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He was the 2nd DPM, not the 2nd and 6th. We don't use US Presidential numbering for office-holders in
Australia, which is why Prime Ministers who had more than one term separated by a period out of office are given one number only. There's no reason why the practice would differ for Deputy Prime
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Anthony was referring to his father, Larry and said "my father was a country member". What is true (I was there) was that when Whitlam appointed Lionel Murphy to the high court Anthony interjected with "You have made a prostitute of the Law!". Whitlam answered; "I don't know
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How does one ‘shut down’ a strike? If an industry had already shut down because the workers were on strike, what did
Anthony propose to do? Declare the strike illegal? And if an issue ‘had to be resolved’ isn’t that the reason for the strike in the first place?
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Anthony was an urban legend, it would be good to mention that debunking in this article; failing such a RS, I don't think we should mention it here. So I guess we're done here. Thanks everyone.
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Versions of that joke go back to the 1960s or earlier, with various real politicians cast in the lead roles. I've seen a version set in the 1960s with a rural backbencher (not Doug
Anthony, nor his father) and
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So the joke is an urban legend, but it could well be based on a real incident. There are a few biographies of
Australian politicians which might mention it, all too old to appear on the Internet.
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for the original incident and/or the urban legend, we should definitely mention it in
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Prodding a Deputy PM... that comes close to one of the most bizarre things i've ever seen on wikipedia. It will not happen.
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I've added two sources (while I put in four three are from the same site on the ABC) which should keep the Prod at bay!
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