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pre-convertion histories). Since we never turned-off es.wiki after the fork its database is a bit different than the one you left and has been slowly improving. Now since the software has been upgraded it is rapidly improving. This is exactly what I feared would happen. Now there are definitely two separate databases and this makes it harder for future reunification.
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Network costs will be lower overall this way since bytes are cheaper in bulk. Hard drive space is very cheap so that isn't an important consideration. Also since the biggest internet network "pipes" are located in the US this is the best place to have any server (or so the developers tell me). Since
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We had no intention of just letting es.wiki languish while we waited for your project to return. I tried very hard but the
Retorno a Knowledge (XXG) vote ended most reunification efforts on our end. We can't have a loosely-associated external Knowledge (XXG) and we also can not have a dead Spanish
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This information as to why the split occured is important, perhaps the most important, part of the article yet it is missing. What do we expect to learn in the future from this incident if most of it is shrouded in mystery? If someone knows what happened, add it to the page. I do not know what
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It should still be possible to port over your articles (and maybe even their histories) to our database but this would be limited to page titles that do not yet exist in our database (that is; only articles that EL has and es.wiki does not have). All the other articles would have to be merged by
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I tried to delay it but es.wiki has been revived with a software upgrade. We also decided to use the old database to avoid the conversion problems that occurred with your database during your Phase II conversion (excess space inbetween paragraphs and in tables and also the loss of most of the
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Enciclopedia Libre, want to change the server (or the name) of the spanish wikipedia , but Wikimedia Foundation set if we change te server of the es.wikipedia have to stop being wikipedia, because are not supported by Wikimedia Foundation 2. Another users want to merge the
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I agree with an earlier poster who asked this all-important question, which the article completely avoids. Why did so many
Spanish-speaking Wikipedians feel so strongly about Knowledge (XXG) that they felt it necessary to split from it? What were the reasons given for the split?
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and this will make a merger difficult. I just wish I could convince your project that we would never let Jimbo or anybody else do anything to harm it and that there are many loud voices calling for interlanguage fairness and harmony (Jimbo and Larry are two of these voices).
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I edited this from a wikilink into an external link. My understanding is that some sites are using dumps of
Knowledge (XXG) that don't include the User: namespace, so linking a user page from an article is a bad idea. Correct me if I'm wrong about this.
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Durante el mes de enero de 2007, su web estuvo caída durante varias semanas (del 5 al 26 de enero). Después de este suceso se restringió el acceso a la enciclopedia a usuarios registrados, impidiendo tanto la edición como la lectura a los usuarios
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Time was a critical factor for the reunification effort because of the impending upgrade to es.wiki. Since your project's vote decided the issue for at least the short-term we went ahead and upgraded es.wiki, however.
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Be careful about this entry. It's better to first provide links to discussion on meta, etc., than to just summarize a contentious self-referential topic as the relationship between
Knowledge (XXG) and Enciclopedia
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It is a temporary measure to avoid certain attacks. It will be lifted after the current conversion to 1.9.1 (including handling of utf-8) succeeds. Fix the article if you like, I don't think its worth mentioning.
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