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A 2014 TV programme on Devils'Island proved that there were many more prisons here than ever admitted to by the authorities. Maps showing the location of a score or more were discovered in the main prison camp. The French had a reputation for extreme cruelty when it came to sentencing, far worse than
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Hi! It is not exactly true that French government stopped sending prisoners after 1938 in this prison, as political opponents to the French collaborators of Nazis were sent there, like my grandfather Paul VALENTINO (1902 - 1988). He was tortured there and tried to escape unsuccessfully. He stayed
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I suggested that the US bury the hatchet with France on a possible purchase of the island if they still own it-which is doubtful.The island for incarceration hasn't been used since 1946--but more intriguing to me is what does anyone who lays claim to this tropical island use it for now?I haven't
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I looked up the subject 'Devil's Island'due to a suggestion by a fellow poster on a message board who thought a prison island for sexual predators would be beneficial.It would be more accurate to say that she mused on this possibility in moments of exasperation in how the legal system handles or
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I recently seen a Documentary on Devils Island and they said there was another escapee who made his way to America and fought in the Civil War he was also a member of the 7th Calvary his name sounded like "Durodeo" does any body else know of him .I think his Autobiography would make an exciting
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article says that he got smallpox while a prisoner there. Now he either had really bad luck and got smallpox twice and had the good fortune not to die either time or only one of these articles is correct. I have put this comment in the talk page for each of those articles for someone to fix.
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I think he was just talking about the island. As far as I know it's still owned by the state, and there is indeed some tourist activity to visit the ruins of the prison. When rockets are launched from Kourou, the islands have to be evacuated as they're directly under the path of launches.
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has drawn my attention to some unfinished business: The interwiki link here goes to the French WP article on the island (which should be linked from Devil's Island (Kourou)), while this one (on the whole penal colony) should link to the fr article on the whole colony
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I dispute the sentence "the inmates were everything from political prisoners (such as anarchist Clément Duval)". Clément Duval was condemned for theft, arson and for stabbing a policeman during his arrest, cf.
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This article strikes me as a bit of a mish-mash. It seems to be about both the island off the coast of French Guiana, which served as a political prison, and about the French penal colony in Fr. Guiana as a
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I'm not well versed enough in the subject to do this myself, but "Devil's Island" needs incorporating back into the lead section, as the article now only mentions the famous name a small handful of times.
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were little more than politicos. There is still much of interest to research on 19th and early 20th century justice but you will need a strong stomach to do it. (And don't forget the lepper colonies)!
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I don't think "Cayenne's Prison" sounds correct for the English name. That sounds a bit informal. "Cayenne Prison" or keeping the French "Bagne de Cayenne" would be more proper, I would think.
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What the hell are you people talking about ? French Guiana is one of France's overseas department. Hundreds of thousands live there and it is certainly not for sale. Ever heard of Ariane Space ?
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Second, this article is about more than just the prison on Devil's Island itself, it covers the whole Cayenne penal colony: "Devil's Island" is just a
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about 2 years before being released. You may have a look to official website of French government about Valentino, former deputy of Guadeloupe:
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Third, the current layout reflects the layout on the French WP (who ought to know): "Devil's Island (Kourou)" matches "Ile Diable" (
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It would make more sense if this stuff was in separate articles, one dealing with the island and the other with the prison set-up.
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I disagree as well. This article is about the penal colony. The prison on Devils Island was the smallest part of the colony.
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heard of any tourists clamoring to go there to see a museum ,and learn of the island's dark past-but that's a possibility.
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for the whole. In fact it would make more sense to rename this article "Cayenne penitentiary", or "Cayenne penal colony".
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If there are no objections I will split the island stuff into a separate article, and focus this one on the penal colony.
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As such, I think this section should be renamed - - - possibly as "Famous/infamous prisoners".
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article indicates that he contracted smallpox during the Franco-Prussian War but the
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He was not condemned because of his ideas but because he committed criminal actions.
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I'm still searching for information on whoever owns the infamous island now.
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OK, but are you disputing that he was an anarchist? He didn't.
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France
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