone has recently gone through and made a number of changes (some of which were mindless, not taking care if they affected links, and damaged the article) of "D.B." to "Dan" throughout this article, and then moved the page to match, with no prior discussion or attempt to gain consensus. I've
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What does being an "original" suspect have to do with a case that has been unsolved for 35 years? Why do you think it has been unsolved? Do you think that Duane Weber was an "original" suspect? His name would not have popped up on any search engine before 2000 when his widow come up with that
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Since I cannot directly ask all the various IP address already involved in this dispute, due to the fact that their are many different ones that all seem to be doing the same thing, I took it to RfC. The disputed mater at hand is whether or not the "Ted Mayfield" section of this article has met
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Regardless, I believe once deployed, Cooper leapt from the second or third stair from the bottom. Once he jumped, the aft stairs violently came up toward the fuelsage, because of the weight being released from the stairs (much like a diving board). Upon settling, it is my belief the aft stairs
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Great question. Especially considering she allegedly was an accomplice with McCoy on his hijacking which occurred in April of 1972. According to the book, Karen drove McCoy to the airport, called him at the airport, typed the directions used in the ransom, and lied to the FBI regarding McCoy's
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Can anyone confirm an EXACT location of where the $ 5,880 was found on the shore of the Columbia River? I've looked all over, and there seems to be confusion on this. The wikipedia article says "5 miles northwest of Vancouver, Washington," but the reference it lists makes no mention of that. 9.5
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I researched this on the web. Bills normally last about 1 1/2 to 2 years in circulation. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule. The old, worn out bills are replaced by new bills, by the Treasury on a daily basis. Back in the 70's, the twenties were not examined by hand, looking for the
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In the "Recent developments" section, it says: "...all details about the suspect, including his name, would be released in the Oregon newspaper, The Depoe Bay Beacon, on May 28, 2008." This date has clearly passed, so does anyone know if the newspaper article has been published? I couldn't find
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No, but can anyone place Ted there at the time? Is there ANY (good, credible) source that has evidence and says he had anything to do with the heist? Is there a good source that said he was? And if he was there, he might not have been the one to do it. Perhaps there shouldn't even be a suspects
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and Dvorak lays out a plausible case. But, no hard evidence (unless the FBI has some they aren't discloing). I don't know of any non-original sources other than the TV shows (Inside Edition, and KOIN TV (Oregon TV station)). Mayfield was an early suspect (since he was an expert skydiver in
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I just wanted to add: be wary of any claims about handwriting that matches D.B. Cooper's. There seem to be numerous claims out there that Weber's handwriting or McCoy's handwriting matched Cooper's, and yet such claims are - as far as we know - impossible. Attorney Galen Cook and others who are
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makes no real sense, the fbi would know if he checked the parachutes he left, that they deny this knowledge on it's own is food for thought.(they photographes each money bill, why not the chutes.. eg. )and a chute that has been checked by an amateur, or even professional, would look different,
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Finally, the current version of this article does not state whether Ted was ever thought by the FBI, or is thought this day, of being a very good suspect in the case. Is there a source that would have this information? I'm not here to completely get rid of suspects, but I will if they are not
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There's a whole section called suspects, which contains well-documented discussion of several men who might have been D.B. Cooper. Throwing in one sentence that mentions somebody by first name only doesn't add anything to this article at all. It looks like vandalism. If you do have something
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This sentimental journey from 1979. Is this an online encyclopedia, or is it stories? How about a plane ticket, a hotel ticket, an independent witness, an addres of where this happened, the exact month. I just get suspicious, when everything is "hearsay". There are other's, like List, who
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Yes, this is potentially an astounding find, one that could eventually lead to a total breakthrough in the case - and thus warrant an eventual revamping of much of the wikipedia article. I would advise contributors to beware of some of the information that is coming across in the latest news
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Yes, just to clarify, TJRC is correct. There is nothing "so special" about the number $ 2,860. If it seems somewhat random, that's because it is. It was difficult to determine the exact amount he was allowed to keep because, remember, that the bills were very badly deteriorated, some barely
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airplanes (based on his instructions to the pilots). Lead investigator Carr, among others, has stated his suspicions that Cooper possibly had been an aircraft crew member in the military but one who had little if any skydiving experience beyond seeing people skydive off military airplanes.
