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311:"Fermi learned tensor calculus, a mathematical instrument invented by Gregorio Ricci and Tullio Levi-Civita, and needed to demonstrate the principles of general relativity" This could be read as "Fermi learned tensor calculus ... and needed to demonstrate the principles of general relativity" or as "a mathematical instrument ... needed to demonstrate the principles of general relativity". I assume the second one is meant. Maybe rewrite as "Fermi learned tensor calculus, a mathematical instrument invented by Gregorio Ricci and Tullio Levi-Civita that was needed to demonstrate the principles of general relativity"? 356: 1188: 1163: 1130: 1078: 1055: 1034: 1013: 981: 952: 931: 873: 851: 42: 791:. This a low-quality, fairly low-resolution image of a work relevant to the biography, and shouldn't infringe on commercial opportunities for the work. But you're more knowledgeable about this than I; I leave it to your discretion. Simply removing the image is okay with me, too, as the article's already well illustrated. -- 556:"an igneous experiment" -- I assume ingenious was meant here (unless he experimented somehow with the rocks?), but I tentatively removed it for now since it seems like a minor bit of editorializing anyway. (Probably not undue editorializing, but just not needed). If you disagree, though, feel free to revert. 241:
More comments. I'm doing a bit of copyediting as I go, so please doublecheck me and make sure I'm not introducing new errors or changing the meaning. I won't be offended by any reverting. Broadly speaking, I would suggest that you do a top-to-bottom copyedit of this article in addition to mine; I'm
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They've got a Geiger counter set up, so when the count shot up they knew that there were additional radioactive elements present. This was correct; but the radioactive elements detected were not neptunium and plutonium but mostly Caesium, Xenon and Iodine. That's not to say that he hadn't made any
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Dropped the sentence, but changed the first to say that Fermi was both a theoretical and experimental physicist. The combination is quite rare. Oppenheimer was terrible in the lab, lab workers would run for cover whenever Rabi entered, and it was said that Pauli could ruin an experiment just by
416:"which is all to the good because the first effect of an explosion of such a dreadful mount of energy would be to smash into smithereens the physicist who had the misfortune to find a way to do it" -- not a GA action point, just wanted to comment that that is a terrific quotation. 721:
does not appear to have a public domain tag for the US; I'm always shaky on this, but I think a 1930s photograph without a clear source would not automatically be public domain. I'm sure a fair use rationale could be written, though, given the importance of the photograph.
715:"(On the Quantisation of the Perfect Monoatomic Gas)" -- Sometimes you follow Italian capitalization style in the English translations; here it appears to be English-style. I don't have a preference, but I'd suggest making these consistent. Not an issue for GA, though. 694:
This looks really solid to me so far--great work on an important figure. Take a look at the above; once you've had a chance to respond to those, I'll give the article a second read, go through the criteria checklist, and hopefully close this out. Thanks! --
636:"which are still in print." -- the source for this dates to 2001; can another source be found to verify that they're still in print now? Or perhaps just add "as of 2001 were still in print" or "were still in print x decades after his death". 281:" -- should this be "to be fission products"? You should give a readthrough of the lead from beginning to end, as it seems to have several clear copyediting problems. I'm fixing some as I go but I'm not 100% on the science to correct others. 305:
This isn't an issue for the GA review, but you might consider reformatting the sections a bit; right now, the entire article text falls in sections 1. and 2. My suggestion would be to change the level-3 headers under "biography" to level-2
539:"a pile of bricks with uranium oxide blocks surrounded by graphite bricks" -- this seems a little redundant, and mildly confusing. Would it be correct to just shorten it to "a pile of uranium oxide blocks surrounded by graphite bricks"? 209:; I'm not sure the sentence is needed at all, but if it is, I'd at least suggest giving a clearer citation for this later in the article. (The Snow quote praises him, but it's not clear that Snow alone represents "widely regarded".) -- 165:
I'll be glad to take this review. In the next few days, I'll start with a close readthrough, noting any issues here I can't easily fix myself, and then go to the criteria checklist. Thanks in advance for your work on this one! --
205:"Fermi is widely regarded as one of the leading scientists of the 20th century, highly accomplished in both theory and experiment." --Though clearly true, this also seems like a small bit of 972:, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). 674:"Compton, Arthur (1956). Atomic Quest. New York: Oxford University Press." -- this is not at all something to worry about for GA, but seems to be the only book on the list without ISBN 181:
Whoops, was just starting a copyedit without realizing you were working on it, too--sorry if I edit-conflicted you. Take your time and I'll take a look tomorrow morn/afternoon. Cheers,
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a reliable source for the quotation? I realize a photograph is also provided, but the tombstone epitaph seems like a minor enough inclusion that I wonder if this might just be cut.
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Cut. In fact, I have reliable sources for the inscription. What I need this source for is the cemetery location, which I haven't been able to find elsewhere.
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If it is considered an artwork, then there is no freedom of panorama in Italy, so it would still be copyrighted unless it dates to before 1976.
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encountering a fair number of typos, missing words, missing spaces, excess punctuation, etc., and it's likely that I won't catch everything.
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Yeah, it doesn't have one. But it's not the only one; the official history (Jones) doesn't have one either.
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This looks very close to ready. Let me go through the checklist to see if I'm missing anything.
575:"He wrote a paper "On the Origin of Cosmic radiation"" -- should radiation be capitalized here? 478:" they concluded that they had created new elements" -- what results led them to conclude this? 939:. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with 796: 756: 700: 521: 504: 214: 186: 171: 150: 115: 17: 866:
Prose is good, and spotchecks against Rhodes and Segre show no evidence of copyright issues.
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Hmmm. I hadn't thought of it that way. Perhaps a fair use tag could be added on the model of
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I've corrected the rationale. It's not a problem at all. I've added a US tag. However
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No. Already been corrected. In Italian you just capitalise the first word.
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has it capitalized, but I don't know the conventions for Italian academia.
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All the above fixes look great. Thanks for your fast responses. --
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Great, thanks. What concerns you about the second one? --
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One initial comment I want to note before I forget--
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