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624:- "China" is the title of the country article, so logically we should have "Demographics of China". "Demographics of the People's Republic of China" could be potentially confusing to the reader (...are China and the People's Republic of China different countries? if not, why different names? etc...).
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The 'pro camp' made no such promises in either the ROC move request or the PRC move request. Individual editors may have done so on their own behalf, and are free to change their mind as new evidence is presented. This point is effectively 'sour grapes' and has nothing to do with the move request
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The term simply isn't used on
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Quote article "According to the 2000 census, the TFR was 1.85 (0.86 for cities, 1.08 for towns and 1.43 for villages/outposts)." How can this be? 0.86, 1.08, and 1.43 cannot make a total of 1.85.
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The proposal is to...create a double redirect? I don't really think this redirect should exist at all, there's nothing it can really redirect to.
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