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Great info...Appreciate you posting that...of course, Cooper (or whoever he was) presumably grew up during the draft age, so some sort of military connection is not unreasonable. But it would take a specialist, as you allude to, to be able to use those skills for this kind of heist...Very
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Well, nevermind. I think it's safe in the article the way it reads. Most sources (even though most aren't particularly credible) do seem to say 5 miles downstream from Vancouver, and maps of the area seem to confirm that that's where the beach is. If anyone has any more specifics or clear
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needs to be renamed William Jefferson Blythe III. And "Dan Cooper" is every bit as much a pseudonym as "D.B. Cooper". Get with it, folks: the point of an encyclopedia is to make the subject accessible, not obscure. That's accomplished by using the name by which the subject is best known.
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I don't know if the regular editors want to see this added, but if Cooper is ever found, he can still face federal charges even though the statute of limitations would have normally run, since the government sought and was granted an indictment (without a real name) prior to the statute
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It’s possible, according to an article in the Oct. 29 edition of New York Magazine that postulates that the man who jumped from a hijacked airplane 36 years ago over southwest Washington with $ 200,000 survived and lived out his life in this East Pierce County community of Bonney Lake.
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Ted Mayfield, who in 1971 was a 36 year old Portland native, and former world champion skydiver, with an armed robbery conviction earlier in 1971, was phoned in as a Cooper suspect by at least a half a dozen people on the night of the hijacking, according to Ralph Himmelsbach's book,
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I went ahead and changed the lead a bit, as no new info has arisen on the found chute, hardly any new media articles have come out on it in the last month and a half. Furthermore, the lead was basically repeating detailed information given later in the "Recent Developments" section.
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Speculation aside, if that is the case then they should be able to figure out if any of those bills are in circulation now (checks for serial numbers at banks and whatnot). Even if he spent them overseas, they're bound to turn up sometime. Why is there no discussion of this?
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I thought I read somewhere that the airstairs were gravity operated, and after he jumped they stayed down until the plane landed. (It sounds logical, since they were not designed to deploy sky divers there was no need for a hydraulic system to retract the stairs in flight.)
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Regarding the section. It needs to be referenced, big time. It is based solely on a the accounts of his ex-wife. There are no independent sources, no third party confirmation of stories, etc. Who is this woman who worked with Duane? Is she a handwriting expert?
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Headlines that refer to him by name consistently use "D.B. Cooper." I can find dozens. I don't think you can find one that calls him "Dan Cooper" (although that will always be mentioned in the article). Look at the footnotes and external links on this article:
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The way it reads now, it sounds like the FBI allowed him to keep only 17 bills, doesn't it (even though, yes, as I understand it, that "17" is the number he was going to auction off)? According to various sources, they originally allowed him to keep $ 2,860 (143
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The description of his ironed shirt and mother-of-pearl pin are extremely specific--clearly a first hand account, why aren't they sourced? Actually none of what seem to be first-hand accounts of the flight attendant or other passengers have a link to any source.
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investigating the case have asserted that we don't know what D.B. Cooper's handwriting looks like. Yes - as Cook has stated - Cooper gave slips of paper to communicate with the flight attendants and pilots, but he also took every one of them back. --- 2-27-08
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dummy when on the ground...IT also occurs to me that he may have taken it purely for the purpose of confusion - in order to make the investigators think he was a nut who probably just killed himself through ignorance...I dunno. Its all a bit far out for me.
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Ted was the national skydiving champion in 1974. He is from Portland, and knows the area, and is ALSO a pilot and is familiar with the FAA and has site recognition of drop zones and the terrain from the air, which are all necessary to have pulled off this
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Yes, there are distinct differences between regular and reserve parachutes. As the article describes, in an general sense, many regular parachutes go on back and many reserve chutes go on in front (chest). The dummy chute in the Cooper case was a reserve
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It does report facts. It says that he is called D. B. Cooper by the public/media and that he called himself Dan Cooper on the airplane. This would be a great thing for anyone from the general public to read after they come to the D. B. Cooper page!
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It seems that someone has changed the main article to say that this suspect was mentioned on "The MJ Morning Show" in February of 2007, rather than Coast2Coast in February of 2008. Is this information correct or has someone tampered with the article?
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Having never read the book, I wouldn't know if the above is correct. However, I would still need a good source. Also, my main problem is that Ted was never really thought as an original suspect, and, as far as I know, still isn't by most people.
