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fizzy juice. That's what most
English speakers understand by the term, I would say. I know the British Soft Drinks Association include retail of bottled water in their remit but surely that is more of a commercial convenience as bottled water is to be found sold alongside carbonated beverages. I may be wrong but I would have said the definition of soft drink was to do with CO2 and some form of sweetener.
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England, and having read the entry on the Greek frappe, I don't believe it's ever a hot drink (although, I have no idea if or how Starbucks and the like may be
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I have heard both of these uses on many occasions; they seemed completely familiar to me when I read them in this article. I can't say when I first or last heard them, but I'd say probably throughout my life of 58 years. I have always lived in the northern United States: Michigan, New
England, and
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That's funny, because clicking on the soft drink article, we see that "A soft drink (also called soda, pop, soda pop, or carbonated beverage) is a non-alcoholic beverage that typically contains carbonated water, a sweetening agent, and a flavoring agent." That's exactly what I thought! Soft drink =
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are planning to have a go at this article and trying to make it a bit broader than a list of types of drinks. If anyone has any good references that they feel would be useful when describing the term 'drink' (or, as discussed on the talk page 'beverage'); we would much appreciate it! Also, please
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Again, I am incredulous at this statement. As far as I'm concerned a non-alcoholic drink is a drink that doesn't contain alcohol. I've never thought to define the term any other way. A drink that usually contains alcohol I would perhaps describe as 'reduced alcohol', 'low-alcohol', or possibly
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I concur wrt making a list of drinks. I wanted to check on claims that milk and tea were two of the most popular drinks in the world, but wikipedia doesn't appear to have the information anywhere. There are ordered lists for bridges, buildings, cities, etc so why not drinks? Instead of this
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English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature." There is a preference for the noun over the verb. The least
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Not too sure where to put this, but are suicides not big enough for at least a note? If it's jsut that only the few people I know drink them, pardon my question. (And by suicide, I mean a drink amde up of others, such as one made of Coke, Sprite, and 7-UP mixed into one container. NOT the
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I have already extended the page on non-alcoholic drinks to include all the available articles I can find on n.a. drinks. I considered this to be a really useful reference for anyone looking to gather info. about drinks for those who doesn't take alcohol.
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Where on Earth do people call the Ocean a drink? or Where do people "DRINK in the atmosphere" TAKE IN perhaps. When terms like this are used we should indicate WHERE they are supposedly used, therefore we can find out if this is actually accurate.
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article trying to describe individual drinks we would have classes of drinks here and would then let people read the descriptions from the individual pages for each of the drinks instead of repeating information already held elsewhere.
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using the term frappe nowadays). 2) Iced coffee is not a hot drink. 3) Teas, in addition to being drunk hot are commonly served iced. (And, in my experience, they can also be served at room temperature, e.g., unchilled "sun tea").
256:. I have expanded it as far as possible buit am trying to clarify if that page is only supposed to be for reduced / low-alcohol or drinks that normally contain alcohol. I don't think it should be but need some clarification.
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is after all a list of Wiki pages, not of drinks. And there's no attempt to distinguish between brands and traditional concotions, which is really important in my view. Any thoughts about any of this? Thanks for any advice.
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Knowledge (XXG) was cited in,
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May not be common, wait, yes it is it's listed at evry McDonald's I've been to and every other resturant I've been to. Nevertheless, i support the reason stated for the move.--
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The ocean is not called A drink, but THE drink. To fall into the drink, to fall off a boat, into the ocean. They're just idioms, for Christ's sake, don't be a prick.
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357:- the wording is "To support this assertion, the Department submits the following definitions of “beverage” as found in various dictionaries and similar sources".
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