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very close to what is now called "binge drinking" which gets lumped into alcoholism. The list of "dispomaniacs" should be deleted unless someone has direct references describing these people as dipsomaniacs as opposed to alcoholics. There is no mention of dipsomania on the NIAAA website for what that is worth.
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