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The FBI profile of Cooper, was a man most likely with skydiving background, criminal history, knowledge of Northwest, possibly a pilot or extensive knowledge of aviation terms, and possible military background. List had none of the above.
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and reputable sources. On its own, I do not think that Inside Edition qualifies, nor do local stations who were merely following their lead... it should be simple to find better sources, if genuine reasons to list Mayfield here exist. --
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course of a few days. I'm sure there are plenty of other, better ways to launder the money. Bottom line, if they didn't turn up any of the bills soon after the incident, and probably close to it, they probably missed their chance. -
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Look for the characteristic shape of the creek with an "L" shaped bend just south of the site. (The aerial photo is slightly angled with top west of north.) Also note it is called Tina Bar, not Tena, as can be seen in this photo:
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BTW, the Inside Edition segment's original airdate was 5/21/2007. I don't know if celebrity entertainment programs meet Knowledge's quality standards for sources though :) I don't know when the KOIN segments first aired. --
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Why would they let him keep $ 2,860 - what is so special about that number? Also, did he spend any of it - I would imagine the bills would be worth more than there face value (hence his auctioning off of his remaining bills)? -
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In an interview documentary made some 20 years later 2 of the stewardesses stated in interview that the picture never looked like the hijacker. Don't know much about it but they would have been trained to observe and are maybe
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All known suspects in the case are deceased, and in the case of the most recent suspect (also deceased), his family contributed the bulk of the evidence so they would also be unlikely to bring a suit against the information.
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there simply isn't enough evidence to continue the investigation. I am open to keeping Duane on the suspect list, but, we have lowered the bar, and this may make it hard to turn away the next dead suspect from this list.
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him during the DB Cooper hijacking, it does make me wonder if McCoy is a legitimate suspect. Of course, his name should remain on the board. But, I do wonder why she hasn't cashed in, if her husband was in fact Cooper
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The Inside Edition segment's original airdate was 5/21/2007. I don't know if celebrity entertainment programs meet Knowledge's quality standards for sources though :) I don't know when the KOIN segments first aired. --
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I had to read half-way through the main story just to get an answer to the question why he became known as D. B. I propose a stand-alone section that summarizes this (i.e. 1) his ticket 2) the press miscommunication).
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Plus, I noticed original photo's. I'm willing to let it slide, but, I do believe it is against Wiki policy to have original photo's as part of an exhibit. Newspaper, with permission, or public domain are ok as well.
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was denied. My guess is that McCoy petitioned (which is a way of asking a court to hear your case, even though the court is not required to do so), and SCOTUS turned down the petition, i.e., it never heard the case.
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I'm striking the line. Unless someone can actually track down a Supreme Court case on this, let's leave it out. The URL cited above is probably in error, and there's no good reason for wikipedia to replicate that.
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great change from Dan Cooper. Knowledge was founded on the premise that the people ought to have a means of rectifying inaccuracies. Moreover, the use of D. B. Cooper is an insult to the innocent former suspect. --
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Court records in Oregon show various convictions, including the previously mentioned armed robbery just prior to the D. B. Cooper heist, transportation of a stolen plane across state lines, and Criminal Negligent
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I added information to the article regarding evidence newly released by the FBI. This story and video can be used as a source for other information already in the article, like the clothes he was wearing, etc.
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As stated, the source is the 1988 Unsolved Mysteries episode. The quotes come right from the episode which has been re-run on television for many years, and seen by many people. The sketch comes from the same
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identifiable, and with many broken up into tiny bits and pieces. Hence, it's as good of an estimate as could be made. Recent attempts have been made to clarify this point in a succinct way in the article.
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Also, there is no statute of limitations on tax evasion. The IRS taxes illegal and legal income the same. His back taxes would now far exceed any amount he got away with (if he got away with anything).
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Good question: I fixed the time, to make it correct. Cooper hijacked the plane at 2:58pm Pacific Time, or 14:58pm if you prefer military time. All other times are in pacific, where the crime occurred.
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ones that were used when the bills were collected and given to Cooper? If they were - dispite the concern over deterioration - then it is inconclusive if Cooper is alive. If however they are for instance
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The lead of this article explains that the hijacker only called himself "Dan Cooper." Further on we read that he received the appellation "D.B. Cooper" as the result of a miscommunication to the press.
