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to one particular modern guru. Note that the cited reference is not on the subject of darshana but on Meher Baba. There is no indication of why Meher Baba's boilerplate merits almost as much text here as, say, all of Mahayana Buddhist teachings.
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in high-quality English-language sources, not Sanskrit. My impression is that the nominator may be pushing some sort of language/ethnicity agenda, as previously suggested in the ongoing RM at
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but am also okay keeping it the same for now based on the ngram results. The reason that I wouldn't be opposed to the move is because the word darshana
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Why does this article include “Akshar-Purushottam Darshan” as a traditional/orthodox school of Indian philosophy? That is utter and complete nonsense.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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maybe i am missing something here, but why is the only major paragraph in this article about adoring feet?
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in the article text, I split this article's bibliography into two sections: (1)
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Hi, I have just added Darsana in the view of Vastu shastra and Bhagavad gita.
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in English, Hindi, and Marathi as well. Also per Amakuru. —usernamekiran
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The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Hinduism p. 173 by James G. Lochtefeld,
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Encyclopedia of Hinduism p. 119 by Constance A. Jones and James D. Ryan
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contesting move please. The proposed name is clearly not the
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On 21 September 2022, it was proposed that this article be
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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On 11 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be
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Six, not seven, orthodox schools of Indian philosophy
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