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Right. Too much detail is still front loaded in the preamble, which should concentrate more on the point that it's a multiplexer. Of course, one may also say the whole point to having a DSLAM is to use old telephone wires for new services. Both points should be mentioned in the preamble while most
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A DSLAM is a Point-to-Multipoint device. It can be thought of as a massive Switch. It strength lies in it's ability to download/upload high bandwidth content to each ADSL modem, connected to it's ports, over twisted pair copper. DSLAM sizes vary between eight and 1000 ports. The eight port uses RJ-45
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All right, finally to the constructive part. Yes, DSLAM creates a large LAN, wider than
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Another bit of carping: Eh? You propose to leave out the "S" from DSL and DSLAM? And the "M"? But, subscribers are what it's about. They're the ones paying for it all. They want something, namely
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Excellent. Well, before getting to the good part, let's have some moaning and carping. Editors shouldn't be anonymous; we should use four tildes to sign our work with our Wiki account so we can look in each others personal page and other works and see what our colleague is about. My personal
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The above statement is confusing. What modem? The Dslam collects all the Adsl modem signals and then multiplexis this data on a single Gigabit link usually fiber. Multiple Dslams are connected via Fiber at the Central Office,but the Central office itself has got nothing to do with Dslams?
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