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Wow, even the "In popular culture" doesn't suck... usually those things are just a painfully trivial hodgepodge of jokes in cartoons and sitcoms that happened to mention the subject of the article.
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But knowing this guy, he was smart and with a suspected military background, he would have known not to start spending the cash until after several years and in places like grocery stores far away.
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this mass-renaming. The hijacker is known as "D.B. Cooper," not "Dan Cooper." Yes, the name "D.B. Cooper" arises from a reporter error. So what? The name "Dan Cooper" is no more accurate; it is
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Myers and Dvorak only went public on national TV with the story a few months ago,whereas Jo Weber, Duane's Widow, broke her story almost 8 years ago. That would explain why his name gets more hits.
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Yeah and do you see anyone else listed as a suspect? Weber and the others listed after Ted in this article seem to have evidence and have long been considered the likely ones to carry out the crime.
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I still need a GOOD source. I've never heard of Ted, and I'm going to want good information about him if i was reading this article from the perspective of someone doing research on this case.
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What's the significance of stating that the Kansas City bar opens at 6am on Saturday? At first I thought that the hijacking occurred at 6am on a Saturday, but it was at 4:35pm on a Wednesday.
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I couldn't find it in any of the previous versions of the article, so I figure I read that in one of the references I used. I'll make a note of the circumstances to clarify this matter.
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Someone who didn't bother to read the rest of the article has caused the Charles Westmorland/DB Cooper story arc in Fox's Prison Break to be mentioned twice in the TV/Radio/Film section.
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knew the real situation. When they got everyhing, they simply threw out the parachute and kept the money. I think this theory is worth to mention, as it's as good as all the others. ;-)
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citable sources outside those specials can be found, I would recommend that the entire section be pared down to a single paragraph or two, and Ted Mayfield's name possibly omitted on
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New York magazine has a new article that makes a compelling case for Kenneth Christiansen being the real D.B. Cooper. We will probably want to incorporate this into the WP write-up.
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Unfortunately, someone has taken the reverting too far: the article was changed to say "a man traveling under the name D.B. Cooper". Not true. He was traveling as "Dan Cooper". —
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FAA was created in 1958 according to Wiki article, So how was the FAA in 1971 a newly formed agency? Newly is a relatively subjective word, and I've come to expect better on Wiki.
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remove specific cite tags. Note that a handful of news specials are not adequate to source the kind of language currently used in the section; if that's all there is to this, and
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Of course he's alive. How else would he have posted on the discussion section of his own Knowledge article at 02:36 27 September 2007? Quit kidding with us, you know you're him.
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is this a credible source or not? and if it is, is there a link to somewhere on their site that doesnt have a video; a typed print story, maybe? Thanks 15:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
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the ground in the extended position. I believe this is on purpose, to prevent the jet from dragging on the tarmac if the stairs will not re-deploy, and leave the jet stranded.
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I recently saw a TV show that featured a man near Portland, Oregon being accused of being D. B. Cooper. The man had a matching background, but is proven by the FBI as being
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Cook, in accordance with the family's wishes, has stated that the suspect had night jumping experience as a military paratrooper, and coincidently, had a brother named Dan,
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Hmm...so I did. I was looking for revisions in "Vanished without a trace" section, not in the lead. I will now add this back into the article in the "Vanished..." section.
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Is that the preferred Wiki-way for these articles because I have seen "in popular culture" sections to articles before? I've just put a merge query on the talk page of the
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If D.B. Cooper is to be renamed "Dan Cooper" on the basis of the airline booking, then some other wikipedia articles will also require similar remediation. The article
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I'm deleting the line "An appeal went all the way to the Supreme Court." There is no case from the US Supreme Court on this. The only source for this I could find is
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wikipedia standards, and, more specifically, is it notable to mention.(Please see my comments above and the articles history page). Thanks 08:36, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
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According to an interview with the pilot which appear on an A&E Networks production called "History Channel - Perfect Crimes? Leopold & Loeb - D. B. Cooper"
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The "supposedly" part covers the alleged nature of McCoy's actions to me, we don't need the "Other witnesses dispute this claim" weaseling without any references.
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resemble the Cooper sketch. We need more. Let's place Duane living in Oregon or Washington. I'm assuming he lived in the area. Doesn't anyone know for certain?
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Nishkid64, according to the discussion that you had in nominating this as a feature article back on March 15, there's a part in the discussion that goes like this:
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I've been trying to think of a better wording for this sentence that is more accurate and less misleading, but I've been drawing a blank. Anyone have any ideas?
