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I've noticed that other LOTR articles have a section on how various characters are portrayed differently in the films then the books. This article might also benefit from one. One diff, for example, is the fact that, in the book, the ents decide to attack
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In the paragraph "The Last March of the Ents", there is a reference to MacBeth. "MacBeth" can mean a large number of things and the article does not explain which MacBeth
Tolkien talked about. The word is linked, and the link leads to a play of Shakespeare. I am not at all sure this is the MacBeth
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This is explained in the etymology section. I completely missed it myself, and was complaining about it before I noticed it. I am adding a link from "traditional ent" to the etymology section to make it more clear (since at least two users have now apparently suffered from selective blindness in
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Tolkien must have had many different sources of inspiration for the Ents, though perhaps it would be better to use both of examples of "sentient trees" (and Shakespeare's MacBeth scene as a contributor to the
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has references showing the completed manuscript for the complete work in 1946, and final revisions in 1949, both were before the first third was published in 1950. Consequently, claiming that he had no concept of the Ents seems incorrect. I would have stripped it out, but added a
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Tolkien's Ents are overwhelmingly what people think about when they hear Ent today. According to standard disambiguation procedures, the article on
Tolkien's Ents should be what people get when they go to an article of that name. Actually, I'd prefer to see
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This article is of poor quality. It states what an ent is and than it says it's very different from a traditional ent?! what is a traditional ent and what kind of ent did I just read a description of? --
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