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662:, thanks for your comments. My plan is to complete this stage of the review and I'll probably then put the review "On Hold" whilst the problems are fixed. If I ask for something to be fixed that can't be fixed due to (say) lack of references. Put a comment directly under mine stating the problems. We can discuss it and possibly come to some agreement. In the worst case, if there is no reference for something that needs a reference (see 644:
added just days ago; perhaps they should be moved to a separate section. Adding dates to the 1810–1829 should prove easy (Cambalachero might be able to help with the phrases quoting Norberto Galasso's books), but solving the issues with the "Colonial economy" section might be harder, because relatively little has been written about Argentina's economy during that period, and much of it is not freely available on the internet.--
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Hi Pyrotec, and thank you for taking the time to review this article. I agree with most of your comments so far, and in particular with your criticism of the lead. Large swathes of this section, namely the parts outlining the opinions of different scholars on the causes of Argentina's troubles, were
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Present-day Argentina, unlike Mexico or Peru, did not become an important centre of the Spanish colonial economy because it had fewer economic advantages. There were no deposits of gold or other precious metals (even though the name Argentina means 'land of silver') nor established native
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section, most of that was stating what Argentina was not. I would have expected an encyclopaedia, and that is what wikipedia is, to state what a "thing" is, not what a "thing" is not. On that basis, not not going to "quick fail" this article: I will review it.
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I think that this article could make GA-status this time time. On the plus side, it appears to be comprehensive (its long); it's well illustrated and well referenced. On the minus side, I don't believe that the
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I have added a few dates to this section. There is a bit of overlap between the rule of Artigas and the Supreme Director so it's hard to tell when one began and the other ended without access to the source.--
887:) - The first three paragraphs aught to be re-written. I see this as a problem of poor grammar: they mostly state what Argentina "was not". Part of the first paragraph could be rewritten (for example) as: 224:
I'm quite happy for the nominator and/or other editors to post comments, questions, etc. If they relate to a particular section of the review, I'm happy for them to immediately follow my comments.
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At this stage I'm putting the review On Hold. I'm willing to respond to any or all of these points (it helps if specific comments are place below the point in the review where I have made them).
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Note: if these sources are important (not my decision to make), they should appear in the body of the article and depending on their relative importance, appear in the Lead in summarised form.
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civilizations to subject to the encomienda. Only two-thirds of present Argentina was occupied: almost one third of the consisted of the Patagonian Plateau, which was unoccupied during ......
292:) - I think that "time" needs to be added to the first paragraph. This could be done with minimal effort in the first sentence of the first paragraph by, adding for example, "With 126: 351:
The period under analysis in that paragraph is "between independence and the golden age", so it covers the wider 1810-70 period. I moved it out of the subsection accordingly.--
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I moved most of the 'teasing' material to a new section (causes of progressive decline), and restored an earlier version of the lead.--
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The first paragraph is a single-sentence paragraph, but it reads like an lecture, as do the third, fourth and fifth paragraphs.
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I deleted the unsourced claims, and removed the 'says who' tag as the word 'notorious' appears in the original source.--
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merchants came to an end.". The same could be done for "The first government" and the first and second Triumvirates.
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The definition of 'tablita' and a link to the appropriate article for 'heterodox package' have been added.--
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Congratulations on a fine article. I suspect that with a bit more work this article could possibly make
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I'm not insisting that it is done this way. I don't regard the current text as "well written" as per
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The term/phrase "Argentine paradox" used in the first paragraph appears nowhere else in the article.
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Something was indeed missing: the peso replaced the austral in 1992. This has been corrected.--
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until last and I will do the same here. However, in this review I'm going to start at the
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and this is one way of reusing the existing text and citations to improved readability.
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As this is a long article, this part of the review is likely to take me several days.
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I'm now start a full review of this article, section by section. I normally leave the
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This article has been much improved, so I'm pleased to be able to award it GA status.
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An interesting and informative article on the Economic history of Argentina
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cluase 2(b)) it might be necessary to remove the statement (or reword it).
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is compliant (in addition, its not easy to read); and I don't like the
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Di Tella used in the third and fourth paragraph appears nowhere else.
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B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with
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an era in which commerce was controlled by a small group of
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I have made a few changes to the wording in this section.--
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A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have
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This article has been sitting around for a long time at
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Placemarker - provinces to be added later, or removed).
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