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I agree. I added a bit about how he actually did escape, as mentioned in his main article. Not perfect, but better. Glad I am not the only one who was confused.
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the stairwell bounced back up and stayed at an almost closed position after he jumped. I guess it was manulally closed after that. Still the animation is cute.
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http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/mm?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=tena+bar&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=45.713731,-122.759256&spn=0.016271,0.026093&z=15
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crime, at that --- but that they just let Ingram keep the money? That makes no sense. Am I missing something here? Can someone please explain? Thanks. (
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Most of the images on this page have any source information. There's the obvious FBI one, but at the moment the rest of them can be speedied within a week.
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It is still an interesting side story that does require clairification. If anything you should refer to him simply as "Cooper" once establising this fact.
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Supposedly, McCoy shot at the FBI agents and agent Nicholas O'Hara reportedly fired back with a shotgun, killing him. Other witnesses dispute this claim.
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Seems like one of the experts doesn't think it belonged to Cooper. However, the FBI is still investigating, so I'll wait for an official press release.
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escapee, and robbing banks, and that Karen allegedly stole some of the money from a bank job from the car Richard was using during his time on the run.
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notable enough to be mentioned; there were probably many other people who were suspected of this crime when it happened; and they are not mentioned.
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You'd think after thirty years he would come out of the closet but with a lot of ppl telling the FBI that they are d.b cooper who is going to know.
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I realize this happens again and again--I guess no one gives a flying fig about credibility? Or are we counting on people to be generally gullible?
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Agree with your idea. Hope you don't mind, but, I put the new terminology into the text. I think it is much more concise, and less confusing.
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just thought i'd give credit to all the editors who've worked on this article - one of the best FAs i've read in ages. congratulations! :O)
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I noticed the link to Northwest Orient Airlines goes to the Northwest Airlines article via a re-direct page. Isn't a direct link better?
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Not to get hypertechnical, but this statement is an oxymoron. One gets to the Supreme Court either by appeal or by petition (petition for
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story. Can anyone show me ANY evidence that Duane Weber had anything to do with the Cooper heist? Can anyone place him in Portland in 71?
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Hasn't anyone noticed? The parachute is "pooh-poohed" at the top of the article, but further on, it is hinted that it is the real thing?
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libel in the article to force D.B. Cooper to emerge and sue Knowledge, so the FBI can arrest him. In other words, he's making a joke. --
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The FBI does not publicly comment on current or "open" investigations. If Ted were a suspect we wouldn't know until he is in bracelets.
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But surely the Depoe Bay 'evidence' is irrelevant, given the information in the lead. Can we clarify this somehow, or just remove it?
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the hijacker's actual name. Regardless or the origin of the label, the world knows this guy as "D.B. Cooper," and not "Dan Cooper."
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Can anyone show me ANY evidence that Duane Weber had anything to do with the Cooper heist? Can anyone place him in Portland in 71? '
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Even after they were approached they dropped the case on Duane because there is absolutely no evidence except stories from the Widow.
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Conspiracy stories aside (smile), has anyone else heard Cooper was some sort of Marine commando - and is there any way to confirm??
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It's pretty easy to make something up on wikipedia and edit it in a way to get what you want. There needs to be a source for this."
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The hijacker actually called himself Dan Cooper; a law officer mistakenly described him to the press as "D.B." and the name stuck...
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wasn't far from Woodland. I believe the Crime Library article on the internet also briefly discusses a theory mentioning Woodland.
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It's pretty easy to make something up on wikipedia and edit it in a way to get what you want. There needs to be a source for this.
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However logic alone doesn't dictate accuracy, I also made a version where the door closes after the jump in case this was wrong.
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Why would he come out? To be sent to jail? Hijacking a plane is pretty serious, they're not going to just forget about that.
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Are you asserting that his name was actually Dan Cooper? Or that there is an incorrect statement of fact in the article?
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I think it should be mentioned what $ 200,000 would be equivalent to today, when adjusted for inflation. According to the
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He lives on in his name and his myth. We will never find him, he cannot be found, not because he is dead, because he is--
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Could we just say "...as the plane was flying at a speed of 200 mile per hour (322 km/h) at the time of Cooper's jump"?
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The widow of Richard McCoy, Karen Burns McCoy, reached a legal settlement with the book's co-authors and its publisher.
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keep the information fresh and accurate while also accounting for the full scope of arguments, theories, debates, etc.
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about here is a denied petition, that's just some guy asking for something, and no indication of importance at all.
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to the "See Also" section. I have no objection to having my little edit yanked in favor of this approach instead.
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The article states his "real" name but, as far as I know, that's not correct. Answers.com seems to back me up with:
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Apparantly a P.I. with a personal intrest in the case has been researching it. around thanksgiving he appeared on "
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However, the FBI secured a "John Doe" indicament - just so 'Cooper' could not wait out the statute of limitations.
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I dont' believe this is why she sued. Nor, do I believe it is because of the accusation of McCoy being Cooper.
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I tried to cover this in the lead. Hopefully, this should make it easier for those looking for a quick answer.
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website. This section needs to be cleaned up and I propose that it should be moved to the list of suspects. --
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That D.B. thing is indicative of the quality of the source and the whole section actually should be removed.
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That's a typo from an unofficial source. It IS called "Tena Bar" or sometimes "Tena's Bar." Good work, though.
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meaningful to add to this article, please expand it beyond simply giving us the name "Geoff from the SELOC."
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prove their case. I believe he was indicted under "absentia", aka, a "John Doe" indictment. Excellent find.
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Removed. I didn't even notice that sentence. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 23:42, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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McCoy supposedly shot at the FBI agents, and agent Nicholas O'Hara fired back with a shotgun, killing him.
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Sorry, now I see it is mentioned on the main page also (TV, Film and Radio section, Tales of Unexpected).
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So was the money found in the Washington river definitely from the hijacking? If so, how do they know?
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Daniel Dvorak and Matthew Myers say that the most likely suspect was eliminated erroneously by the FBI.
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For some reason the referenced section has been removed from the main page. Could anybody explain why?
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anything. Either way it is noteworthy as having been discussed on a nationally syndicated talk show.
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is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under
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Someone has gone through the article and sprinkled profanities in the text of several paragraphs.
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Anyone whose name was called in to the FBI (And Teddy's was called in 12 times) has a suspect card.
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Bills are usually taken back out of circulation and destroyed fairly quickly. According to the
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Ok, and what was it? And why? These seem like pretty important points that need to be stated.
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Still further, in reporting speculation about a possible suspect, the article tells us this:
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was hijacked and crashed in what are, if anything, more mysterious circumstances than this.
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would be a good clue as to whether or not Cooper survived the ordeal and spent the money. -
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Actually, at the time the statute of limitations on aircraft hijacking was only 5 years. —
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section. As Ive said before, i wont question this non-sourced section anymore. Good day.
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are mentioned holding the found bills. Has anyone checked if these rubber bands are the
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This is possibly the same topic raised above in the '38. Another new suspect' section.
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New York Magazine article on Ken Christiansen as D B Cooper suspect (actually entitled
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Hmm, I do recall that bit of info being in the article. I'll see what happened to it.
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miles northwest of Vancouver is said on this site (which is not a creditable source):
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Just came across this headline, not sure if it warrants an addition to the article:
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Im pretty sure hes alive mate. He might be living next door to you. Who knows? :D
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But... How did opening the airstairs in flight not cause a violent decompression??
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of doubt, so these "many people" shouldn't be cited right at the top, certainly.
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Using the 0.6853 currency exchange rate, the $ 200,000 is valued at €711,263.90.
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Excellent job with the illustration. Thanks for the great addition to the site.
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as to why its use in Knowledge articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the
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Much of Dvorak and Myers' work is documented in these two web forum threads:
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Radio interviews about D.B. Cooper's identity with major authors (links to "
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It would certainly explain why we never see them in the same room together.
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In any case, the section still remains almost totally uncited. Please do
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why no rumors allowed? (Unsigned comment by 62.3.74.85 21 December 2006)
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an investigation being started on him. Needs to be reworded IMO.
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money has ever turned up in circulation (as of the early c. 1990).
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Also, I think it was this Florida guy.....too many coincidences.
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which will appear on YouTube shortly and will be referenced.
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most of the images on this page have any source information.
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whereabouts on the day of the hijacking in April 1972.
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Explanation added. Hope that answers your questions.
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Can anyone else back that up or find a better cite?
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the entry to point out that this is a psuedonym. --
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